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The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread

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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#441 » by BostonCouchGM » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:18 pm

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I remember a bunch of you hating this strategy employed by Stevens the past two seasons.

It's a good strategy. keep a stud 25 PPG scorer on the court at all times. If we did the opposite (rest them at the same to increase the number of mins they play together), then we would become a less consistent team.


haven't they done this for awhile and it doesn't matter because when Tatum sits we struggle? Jaylen doesn't make others better. With our better depth we shouldn't be staggering Tatum and Brown any longer.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#442 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:38 pm

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I remember a bunch of you hating this strategy employed by Stevens the past two seasons.

It's a good strategy. keep a stud 25 PPG scorer on the court at all times. If we did the opposite (rest them at the same to increase the number of mins they play together), then we would become a less consistent team.


haven't they done this for awhile and it doesn't matter because when Tatum sits we struggle? Jaylen doesn't make others better. With our better depth we shouldn't be staggering Tatum and Brown any longer.

Our depth isn't good enough to not have either Jay on the floor imo.

Who carries the offense? Dennis Schroder? He's a good bench players but you need someone else imo. Pritchard or Nesmith maybe, but those guys don't really have capability to break down the defense and get to the hole, Dennis the only one known for that
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#443 » by Hal14 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 11:04 pm

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I remember a bunch of you hating this strategy employed by Stevens the past two seasons.

It's a good strategy. keep a stud 25 PPG scorer on the court at all times. If we did the opposite (rest them at the same to increase the number of mins they play together), then we would become a less consistent team.


haven't they done this for awhile and it doesn't matter because when Tatum sits we struggle? Jaylen doesn't make others better. With our better depth we shouldn't be staggering Tatum and Brown any longer.

Jaylen doesn't make others better?

1) Brown is only 24. He is still developing. He has improved each year in the league. He's not a finished product. He absolutely can become better at making others better

2) One of the biggest things Udoka has harped on over and over since taking the head coaching job is he vows to help turn Tatum and Brown into better play makers for others

3) It's a team game. If Tatum sits out, it's not Brown out there by himself. There will be 4 other players on the court who potentially can also score the ball (so Brown doesn't have to do it every time) and 4 other players on the court who can also make others better. 1 of those guys who will also be on the court will ya know, be a PG. And that's kind of a PG's job, to make others better. Brown's job is to score.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#444 » by Ben-N1ce » Wed Sep 29, 2021 11:27 pm

Jaylen and Tatum both need to make their teammates better. Jaylen is very tunnel vision on offense. Tatum doesn't have a ton offensive weaknesses. All I want is fewer fade aways..I'd even take pull up 15 footer over that trash and quick passes on hard traps and double teams. He misses the simple play too much although he's improved. I think they have enough shooting to make teams pay if they swing the ball correctly and actually move and cut..selfless guys like Al should really help in that regard to set a tone.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#445 » by DelMonte West » Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:43 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:Oh and this Simmons situation is quite bizzare to me. Further proves that them lads develop unhealthy egos that comes with fame and money at a very early age. Imagine getting paid 30 mils a year to be average and throwing temper tantrums. A lots of the NBA players do not realize how luck they are. If I'm the 6ers I'd keep the guy there for a year without pay and then terminate his contract. I believe dude still thinks he's the 2nd coming of LBJ when he's a 6'10 Rondo.


Rondo had ten times the killer instinct Simmons has shown and that's probably shortchanging Rondo. Their playoff performances are night and day.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#446 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:58 am

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FlatearthZorro wrote:Oh and this Simmons situation is quite bizzare to me. Further proves that them lads develop unhealthy egos that comes with fame and money at a very early age. Imagine getting paid 30 mils a year to be average and throwing temper tantrums. A lots of the NBA players do not realize how luck they are. If I'm the 6ers I'd keep the guy there for a year without pay and then terminate his contract. I believe dude still thinks he's the 2nd coming of LBJ when he's a 6'10 Rondo.


Rondo had ten times the killer instinct Simmons has shown and that's probably shortchanging Rondo. Their playoff performances are night and day.


True, I'm saying Simmons' game resembeles Rondo's more than LBJ. First and second season in the league, Simmons was actually attacking way more.
Btw, I'm all for players getting paid, problem is guys like Porter getting 40 mils a year and it seems to me that it has put the game itself in the backseat, which is not great for the fans.
Simmons is a prime example, to me, dude should be doing whatever he can to make it up to the Sixers as he was the main reason they lost to the Hawks. He was averaging like 3 points a game for the series. Instead, he's acting up as if it was the franchise's fault. He's a spoiled little diva. Reality still hasn't settled in for him, but it will, if he doesn't put in some hard work.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#447 » by RickyDizzle » Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:14 pm

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BostonCouchGM wrote:
Hal14 wrote:It's a good strategy. keep a stud 25 PPG scorer on the court at all times. If we did the opposite (rest them at the same to increase the number of mins they play together), then we would become a less consistent team.


haven't they done this for awhile and it doesn't matter because when Tatum sits we struggle? Jaylen doesn't make others better. With our better depth we shouldn't be staggering Tatum and Brown any longer.

