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2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#441 » by shackles10 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:09 am

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Miles Byrd, a 6-7 guard from SDSU is putting up some Derrick White levels of stocks this year.

Derrick had a steal rate of 2.2% with a block rate of 4.9% as a senior at Colorado. Byrd over his two seasons has a steal rate of 3.5% and a block rate of 4.5%… so I’m intrigued. Byrd has been showing up in mock drafts in the 30s with more regularity of late

At least, the Celtics have had success drafting a guy with a similar name in the past.


I wouldn’t call Jabari a success but tomato tomato
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#442 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 7:37 pm

shackles10 wrote:
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Miles Byrd, a 6-7 guard from SDSU is putting up some Derrick White levels of stocks this year.

Derrick had a steal rate of 2.2% with a block rate of 4.9% as a senior at Colorado. Byrd over his two seasons has a steal rate of 3.5% and a block rate of 4.5%… so I’m intrigued. Byrd has been showing up in mock drafts in the 30s with more regularity of late

At least, the Celtics have had success drafting a guy with a similar name in the past.


I wouldn’t call Jabari a success but tomato tomato

Well played.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#443 » by snowman » Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:24 pm

With Horford's age, Porzingis's health, Kornet only signed for one more year, all we really have to count on is Queta after next season. I just read the article on Danny Wolf (7'0 250 lb center out of Michigan) as our top pick in the 2nd round, or even our 1st if we keep it. He is a good rebounder (10.1), rim protect (1.6) can hit the three (34.8%), and a good assist man (4). Give him a year in our system and I think he would boarder line starter material, or at least a good backup.
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Post#444 » by Hal14 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:22 pm

Ian Jackson has been brought up in here a little bit. He's been playing so well lately that he'll probably be off the board before we pick..here's an article I just wrote on why I now have him ranked as a top 5 prospect in this class:

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Might not be the best fit since he's more of a high usage perimeter scorer and we are pretty well set in that aspect.

But some folks on here have been clamoring for another guy (particularly off the bench) who can score and create his own shot.

So you never know..Jackson could be our guy..
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Post#445 » by djFan71 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:40 pm

Hal14 wrote:Ian Jackson has been brought up in here a little bit. He's been playing so well lately that he'll probably be off the board before we pick..here's an article I just wrote on why I now have him ranked as a top 5 prospect in this class:

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Might not be the best fit since he's more of a high usage perimeter scorer and we are pretty well set in that aspect.

But some folks on here have been clamoring for another guy (particularly off the bench) who can score and create his own shot.

So you never know..Jackson could be our guy..

I've been wondering about him lately. Seems to have Maxey vibes to me as well. I went from being surprised to seeing his name at our range on the first few mocks, to now assuming he'll be gone before us, lol.
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Post#446 » by Hal14 » Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:16 pm

djFan71 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Ian Jackson has been brought up in here a little bit. He's been playing so well lately that he'll probably be off the board before we pick..here's an article I just wrote on why I now have him ranked as a top 5 prospect in this class:

Read on Twitter


Might not be the best fit since he's more of a high usage perimeter scorer and we are pretty well set in that aspect.

But some folks on here have been clamoring for another guy (particularly off the bench) who can score and create his own shot.

So you never know..Jackson could be our guy..

I've been wondering about him lately. Seems to have Maxey vibes to me as well. I went from being surprised to seeing his name at our range on the first few mocks, to now assuming he'll be gone before us, lol.

Some Maxey vibes, yeah. I can see that. I see a little bit of Donovan Mitchell and Bradley Beal in him too. Smaller Jaylen Brown..

Idk, doesn't seem like the type of draft pick Brad goes for. But you never know. If we took Jackson and he pans out, man - our offense would be really tough to stop.

