Grant Williams Thread

[Parliament10]

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Wow. Steph really did that, huh?
We need to beat them down, in the Finals.


Keep it on the Basketbal Floor.
Too bad that we have to wait a whole year.

I have no issue with that, especially after Grant ran his mouth.

Dray needs to pipe down, though.

Yeah. Grant shouldn't have ran his mouth. It should be settled on the floor.
This is definitely a Learning Experience.

[31to6]

Not really interested in Grant being a sideshow guy. He’s writing checks the better players on the team will have to cash. If he’s as smart as he’s supposed to be he should understand the value of staying in his lane.

[London2Boston]

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Wow. Steph really did that, huh?
We need to beat them down, in the Finals.


Keep it on the Basketbal Floor.
Too bad that we have to wait a whole year.

Grant made the stupid comment first tbf. Found Draymond saying he stole Jaylen’s heart more cringe really considering Jaylen was one of the few that literally didn’t crumble, but whatever. When you win you can run your mouth all you want.

[djFan71]

Sometimes the truth can set you free but this still keeps my spirit locked up. I'm still upset b/c I agree, but he doesn't have to keep rubbing salt in my heart!

I know people will always say the better team won, but I feel the more experienced team won, if that is better then it means we will never beat them b/c our experience will never meet theirs. I'm not even sure Draymond believes the better team won, but I can't listen to his pod until we beat them, I just see small things that make me think he doesn't!

Draymond is higher on the Celtics than a fair amount of this board tbh lol.

He and the rest of the warriors just knew we weren’t ready, and absolutely feasted on the mental aspect. As boring as the answer is, that’s the case with young teams throughout nba history.

Our starters played them even, and our bench **** the bed. Oh, and a Larry Bird-caliber superstar had the signature game of his entire career when his team needed it most.

I find the notion that we somehow got shook because of Dray kind of insulting. Not a chance. We grinded as always, but they were a slightly better, slightly deeper, and slightly healthier team with a slightly better superstar. Despite the regular season stats that didn't;t account for their injuries, they were better defensively as well. Simple as that.

In the end, talking about a banged up Celts team that had a losing record at midseason vs a Warriors team that didn't even crack the top 5 in the Curry Era. Were probably half a dozen other teams that could have been in their places with the same breaks.

People somehow forget the bolded. They had the best player, got better bench play and won. Pretty straightforward.

[Shak_Celts]

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Ws were not only the better team, they were the pettier team too.

Prettier? Nah. Curry looks like a kid, I'd say a cutie patootie tho! Dray, he's a rich multi-champ with a face his mother loves. Klay is mid. Wiggins? No comment. Looney?

The only really "off" look we have is a dude, I don't want to name, who has a head like Megamind.

You must be a true Bostonian - dropping Rs left and right, then making up for it by seeing them in places they legitimately are not.

Yoooooooooooo! I definitely saw it!! As much as I use petty!!! Damn!! I need serious help!!

[JF5]

Magic fan coming in peace, lol... I like Grant Williams he's a guy that has all the intangibles/good defensive mind and player and is a guy who is a floor raiser when it comes to toughness.

That being said the Magic have Jonathan Issac. While injury prone, is probably one of the best defensive players in the league when he's actually healthy. Obviously with this team going the Banchero route at the 4. I can't see Issac fitting into the Magic future plans as he's clearly a starting player in this league.

But for a team like Boston he makes a crap ton of sense given that Al Horford is essentially close to the end of the line when it comes to his career, and Issac would fit and maybe exceed that role that Horford had (Obviously if he can stay healthy). Also, with Grant he seems more of 6th Man/Role player which the Magic would be able to balance out with Wendell Carter/Paolo Banchero going into the future.

I was thinking

Orlando:
Issac (Defensive Stud that Replaces Horford) + Ross (Veteran Presence + Shooting)

for

Boston:
Horford (Last Year remaining left for the Magic so it does hurt going forward and likely to go back to BOS after being waived) + Williams (6th Man/Role Player that Compliments Banchero + Carter Jr.)