Our depth isn't good enough to not have either Jay on the floor imo.

Who carries the offense? Dennis Schroder? He's a good bench players but you need someone else imo. Pritchard or Nesmith maybe, but those guys don't really have capability to break down the defense and get to the hole, Dennis the only one known for that


I think if Tatum is out, horford being in for playmaking with Nesmith or Pritchard for floor spacing is good. Brown can drive and do his thing, kick it out on doubles. Pritchard can playmake a little and Horford can out of the high post.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#448 » by sam_I_am » Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:27 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
DelMonte West wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:Oh and this Simmons situation is quite bizzare to me. Further proves that them lads develop unhealthy egos that comes with fame and money at a very early age. Imagine getting paid 30 mils a year to be average and throwing temper tantrums. A lots of the NBA players do not realize how luck they are. If I'm the 6ers I'd keep the guy there for a year without pay and then terminate his contract. I believe dude still thinks he's the 2nd coming of LBJ when he's a 6'10 Rondo.


Rondo had ten times the killer instinct Simmons has shown and that's probably shortchanging Rondo. Their playoff performances are night and day.


True, I'm saying Simmons' game resembeles Rondo's more than LBJ. First and second season in the league, Simmons was actually attacking way more.
Btw, I'm all for players getting paid, problem is guys like Porter getting 40 mils a year and it seems to me that it has put the game itself in the backseat, which is not great for the fans.
Simmons is a prime example, to me, dude should be doing whatever he can to make it up to the Sixers as he was the main reason they lost to the Hawks. He was averaging like 3 points a game for the series. Instead, he's acting up as if it was the franchise's fault. He's a spoiled little diva. Reality still hasn't settled in for him, but it will, if he doesn't put in some hard work.


I think if you surrounded Simmons with 3 hall of famers with the shooting ability of Ray, Paul and KG he would look pretty damn amazing too.

I completely believe that if he ended up on GS he would look all world. They just don’t need him because the already have Green who would probably look like trash in Philly too.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#449 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:49 pm

The issue with Simmons isn't the skillset. It's the willingness to work on his game and to take coaching.
His inability to shoot free throws is a non-starter for me. You can't have him on the floor at the end of a close game.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#450 » by playa-hater » Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:48 pm

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Bro, say less.

I'm totally in on him launching Cliff Robinson-style once he leaves for sure. In fact, I'm all in for him taking nothing but 3's in his first game back in Philly wherever he lands just to troll the fans.


get bent. I'll remind you when I'm proven right


I think you missed the part where I was completely agreeing with everything you said.

"say less"= totally agreed with you before you finished the statement.

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LOL, I was wondering what the hell was going on between you 2.. BC definitely mis-read your quote..
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Post#454 » by ballup » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:27 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
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Rondo had ten times the killer instinct Simmons has shown and that's probably shortchanging Rondo. Their playoff performances are night and day.


True, I'm saying Simmons' game resembeles Rondo's more than LBJ. First and second season in the league, Simmons was actually attacking way more.
Btw, I'm all for players getting paid, problem is guys like Porter getting 40 mils a year and it seems to me that it has put the game itself in the backseat, which is not great for the fans.
Simmons is a prime example, to me, dude should be doing whatever he can to make it up to the Sixers as he was the main reason they lost to the Hawks. He was averaging like 3 points a game for the series. Instead, he's acting up as if it was the franchise's fault. He's a spoiled little diva. Reality still hasn't settled in for him, but it will, if he doesn't put in some hard work.


I think if you surrounded Simmons with 3 hall of famers with the shooting ability of Ray, Paul and KG he would look pretty damn amazing too.

I completely believe that if he ended up on GS he would look all world. They just don’t need him because the already have Green who would probably look like trash in Philly too.


It's not the quality of teammates that's the difference between the two. Simmons hasn't found a counter when the defense schemes against him. Prime Rondo was aggressive, figured out small ways to get guys open, and could play off ball as a passer who could find the one teammate that was open. Granted he was on greatly executed teams. Simmons doesn't do the small things like get timely rebounds or play with fire. You know how Smart is always praised for winning plays? Rondo did similar things back then, flying all over the court like he was yeeted from a cannon

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Post#457 » by BostonCouchGM » Mon Oct 4, 2021 10:05 pm

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get bent. I'll remind you when I'm proven right


I think you missed the part where I was completely agreeing with everything you said.

"say less"= totally agreed with you before you finished the statement.

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LOL, I was wondering what the hell was going on between you 2.. BC definitely mis-read your quote..


ha ha ha I totally did. My bad :oops:
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Post#458 » by bucknersrevenge » Tue Oct 5, 2021 12:34 am

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I think you missed the part where I was completely agreeing with everything you said.

"say less"= totally agreed with you before you finished the statement.

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LOL, I was wondering what the hell was going on between you 2.. BC definitely mis-read your quote..


ha ha ha I totally did. My bad :oops:


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