Tatum and Brown, as 1-2 Options

zoyathedestroya · Post #441 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:19 pm

zoyathedestroya · Post #442 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:26 pm

5InOfLouisville · Post #443 » by **5InOfLouisville** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:48 pm

As Brown continues to try and improve, we are going to continue to see growing pains. In my mind, where we see him fail the most is when he tries to do too much.

It is a fine line to walk, because on one hand, when he fails, it hurts the team. But on the other, the only way he gets better and adds to his repertoire is by trying to improve his deficiencies and adding new facets to his game. I think for the most part, he has done an admirable job.

But now, his growth is taking place in real games as opposed to over the off-season.

I'm not saying that he is going to succeed at everything he tries, but I like his effort.

Obviously, his D has to improve. But even then, I think it is often a function of him trying to do too much. If you are a wing trying to guard the entire floor, you end up guarding nobody.

I see this from Marcus Smart sometimes too. Late to recover, overhelping...and NO, lol, I am not saying JB is nearly as good a defender as Smart. Marcus is one of the best in the league. Im only saying that their failures are similar in origin. Again, marcus is in another league and JB has a LONG way to go so yall leave me alone

Jaqua92 · Post #444 » by **Jaqua92** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:29 pm

5InOfLouisville wrote:As Brown continues to try and improve, we are going to continue to see growing pains. In my mind, where we see him fail the most is when he tries to do too much.

It is a fine line to walk, because on one hand, when he fails, it hurts the team. But on the other, the only way he gets better and adds to his repertoire is by trying to improve his deficiencies and adding new facets to his game. I think for the most part, he has done an admirable job.

But now, his growth is taking place in real games as opposed to over the off-season.

I'm not saying that he is going to succeed at everything he tries, but I like his effort.

Obviously, his D has to improve. But even then, I think it is often a function of him trying to do too much. If you are a wing trying to guard the entire floor, you end up guarding nobody.

I see this from Marcus Smart sometimes too. Late to recover, overhelping...and NO, lol, I am not saying JB is nearly as good a defender as Smart. Marcus is one of the best in the league. Im only saying that their failures are similar in origin. Again, marcus is in another league and JB has a LONG way to go so yall leave me alone

Brown is still the better overall player

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5InOfLouisville · Post #445 » by **5InOfLouisville** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:37 pm

Jaqua92 wrote:
5InOfLouisville wrote:As Brown continues to try and improve, we are going to continue to see growing pains. In my mind, where we see him fail the most is when he tries to do too much.

It is a fine line to walk, because on one hand, when he fails, it hurts the team. But on the other, the only way he gets better and adds to his repertoire is by trying to improve his deficiencies and adding new facets to his game. I think for the most part, he has done an admirable job.

But now, his growth is taking place in real games as opposed to over the off-season.

I'm not saying that he is going to succeed at everything he tries, but I like his effort.

Obviously, his D has to improve. But even then, I think it is often a function of him trying to do too much. If you are a wing trying to guard the entire floor, you end up guarding nobody.

I see this from Marcus Smart sometimes too. Late to recover, overhelping...and NO, lol, I am not saying JB is nearly as good a defender as Smart. Marcus is one of the best in the league. Im only saying that their failures are similar in origin. Again, marcus is in another league and JB has a LONG way to go so yall leave me alone
Brown is still the better overall player

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I agree.

zoyathedestroya · Post #446 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:59 pm

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zoyathedestroya · Post #447 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:58 am

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Jingles · Post #448 » by **Jingles** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:33 pm

Crazy that they are both already this good but still show clear areas where they can improve even more.

zoyathedestroya · Post #449 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:12 pm

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sam_I_am · Post #450 » by **sam_I_am** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:36 pm

If Jaylen has been reading the thread about his contract....last night was a major FU to those who still claim it was a bad move by Ainge.

Joshyjess · Post #451 » by **Joshyjess** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:50 pm

So many people thought that the C's should have either traded Brown (for relatively nothing), or low-balled him on his contract - I hope those same people are feeling very foolish right now. Either one of these guys could be one of the best players on the majority of teams out there. You put them together, and they really do make up one of the best combos in the game today (not to mention how much better they will be in the future).