A lot of mocks seem to have him in like the 20-30 range, so maybe he is there when we pick. But he's been on a tear lately and if he keeps this up, he'll probably go higher..
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#447 » by phincsfan » Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:31 pm

snowman wrote:With Horford's age, Porzingis's health, Kornet only signed for one more year, all we really have to count on is Queta after next season. I just read the article on Danny Wolf (7'0 250 lb center out of Michigan) as our top pick in the 2nd round, or even our 1st if we keep it. He is a good rebounder (10.1), rim protect (1.6) can hit the three (34.8%), and a good assist man (4). Give him a year in our system and I think he would boarder line starter material, or at least a good backup.


Post#105 » by phincsfan » Wed Oct 9, 2024 5:50 pm
I'm interested in seeing Danny Wolf play in the Big 10 this year at Michigan. I watched the Auburn Yale 1st rd game because of Broome but I recently saw Wolf's name pop up on a prospect list and when I put two and two together I remembered he was the one wearing the face mask in the tourney. He actually played really well at the FIBA U20 in 23' against good teams. He's Scal's taller twin at first glance. He's no where near the 1st and 2nd rd on any mock right now. I'd like to see what he does playing in a big program against elite college talent.

Post#259 » by phincsfan » Sat Dec 7, 2024 11:41 am
Keep an eye on Danny Wolf out of Michigan. There were early rumors he may go in the 1st but I don't see him on any mocks so far.


I like his game alot. Great IQ for a 7ftr.

I don't see him declaring if he's gonna be a 2nd rounder.
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Post#448 » by djFan71 » Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:56 pm

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/its-movement-time-2025-nba-draft

Mentions a lot of guys we've been talking about.
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Post#449 » by 165bows » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:05 pm

djFan71 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Ian Jackson has been brought up in here a little bit. He's been playing so well lately that he'll probably be off the board before we pick..here's an article I just wrote on why I now have him ranked as a top 5 prospect in this class:

Read on Twitter


Might not be the best fit since he's more of a high usage perimeter scorer and we are pretty well set in that aspect.

But some folks on here have been clamoring for another guy (particularly off the bench) who can score and create his own shot.

So you never know..Jackson could be our guy..

I've been wondering about him lately. Seems to have Maxey vibes to me as well. I went from being surprised to seeing his name at our range on the first few mocks, to now assuming he'll be gone before us, lol.

Not big on passing the ball doesn’t look like.
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Post#450 » by djFan71 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:17 pm

165bows wrote:
djFan71 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Ian Jackson has been brought up in here a little bit. He's been playing so well lately that he'll probably be off the board before we pick..here's an article I just wrote on why I now have him ranked as a top 5 prospect in this class:
Spoiler:
Read on Twitter


Might not be the best fit since he's more of a high usage perimeter scorer and we are pretty well set in that aspect.

But some folks on here have been clamoring for another guy (particularly off the bench) who can score and create his own shot.

So you never know..Jackson could be our guy..

I've been wondering about him lately. Seems to have Maxey vibes to me as well. I went from being surprised to seeing his name at our range on the first few mocks, to now assuming he'll be gone before us, lol.

Not big on passing the ball doesn’t look like.

Easy enough to teach someone to swing it around the perimeter to the next guy to launch a 3.
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Post#451 » by djFan71 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:57 pm

I haven't read this yet, but Nique is a guy I'm interested in, so definitely will soon.
https://edemirnba.substack.com/p/nique-clifford-scouting-report
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Post#452 » by djFan71 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:58 pm

And Mgbako too (haven't read yet either, but am interested)
https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/mackenzie-mgbako-the-slept-on-sophomore
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Post#453 » by threrf23 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:31 pm

Statistically, I think Nique Clifford looks like a viable 3&D guy. I am skeptical of Mgbako, his stock numbers are pedestrian, and his freshman foul efficiency poor within that context, rebounding is meh and he has been a much better FT shooter than three point shooter which I think is a soft red flag even if it maybe speaks to unrealized potential.
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Post#454 » by Hal14 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:02 pm

165bows wrote:
djFan71 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Ian Jackson has been brought up in here a little bit. He's been playing so well lately that he'll probably be off the board before we pick..here's an article I just wrote on why I now have him ranked as a top 5 prospect in this class:

Read on Twitter


Might not be the best fit since he's more of a high usage perimeter scorer and we are pretty well set in that aspect.

