Ray joins the Heat/Ray Allen appreciation thread

FlatearthZorro · Post #441 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 5:56 pm

Rondo To KG wrote:^ What else could the Celtics possibly have done? Doc reportedly tried to smooth things over between him and Rondo and Ray wanted no part of it. Danny offered him twice the amount of money the Heat offered and a no-trade clause as well., and he still went to our worst enemies. Even worse, this all happened right after KG and Pierce played their hearts out in Miami back in June.

Also, why is the media making out the Ray trades like he was the only one on the trade block? Did everyone forget how Rondo nearly got traded every single summer up till this point? What about Pierce, who almost was traded for the Net's first round pick during the trade deadline? Rondo responded to the trades by having a near MVP season and a playoff run for the history books. Ray responded by skipping town and joining South Beach. It's funny how the so called immature player managed to suck it up and play while the veteran couldn't.

It's also funny how over the years Ray was made out to be a consummate professional who was unselfish and would do anything to win. Now its becoming clear that he may have had the biggest ego on our team. He couldn't handle being benched by Bradley, even though his bone spurs limited him so much that he shot 19% from three and 60% from the free throw line. He couldn't handle that Rondo was emerging start and he couldn't handle that he was the only member of the Big 3 willing to put trust in this young player.

There's absolutely no way I cheer for this guy when he takes that first step back into the Garden. He took the concept of Ubuntu and threw it out the window to join LeBron and Wade and proved that he was a phony the entire time. He never was the unselfish player that Pierce and KG were and he'll never see his jersey # hanging from the rafters with the rest of the Big 3. Good riddance.

Great post.. I'll just add how fake and phoney Ray was, talking bout brotherhood, and the C's being his family(he said he finally found home)...

Then he leaves for less cash to join our arch rivals.. Talk bout jealous egomaniacs..

BlameTheRefs · Post #442 » by **BlameTheRefs** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 5:59 pm

return2glory wrote:I hear a lot of fans saying screw you Ray. Really? Why?

You can't fault Ray from leaving the Celtics. Ray Allen was not wanted in Boston anymore, not as much as he was wanted in Miami. You go where you are wanted and appreciated more, that's human nature.

Ray Allen was nearly traded. Ainge messed up by not going through with the trade because Ray' pride was already hurt. Ray gave everything he had to the Celtics while he was here. Even in the playoffs last season, Ray gave it his all. He played hurt while he was playing on an expiring contract.

People talk about Karma, well the Celtics tried to trade Ray and Ainge didn't pull the trigger and never smoothed things out with Ray. Now Ray is gone, but on his terms. Whatever you want to say, the bottom line is Ray Allen is somewhere where he is wanted more. If the Celtics wanted Ray, Wyc, Ainge, Doc, KG, Pierce, Rondo, Jeff Green, Brandon Bass would have gotten on a plane to Miami and told Ray we are here for you and want you to be a part of this team. That would have gotten Ray back in Boston. That didn't happen. Good for Ray. I would have done the same thing.

Nobody is mad that Ray decided to leave the Celtics. People are mad that he joined the enemy. If you can't see a problem with that, well... that's a shame.

BlameTheRefs · Post #443 » by **BlameTheRefs** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:03 pm

Vampire Diaries wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Can we sign Jarret Jack? He seems to get it.

https://twitter.com/Jarrettjack03/statu ... 6673820673

Am I wrong for thinking ray allen is a traitor for signing with his rival team the heat? Tell me what u think!!!!!!

Rondo treating him like dog $hit, your front office tried to trade him, and your coach benched him for avery freakin bradley. YOU are the ones that aren't loyal to him! That wasn't the team he was drafted by, and he was only there for 5 seasons, the 5th of which being the one you benched him. It's your teams fault for mis-treating him. Now quit being a bunch of b1tches and take last years and this next 4-5 years of beatings you will receive from us like a man.

Go back to your board bandwagon troll

Post #444 » by **Darth Celtic** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:11 pm

return2glory wrote:I hear a lot of fans saying screw you Ray. Really? Why?

You can't fault Ray from leaving the Celtics. Ray Allen was not wanted in Boston anymore, not as much as he was wanted in Miami. You go where you are wanted and appreciated more, that's human nature.

you lost me here, no point in reading further. Miami wanted him so much more that they offered half as much for same amount of years without a no trade clause to a 37 year old coming off ankle surgery 2nd time in 3 years.

offered 3 years, 6m a year, no trade cluase to 37 year old with bad ankles, yet he was not wanted in boston.

RajonRondo9dime · Post #445 » by **RajonRondo9dime** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:15 pm

Ray was not wanted in Boston...

