The Trade-Mill - Trade Thread Part Infinity

[robbie84]

Can trading for Butler or Griffin or John Wall on draft night be enough to lure Durant to Boston? Wall is a very remote possibility but who knows where Wizards are headed. Got to win the lottery first! I'm praying to the many-faced god from now until May 17.

Gotta love a few of the tweets from yesterday.

Weird thing is, is say they trade AB/#3 or something similar for Butler. Hypothetically follow that up by signing Durant. After that there isn't much cap space left to fix the front court, which they really would need to do.

There is more capspace than you'd think, but only if we sign and trade for that space.
Amir would have to go out, and we'd probably give Turner or Sully some decent short term deals to help with the $$$ side.
It all depends on their cap holds.

[ConstableGeneva]

A “transformative” offseason would entail trading for a major veteran player then signing a second max (or near max) player and going into next season over the cap. The “middle ground” path would involve trading for or drafting someone with a lower salary like Jahlil Okafor, signing a player who may not be a traditional max player (example: Nic Batum or Harrison Barnes), and entering the season near the salary floor. The “slow and steady” path would be adding a top-flight prospect from the draft, overpaying for a mid tier free agent (like Amir Johnson this season) on a creatively structured deal, and accepting the idea that the team may not reach the salary floor.
All paths have a bright future, but the 2016-17 projection could range anywhere from division to title contender.

Source: http://www.celticshub.com/2016/02/22/57838/

[ConstableGeneva]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/702539054907133952[/tweet]Demand a trade to Boston and you can have all the Arbella and Legal Sea Foods billboards you want.

[lon3lytoaster]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/702539054907133952[/tweet]Demand a trade to Boston and you can have all the Arbella and Legal Sea Foods billboards you want.

Really though. If you're a great player on a good Celtics team you get pushed nationally. KG was featured extensively for Adidas and Gatorade in 2007. Even IT got national love with his all star berth.

I'd happily take Mr. Wall.

[Darth Celtic]

My Ideal situation is trading cap space and the Nets pick for an all star player, trading our pick this year and 2018 along with cap space and unused players (young, zeller s&T, rozier) for another star/not exactly all star player. With remaining money convince KD that joining a young team that is top 4 in East with 2 added stars and future top 5 picks from nets = dynasty. One can dream.

[DarkAzcura]

Not really interested in Wall. He's a mediocre volume scorer who takes too many shots. Meh. Career 51% TS. Doesn't have a good jump shot and doesn't draw enough fouls to make up for it. That quote of his also kinda makes me want to puke.

[ConstableGeneva]

Not really interested in Wall. He's a mediocre volume scorer who takes too many shots. Meh. Career 51% TS, and that quote of his kinda makes me want to puke.

Wall's coach for the better part of his career is Randy Wittman. Imagine having Brad Stevens as your coach and a better offensive system/environment surrounding you in Boston. And he doesn't need to take as many shots if Butler and KD are playing alongside him lol.

I just feel like your full potential hasn't been unlocked if you're playing for this guy:

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[DarkAzcura]

Not really interested in Wall. He's a mediocre volume scorer who takes too many shots. Meh. Career 51% TS, and that quote of his kinda makes me want to puke.

Wall's coach for the better part of his career is Randy Wittman. Imagine having Brad Stevens as your coach and a better offensive system/environment surrounding you in Boston. And he doesn't need to take as many shots if Butler and KD are playing alongside him lol.

Maybe. I think it's too risky for someone I don't consider an amazing player. I'd rather stick with what I know in IT, who is a 21/7 guy on 56-58% TS. There is a possibility that Stevens could put Wall in better situations to be successful, but I think in this case, he may be getting a bit too much credit. I'm not sure how Stevens would make Wall a more efficient scorer honestly, and again, I really dislike that quote by him. Between that, and his off-hand comments about Reggie Jackson making the same money as him, the dude seems way too into himself.