But some folks on here have been clamoring for another guy (particularly off the bench) who can score and create his own shot.

So you never know..Jackson could be our guy..

I've been wondering about him lately. Seems to have Maxey vibes to me as well. I went from being surprised to seeing his name at our range on the first few mocks, to now assuming he'll be gone before us, lol.

Not big on passing the ball doesn’t look like.

I touched on it in the article, but imo Jackson is a better passer (and defender) than the stats indicate..

And in terms of scoring volume, scoring efficiency (from inside the arc and from 3) he's as good as any prospect in this draft class.
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Post#455 » by djFan71 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:40 am

threrf23 wrote:Statistically, I think Nique Clifford looks like a viable 3&D guy. I am skeptical of Mgbako, his stock numbers are pedestrian, and his freshman foul efficiency poor within that context, rebounding is meh and he has been a much better FT shooter than three point shooter which I think is a soft red flag even if it maybe speaks to unrealized potential.

Yeah, Mgbako kinda feels like a Hauser with less D right now. Size and shooting and hope the D becomes adequate is pretty much it. Another one of those where 31 feels too high, but I'd be interested in grabbing lower / developing.
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Post#456 » by 165bows » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:33 am

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djFan71 wrote:I've been wondering about him lately. Seems to have Maxey vibes to me as well. I went from being surprised to seeing his name at our range on the first few mocks, to now assuming he'll be gone before us, lol.

Not big on passing the ball doesn’t look like.

I touched on it in the article, but imo Jackson is a better passer (and defender) than the stats indicate..

And in terms of scoring volume, scoring efficiency (from inside the arc and from 3) he's as good as any prospect in this draft class.

Def possible but 0.25 AST/usg and 0.76 AST/TO are a bit wince inducing for a guard who’ll be 20 on draft night.
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Post#457 » by 165bows » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:42 am

Ok cancel everything else let’s draft this guy:

https://youtu.be/z7cfnnzPF74?feature=shared
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Post#458 » by djFan71 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:48 am

165bows wrote:Ok cancel everything else let’s draft this guy:

https://youtu.be/z7cfnnzPF74?feature=shared

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Post#459 » by Hal14 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:16 am

165bows wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
165bows wrote:Not big on passing the ball doesn’t look like.

I touched on it in the article, but imo Jackson is a better passer (and defender) than the stats indicate..

And in terms of scoring volume, scoring efficiency (from inside the arc and from 3) he's as good as any prospect in this draft class.

Def possible but 0.25 AST/usg and 0.76 AST/TO are a bit wince inducing for a guard who’ll be 20 on draft night.

20 is not that old. Here's some guys who were 20+ on draft night:

Haliburton, Brunson, Holmgren, McCain, Brandon Miller, Middleton, jimmy butler, Lillard, Steph, Kemba, Siakam, Bane, Mikal Bridges.

And again, the numbers aren't everything. When I look at the film..and I watch other games from before he was in college (which is helpful to do so we're not basing everything on a 1 year sample size, and in this case it's only half a season sample size) he's a better passer than the numbers indicate.

Sometimes a guy will make a good pass but it's a hockey assist so doesn't count as an assist. Or he'll make a good pass but the teammate misses the shot...or teammate gets fouled.

And Jackson's turnover % is very low, especially relative to his usage %..

While he's older for a freshman, he's still just a freshman. Freshmen who are this good at driving to the rim and shooting from 3 are probably not going to be great playmakers..otherwise they'd be a perfect offensive prospect, which pretty much doesn't exist.
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Post#460 » by djFan71 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:38 am

redslastlaugh wrote:
shackles10 wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Miles Byrd, a 6-7 guard from SDSU is putting up some Derrick White levels of stocks this year.

Derrick had a steal rate of 2.2% with a block rate of 4.9% as a senior at Colorado. Byrd over his two seasons has a steal rate of 3.5% and a block rate of 4.5%… so I’m intrigued. Byrd has been showing up in mock drafts in the 30s with more regularity of late


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