Well, a 2 year, 12 million dollar contract offer w a no trade clause disagrees with you, return2glory.

Now PISS OFF

Post #446 » by **Darth Celtic** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:23 pm

RajonRondo9dime wrote:
Now PISS OFF

ok, not sure why would say that now, this is message board for opinions.

daniel3 · Post #447 » by **daniel3** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:27 pm

BlameTheRefs wrote:Nobody is mad that Ray decided to leave the Celtics. People are mad that he joined the enemy. If you can't see a problem with that, well... that's a shame.

Heat aren't anyone's enemies. They're a nice bunch imho.

chrisab123 · Post #448 » by **chrisab123** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:30 pm

The Heat are the New World Order of professional sports...a bunch of mercenaries selling their souls to Pat Riley. It sickens me that "Hollywood" Ray Allen, and his cronies LeBron and Wade and Bosh come together and just to chase rings. This isn't as bad as Damon going to the Yankees, but I put a hole through my wall last night, watching the updates as I was lurking on this site, so anyone who knows what spackle is the best...much appreciated!

PS: This team is still damn good, **** You Judas Shuttlesworth

chrisab123 · Post #449 » by **chrisab123** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:34 pm

daniel3 wrote:
BlameTheRefs wrote:Nobody is mad that Ray decided to leave the Celtics. People are mad that he joined the enemy. If you can't see a problem with that, well... that's a shame.

Heat aren't anyone's enemies. They're a nice bunch imho.

Wade comes off as the worlds biggest douche, so I'm not sure where you get that from.

Remember this gem from LeBron?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRtMHBdo8bY&feature=related[/youtube]

yep pure class!

RajonRondo9dime · Post #450 » by **RajonRondo9dime** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:36 pm

F you Ray!

pac213up · Post #451 » by **pac213up** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:42 pm

https://twitter.com/cbgrousbeck/statuse ... 4910743553

I guess he was "South Beach", after all. ‪#goodbye‬#20

RajonRondo9dime · Post #452 » by **RajonRondo9dime** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:45 pm

Ray Allen is a bitch ass

kampz · Post #453 » by **kampz** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:47 pm

Boston really shot themselves in the foot with the Garnett signing. They gave him waayyy to much. You just know he'll be in a suit sitting court side for a year being intense. Ray Allen just made it look worse.

I can't really blame Ray Allen for signing with the Heat. Actually, If I was him, I would of followed Steve Nash in LA. It's going to be a Lakers vs. Heat NBA finals, barring any serious injuries to any of the superstars on both teams. Unless Durant pulls one out of his ass. Which I guess is pretty plausible.

Ray Allen served the Boston Celtics great though. He was a class act.

chrisab123 · Post #454 » by **chrisab123** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:50 pm

kampz wrote:Boston really shot themselves in the foot with the Garnett signing. They gave him waayyy to much. You just know he'll be in a suit sitting court side for a year being intense. Ray Allen just made it look worse.

I can't really blame Ray Allen for signing with the Heat. Actually, If I was him, I would of followed Steve Nash in LA. It's going to be a Lakers vs. Heat NBA finals, barring any serious injuries to any of the superstars on both teams. Unless Durant pulls one out of his ass. Which I guess is pretty plausible.

Ray Allen served the Boston Celtics great though. He was a class act.

How does Garnett have anything to do with Ray? Bigs are worth more in the NBA, and KG would have easily gotten that deal on the open market, that's a fact.

JustinSane · Post #455 » by **JustinSane** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 6:59 pm

I'm a confused Pistons fan. When Ben Wallace signed with Chicago, in his prime, while Detroit was still a contender, there was not nearly this level of venom against him. And we (collectively) hate the Bulls, and have for 20 years.

Allen played his heart out for you guys for five years and you would not have a championship since Bird without him. For his service, his team attempted to trade him to Memphis.

And he's the disloyal one? This just does not make sense. A team (or fanbase) can't expect loyalty to be a one way street. You can't tell a man he's traded to Memphis and expect him to remain totally committed to your team until the day he retires. It just isn't fair. Do I hope anyone but Miami wins next season? Of course. Will I root for Ray Allen to do well individually? Yes. He is one of the classiest players in the NBA - still.

RajonRondo9dime · Post #456 » by **RajonRondo9dime** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:04 pm

JustinSane wrote:I'm a confused Pistons fan. When Ben Wallace signed with Chicago, in his prime, while Detroit was still a contender, there was not nearly this level of venom against him. And we (collectively) hate the Bulls, and have for 20 years.

Allen played his heart out for you guys for five years and you would not have a championship since Bird without him. For his service, his team attempted to trade him to Memphis.