Magic waive Horford... He clears waivers and he goes back to Boston.

[BK_2020]

Can’t play defense from the hospital bed.


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[zoyathedestroya]

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Will one of these teams have enough interest in Grant that we'd be priced out? (Just in case he doesn't sign or get offered an extension.)

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Magic fan coming in peace, lol... I like Grant Williams he's a guy that has all the intangibles/good defensive mind and player and is a guy who is a floor raiser when it comes to toughness.

That being said the Magic have Jonathan Issac. While injury prone, is probably one of the best defensive players in the league when he's actually healthy. Obviously with this team going the Banchero route at the 4. I can't see Issac fitting into the Magic future plans as he's clearly a starting player in this league.

But for a team like Boston he makes a crap ton of sense given that Al Horford is essentially close to the end of the line when it comes to his career, and Issac would fit and maybe exceed that role that Horford had (Obviously if he can stay healthy). Also, with Grant he seems more of 6th Man/Role player which the Magic would be able to balance out with Wendell Carter/Paolo Banchero going into the future.

I was thinking

Orlando:
Issac (Defensive Stud that Replaces Horford) + Ross (Veteran Presence + Shooting)

for

Boston:
Horford (Last Year remaining left for the Magic so it does hurt going forward and likely to go back to BOS after being waived) + Williams (6th Man/Role Player that Compliments Banchero + Carter Jr.)

Magic waive Horford... He clears waivers and he goes back to Boston.

Two starters on a Finals team, it's a total non-starter.

I could see the Celtics being interested in Isaac but they would probably land in the "pursue him in FA with an exception" type of place.

[Captain_Caveman]

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Will one of these teams have enough interest in Grant that we'd be priced out? (Just in case he doesn't sign or get offered an extension.)

Not altogether updated or complete, but here's the list of 2023 FAs by team.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32049869/nba-free-agents-team-team-lists-2022-2023

[playa-hater]

Magic fan coming in peace, lol... I like Grant Williams he's a guy that has all the intangibles/good defensive mind and player and is a guy who is a floor raiser when it comes to toughness.

That being said the Magic have Jonathan Issac. While injury prone, is probably one of the best defensive players in the league when he's actually healthy. Obviously with this team going the Banchero route at the 4. I can't see Issac fitting into the Magic future plans as he's clearly a starting player in this league.

But for a team like Boston he makes a crap ton of sense given that Al Horford is essentially close to the end of the line when it comes to his career, and Issac would fit and maybe exceed that role that Horford had (Obviously if he can stay healthy). Also, with Grant he seems more of 6th Man/Role player which the Magic would be able to balance out with Wendell Carter/Paolo Banchero going into the future.

I was thinking

Orlando:
Issac (Defensive Stud that Replaces Horford) + Ross (Veteran Presence + Shooting)

for

Boston:
Horford (Last Year remaining left for the Magic so it does hurt going forward and likely to go back to BOS after being waived) + Williams (6th Man/Role Player that Compliments Banchero + Carter Jr.)

Magic waive Horford... He clears waivers and he goes back to Boston.

Two starters on a Finals team, it's a total non-starter.

I could see the Celtics being interested in Isaac but they would probably land in the "pursue him in FA with an exception" type of place.

Not Robert Williams he said Grant williams and I would consider that if there was a way to guarantee Isaac being fully healthy but I don't know if that's possible

[themoneyteam2]

Can’t play defense from the hospital bed.


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Assuming this is a joke if you think Grant can’t play defense?

[zoyathedestroya]

Can’t play defense from the hospital bed.


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Assuming this is a joke if you think Grant can’t play defense?

BK might have been referring to Jonathan Isaac (see trade proposal above his post).

[31to6]

Magic fan coming in peace, lol... I like Grant Williams he's a guy that has all the intangibles/good defensive mind and player and is a guy who is a floor raiser when it comes to toughness.

That being said the Magic have Jonathan Issac. While injury prone, is probably one of the best defensive players in the league when he's actually healthy. Obviously with this team going the Banchero route at the 4. I can't see Issac fitting into the Magic future plans as he's clearly a starting player in this league.