[Gomes3PC]

I would love Wall. He has preternatural vision. He's a bit of a chucker but with a better coach I think a guy like Stevens would get him to improve his shot selection.

Wall and a big like Olynyk would be deadly - there's not a PG in the league that does a better job sucking in defenders and finding passes for easy looks from 3. Just look at how a mediocre guy like Dudley has thrived with Wall.

[FakeScreenName123]

Everything Wall said was correct.

[SMTBSI]

Maybe. I think it's too risky for someone I don't consider an amazing player. I'd rather stick with what I know in IT, who is a 21/7 guy on 56-58% TS. There is a possibility that Stevens could put Wall in better situations to be successful, but I think in this case, he may be getting a bit too much credit. I'm not sure how Stevens would make Wall a more efficient scorer honestly, and again, I really dislike that quote by him. Between that, and his off-hand comments about Reggie Jackson making the same money as him, the dude seems way too into himself.

That quotation is really off-putting to me too, for some reason. On the one hand, it probably shouldn't be - a lot of these guys are businessmen, and are concerned with building their brand - I understand. On the other, there's just something about the way the thought is expressed that's very... annoying. 'I should be seen in the people's eyes', 'where's my share?', 'I ain't got no billboards'...

Even with that, and his inefficient offense, not sure I wouldn't take him (adding his size and defense to this team at the PG spot is appealing, to say nothing of Gomes' points), but, just think how we'd feel if Crowder or IT started talking like that...

[Curmudgeon]

The question is whether or not spending more money and other resources on name players in some sort of "transformative" move will produce more wins. Sometimes things doesn't work out as planned. Just ask Billy King.

The right players and the right mix of players is critical.

[leper-con]

Didn't Double P call out the Wizards young guys work ethic?
Walls a talent but I feel he's a secondary star type player. He isn't a true number one lead dog.

[VeryMuchWoke]

I'd be down to gamble on Wall if either of the following weren't true:

1) PG is the easiest position to fill in the NBA.
2) PG is the position at which we have the most talent.

[ThirtyFour]

So if Washington were to trade us Wall for what turned out to be the #1 pick at draft time and there are no other offers on the table (worth listening to) do you:

1) Trade for Wall
2) Draft Simmons/Ingram

Who's more likely to spark the interest of another big time free agent?

[165bows]

Can trading for Butler or Griffin or John Wall on draft night be enough to lure Durant to Boston? Wall is a very remote possibility but who knows where Wizards are headed. Got to win the lottery first! I'm praying to the many-faced god from now until May 17.

Gotta love a few of the tweets from yesterday.

Weird thing is, is say they trade AB/#3 or something similar for Butler. Hypothetically follow that up by signing Durant. After that there isn't much cap space left to fix the front court, which they really would need to do.

There is more capspace than you'd think, but only if we sign and trade for that space.
Amir would have to go out, and we'd probably give Turner or Sully some decent short term deals to help with the $$$ side.
It all depends on their cap holds.

Sure it creates more room to execute sign and trades. It's not nearly as straightforward as just signing the guys however.

Both Amir and Jerebko are fully guaranteed by that point, so they are either gone from the roster or locked into their deals by the team trades can be made for impending FAs.

[Captain_Caveman]

Everything Wall said was correct.

Yeah, but came across kinda cheesy. Would rather hear him talk about how he wants to win a title, not that he is being underutilized in marketing. Kind of a red flag, as far as I am concerned, and I like the guy.

[Green89]

Yah, the whole "I should be seen in commercials" part rubs me the wrong way.

[Afam]

So if Washington were to trade us Wall for what turned out to be the #1 pick at draft time and there are no other offers on the table (worth listening to) do you:

1) Trade for Wall
2) Draft Simmons/Ingram

Who's more likely to spark the interest of another big time free agent?

John Wall.

[rickrolled]

Durant will bring the fame with him to washington, dont worry Wall.