And he's the disloyal one? This just does not make sense. A team (or fanbase) can't expect loyalty to be a one way street. You can't tell a man he's traded to Memphis and expect him to remain totally committed to your team until the day he retires. It just isn't fair. Do I hope anyone but Miami wins next season? Of course. Will I root for Ray Allen to do well individually? Yes. He is one of the classiest players in the NBA - still.

Shut the F up.

My god, you are annoying.

I don't understand the idiots who come here and tell us how to feel.

Also, LOL at comparing Ben f******* Wallace to Ray Allen.

Secondly, I doubt Ben Wallace took LESS money to leave.

Lastly, GET OUT OF HERE

FlatearthZorro · Post #457 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:05 pm

JustinSane wrote:I'm a confused Pistons fan. When Ben Wallace signed with Chicago, in his prime, while Detroit was still a contender, there was not nearly this level of venom against him. And we (collectively) hate the Bulls, and have for 20 years.

Allen played his heart out for you guys for five years and you would not have a championship since Bird without him. For his service, his team attempted to trade him to Memphis.

And he's the disloyal one? This just does not make sense. A team (or fanbase) can't expect loyalty to be a one way street. You can't tell a man he's traded to Memphis and expect him to remain totally committed to your team until the day he retires. It just isn't fair. Do I hope anyone but Miami wins next season? Of course. Will I root for Ray Allen to do well individually? Yes. He is one of the classiest players in the NBA - still.

Bro, please, next time u try to write ur opinion, read most of the articles on the subject u're writing about.. Ray got offered no-trade clause.. HE MIGHT'VE BEEN SHOPPED, BUT HE NEVER GOT TRADED, SO DROP THIS.. Him leaving for 9 mil/3 years, only proved Danny should have traded him.. Not to mention he tried to mock the organization by asking for 27 mil/3years to stay.. Please next time do ur homework, before posting..

P.S. Also he threw Doc under the bus, while Doc has never had anything bad to say about Allen and he's always raved about him being the ultimate teammate, which actually isn't true.

BillessuR6 · Post #458 » by **BillessuR6** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:17 pm

JustinSane · Post #459 » by **JustinSane** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:21 pm

RajonRondo9dime wrote:
Secondly, I doubt Ben Wallace took LESS money to leave.

Ben left for slightly (as a percentage) more money. Allen left for a better chance at winning and what he felt to be a better fit for him. Both are understandable motives. Attempting to trade someone, telling them they've been traded and the trade then falling through isn't something that can necessarily just be dropped. Evidently, Allen couldn't drop it. I'd guess that most athletes who achieve what he has are not wired to "just drop" things like that either. Honestly, how would Garnett have taken it if the same thing happened to him? Part of the psychological traits that make them great competitors would make it hard to get past their team trying to dump them.

I understand quite well that when they decided they needed him after all they tried to patch things up (no trade clause, better contract), but both Miami and Boston offered him as much as they could to sign, so you can't say Boston wanted him more just because the CBA allowed them to offer more. He might have felt that everyone in Miami wanted him on the team, players, fans, management and ownership, whereas in Boston they'd quite recently been trying to part ways with him.

I'd not known he'd "thrown Doc under the bus" though. If that's accurate, I'd have to revisit my high opinion of his character. What'd he say?

AKFO · Post #460 » by **AKFO** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:22 pm

“Well, it’s kind of like a rivalry. Yeah, it’s kind of ironic he went there,” said E’Twaun Moore. “Anything can happen. That’s one thing I’ve learned. Sometimes you have to make decisions that are best for yourself, and not everyone else. Sometimes you don’t know. That’s something about people who have composure and can keep things in. They just take care of business. I was surprised, though I really didn’t know what was going on with it,” he said. “I’m surprised he went to the Heat, but that’s a decision you have to make for yourself.”

Celtics assistant coach Tyron Lue, who is running the Celtics summer league team, admitted that he didn’t see this one coming. “I was shocked. I see Ray as a Celtic, but in this business you have to do what’s best for you,” said Lue. “So I have to wish him luck. But changing uniforms after being around here for so long is pretty big. “Ray’s a professional – comes ready to play every day with the same workout he’s been doing for the last 15 years,” he said. “He’s the ultimate professional. The young guys will miss him, but somebody else has to step up and take responsibility.”

Said Johnson: “I don’t know. One of the things you learn coming into the NBA is that it’s a business, and you have to do what’s best for you and your family. It’s going to be tough to see him in any uniform besides a Celtics uniform, but hopefully he does well, just not when he plays well. But we wish him the best.”

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