But for a team like Boston he makes a crap ton of sense given that Al Horford is essentially close to the end of the line when it comes to his career, and Issac would fit and maybe exceed that role that Horford had (Obviously if he can stay healthy). Also, with Grant he seems more of 6th Man/Role player which the Magic would be able to balance out with Wendell Carter/Paolo Banchero going into the future.

I was thinking

Orlando:
Issac (Defensive Stud that Replaces Horford) + Ross (Veteran Presence + Shooting)

for

Boston:
Horford (Last Year remaining left for the Magic so it does hurt going forward and likely to go back to BOS after being waived) + Williams (6th Man/Role Player that Compliments Banchero + Carter Jr.)

Magic waive Horford... He clears waivers and he goes back to Boston.

1. You can’t trade a guy and resign him within a year — NBA made a rule prohibiting that after we did that with old Gary Payton

2. Terrence Ross is one of the worst players in the NBA (I know he gets hot every once in awhile)

3. I’d trade Grant for a healthy Isaac, but I’m not sure that a healthy Isaac exists so sorry, no interest in this

[steefP2]

Love the idea of isaacs, has to show it first before messing with a contender. Horford still too import for our upcoming title bid. Not to mention I don’t want isaacs conspiracy brain in this lockerroom

[jmr07019]

How much improvement do you expect from Grant? He will be 24 next season going into a contract year? Can he become a starter level player?

I want to see Grant be a more consistent offensive player. 9 of 24 playoff games he scored 6 or less. He’s looked decent driving close outs. I’m hoping to see him expand his game aim this area.

I know he boxes out a lot but less than 4 rpg for a starter is also pretty low. He’s a smaller guy without big hops so I’m not too optimistic about his rebounding numbers improving.

Despite the criticisms Grant can definitely become a starter on this team. Seems like a harder worker I wouldn’t be surprised if we see Grant take another step forward in his development.

[zoyathedestroya]

No other context, clarification, explanation needed. Grant is GOAT status in Celtics lore. Also untouchable.

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[brackdan70]

Magic fan coming in peace, lol... I like Grant Williams he's a guy that has all the intangibles/good defensive mind and player and is a guy who is a floor raiser when it comes to toughness.

That being said the Magic have Jonathan Issac. While injury prone, is probably one of the best defensive players in the league when he's actually healthy. Obviously with this team going the Banchero route at the 4. I can't see Issac fitting into the Magic future plans as he's clearly a starting player in this league.

But for a team like Boston he makes a crap ton of sense given that Al Horford is essentially close to the end of the line when it comes to his career, and Issac would fit and maybe exceed that role that Horford had (Obviously if he can stay healthy). Also, with Grant he seems more of 6th Man/Role player which the Magic would be able to balance out with Wendell Carter/Paolo Banchero going into the future.

I was thinking

Orlando:
Issac (Defensive Stud that Replaces Horford) + Ross (Veteran Presence + Shooting)

for

Boston:
Horford (Last Year remaining left for the Magic so it does hurt going forward and likely to go back to BOS after being waived) + Williams (6th Man/Role Player that Compliments Banchero + Carter Jr.)

Magic waive Horford... He clears waivers and he goes back to Boston.

1. You can’t trade a guy and resign him within a year — NBA made a rule prohibiting that after we did that with old Gary Payton

2. Terrence Ross is one of the worst players in the NBA (I know he gets hot every once in awhile)

3. I’d trade Grant for a healthy Isaac, but I’m not sure that a healthy Isaac exists so sorry, no interest in this

Agree. Isaac hasn’t played in 2 years. Going to need to see him be effective in several games first.
If Ross is included then I am not interested. A straight swap is something to consider if Isaac proves effective still.

[Bohemian]

Extend Grant already. 44/4 years seems fair.

[Parliament10]

Extend Grant already. 44/4 years seems fair.

Agreed. Extend him. -- I think that $10-13M/yr is fair.
I mean, Brogdon is coming off the Bench, and he's getting $22.6M. And that's with Injury concerns.