Post #452 » by **ParticleMan** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:21 pm

yeah we will have tatum locked up probably at the max next year, and JB will start his sub-max deal for another 4 years. that, mi amigos, is called a foundation.

zoyathedestroya · Post #453 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:10 pm

Against Detroit...
Jaylen Brown recorded the first 25-5-5 game of his career.
Jayson Tatum had his most efficient shooting night this season (58.8% FG%, 69.3% TS%).

31to6 · Post #454 » by **31to6** » Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:57 pm

Detroit sucks, no doubt. But I’m starting to think Jaylen might be the last guy named Brown to wear #7 for us.

sam_I_am · Post #455 » by **sam_I_am** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:37 pm

ParticleMan wrote:yeah we will have tatum locked up probably at the max next year, and JB will start his sub-max deal for another 4 years. that, mi amigos, is called a foundation.

No Smart, no Hayward, a deplete center roster to throw at Drummond and the two Js lead a rout in a game Kemba scores 1 point. Very impressive ..... it’s the kind of thing Simmons and Embiid have been doing.

cloverleaf · Post #456 » by **cloverleaf** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:01 pm

ParticleMan wrote:yeah we will have tatum locked up probably at the max next year, and JB will start his sub-max deal for another 4 years. that, mi amigos, is called a foundation.

Absolutely!

(Well done, Danny.)

If they stay healthy, Rob and Tacko could develop into a great defensive center rotation for decent money too.

cloverleaf · Post #457 » by **cloverleaf** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:04 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:yeah we will have tatum locked up probably at the max next year, and JB will start his sub-max deal for another 4 years. that, mi amigos, is called a foundation.

No Smart, no Hayward, a deplete center roster to throw at Drummond and the two Js lead a rout in a game Kemba scores 1 point. Very impressive ..... it’s the kind of thing Simmons and Embiid have been doing.

Detroit also a very poor team without more of their team, but yeah, still a good show from our side.

Jaqua92 · Post #458 » by **Jaqua92** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:15 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:yeah we will have tatum locked up probably at the max next year, and JB will start his sub-max deal for another 4 years. that, mi amigos, is called a foundation.

No Smart, no Hayward, a deplete center roster to throw at Drummond and the two Js lead a rout in a game Kemba scores 1 point. Very impressive ..... it’s the kind of thing Simmons and Embiid have been doing.

Against an 11-19 team. Simmons is an all star already and Embiid was an MVP candidate.

Tatum and Brown aren't yet ready to be the foundation pieces of a contender. Kemba and Hayward are still our best two players. Until these two guys surpass both of them, I'm not ready to say they are the foundation of this team's success yet.

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Homerclease · Post #459 » by **Homerclease** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:16 pm

Jaqua92 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:yeah we will have tatum locked up probably at the max next year, and JB will start his sub-max deal for another 4 years. that, mi amigos, is called a foundation.

No Smart, no Hayward, a deplete center roster to throw at Drummond and the two Js lead a rout in a game Kemba scores 1 point. Very impressive ..... it’s the kind of thing Simmons and Embiid have been doing.
Against an 11-19 team. Simmons is an all star already and Embiid was an MVP candidate.

Tatum and Brown aren't yet ready to be the foundation pieces of a contender. Kemba and Hayward are still our best two players. Until these two guys surpass both of them, I'm not ready to say they are the foundation of this team's success yet.

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Philly is not, and has never been a contender with Simmons and Embiid

Joshyjess · Post #460 » by **Joshyjess** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:12 pm

Jaqua92 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:yeah we will have tatum locked up probably at the max next year, and JB will start his sub-max deal for another 4 years. that, mi amigos, is called a foundation.

No Smart, no Hayward, a deplete center roster to throw at Drummond and the two Js lead a rout in a game Kemba scores 1 point. Very impressive ..... it’s the kind of thing Simmons and Embiid have been doing.
Against an 11-19 team. Simmons is an all star already and Embiid was an MVP candidate.

Tatum and Brown aren't yet ready to be the foundation pieces of a contender. Kemba and Hayward are still our best two players. Until these two guys surpass both of them, I'm not ready to say they are the foundation of this team's success yet.

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There are a lot of great combos in the NBA - Simmons and Embiid aren't one of them. Individually, both guys are really good at certain aspects of the game, together, they don't work that well. Neither Simmons nor Embiid have an all-around game, so they need someone to help them where they aren't good, Neither of them do that for each other. I would much rather base my team's future on Brown and Tatum, then on Simmons and Embiid.