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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#461 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Nov 5, 2020 4:37 pm

What if I told you that Baynes wasn't really pissed about getting traded to the Suns after he opted in? What if he KNEW he could come back after one year but now instead of playing with Kyrie, he'd be playing with Kemba (was not gonna happen unless he opted in last year)? What if this is his best chance to win a 2nd title while playing alongside guys he liked? What if he misses the food in Boston?!

(I don't know if any of this is true. He hasn't even replied on Twitter yet lol.)

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Post#462 » by playa-hater » Thu Nov 5, 2020 4:49 pm

I want no part of Baynes. He isn't bad. but he would just put Boston back in a 3 man rotation at center. I am sick of lateral moves. Baynes can shoot the 3 (a bit)yes. But can't score inside well. Isn't really a lob threat, doesn't block shots, is probably as bad as Kanter in PNR defense. Also like Theis, he would have pretty good Reg season numbers but would be a liability in the playoffs.

I also, finally want to see what R Williams can do in a extended Role. Either get an upgrade like Gobert, M Turner, or draft a young talent with Upside. OO, Precious, Nnaji, D Oturu or even Paul Reed. Or just let R Williams get an increased min per and let Theis come off the bench where he is better suited.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#463 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Thu Nov 5, 2020 7:22 pm

playa-hater wrote:I want no part of Baynes. He isn't bad. but he would just put Boston back in a 3 man rotation at center. I am sick of lateral moves. Baynes can shoot the 3 (a bit)yes. But can't score inside well. Isn't really a lob threat, doesn't block shots, is probably as bad as Kanter in PNR defense. Also like Theis, he would have pretty good Reg season numbers but would be a liability in the playoffs.

I also, finally want to see what R Williams can do in a extended Role. Either get an upgrade like Gobert, M Turner, or draft a young talent with Upside. OO, Precious, Nnaji, D Oturu or even Paul Reed. Or just let R Williams get an increased min per and let Theis come off the bench where he is better suited.


You're assuming that Theis can't play the 4, which is something he is more than capable of doing though. IF we lose Hayward, I wouldn't mind seeing a bigger lineup at times, depending on the matchup. Smart/Brown/Tatum/Theis/Baynes is viable, IMO. We can play some bully ball.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#464 » by CelticsLV » Thu Nov 5, 2020 7:36 pm

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playa-hater wrote:I want no part of Baynes. He isn't bad. but he would just put Boston back in a 3 man rotation at center. I am sick of lateral moves. Baynes can shoot the 3 (a bit)yes. But can't score inside well. Isn't really a lob threat, doesn't block shots, is probably as bad as Kanter in PNR defense. Also like Theis, he would have pretty good Reg season numbers but would be a liability in the playoffs.

I also, finally want to see what R Williams can do in a extended Role. Either get an upgrade like Gobert, M Turner, or draft a young talent with Upside. OO, Precious, Nnaji, D Oturu or even Paul Reed. Or just let R Williams get an increased min per and let Theis come off the bench where he is better suited.


You're assuming that Theis can't play the 4, which is something he is more than capable of doing though. IF we lose Hayward, I wouldn't mind seeing a bigger lineup at times, depending on the matchup. Smart/Brown/Tatum/Theis/Baynes is viable, IMO. We can play some bully ball.


That's an awful lineup in terms of fit. A PG who can't create for himself or break down opposing defense with drives. 2 bigs who are unreliable shooters and can't create anything, no low or high post abilities. Theis absolutely can't play the 4. It's not ideal when your center can't shoot but both bigs? No thanks. Theis can hit an occasional 3 but it's worth to just ignore him by opponents and playoffs proved it.
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Post#465 » by SmartWentCrazy » Thu Nov 5, 2020 8:15 pm

If Baynes actually was willing to come back [guessing with an under the table NTC], the answer is YES!
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Post#466 » by Disinformation » Thu Nov 5, 2020 8:26 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:If Baynes actually was willing to come back [guessing with an under the table NTC], the answer is YES!


Are there limits on the types of contracts that can include No Trade Clauses?
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#467 » by SmartWentCrazy » Thu Nov 5, 2020 9:36 pm

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:If Baynes actually was willing to come back [guessing with an under the table NTC], the answer is YES!


Are there limits on the types of contracts that can include No Trade Clauses?


Need to be with the team for a certain period of time to get an over the table NTC
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Post#468 » by Feed Your Head » Thu Nov 5, 2020 9:42 pm

Baynes has apparently completely gotten over being pissed. Doesn’t mean he will be back, but yeah.
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Post#469 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Nov 5, 2020 10:11 pm

The Comedian wrote:Baynes has apparently completely gotten over being pissed. Doesn’t mean he will be back, but yeah.


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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#470 » by Triple7 » Fri Nov 6, 2020 5:03 am

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playa-hater wrote:I want no part of Baynes. He isn't bad. but he would just put Boston back in a 3 man rotation at center. I am sick of lateral moves. Baynes can shoot the 3 (a bit)yes. But can't score inside well. Isn't really a lob threat, doesn't block shots, is probably as bad as Kanter in PNR defense. Also like Theis, he would have pretty good Reg season numbers but would be a liability in the playoffs.

I also, finally want to see what R Williams can do in a extended Role. Either get an upgrade like Gobert, M Turner, or draft a young talent with Upside. OO, Precious, Nnaji, D Oturu or even Paul Reed. Or just let R Williams get an increased min per and let Theis come off the bench where he is better suited.


You're assuming that Theis can't play the 4, which is something he is more than capable of doing though. IF we lose Hayward, I wouldn't mind seeing a bigger lineup at times, depending on the matchup. Smart/Brown/Tatum/Theis/Baynes is viable, IMO. We can play some bully ball.


That's an awful lineup in terms of fit. A PG who can't create for himself or break down opposing defense with drives. 2 bigs who are unreliable shooters and can't create anything, no low or high post abilities. Theis absolutely can't play the 4. It's not ideal when your center can't shoot but both bigs? No thanks. Theis can hit an occasional 3 but it's worth to just ignore him by opponents and playoffs proved it.


I agree. That lineup would be terrible. Theis and Baynes, together with Smart would be horrible offensively. Plus none of those guys are rim protectors. A hard pass on that lineup. A very bad, awful outside shooting team. Not a good fit at all.
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Post#471 » by Triple7 » Fri Nov 6, 2020 5:09 am

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
playa-hater wrote:I want no part of Baynes. He isn't bad. but he would just put Boston back in a 3 man rotation at center. I am sick of lateral moves. Baynes can shoot the 3 (a bit)yes. But can't score inside well. Isn't really a lob threat, doesn't block shots, is probably as bad as Kanter in PNR defense. Also like Theis, he would have pretty good Reg season numbers but would be a liability in the playoffs.

I also, finally want to see what R Williams can do in a extended Role. Either get an upgrade like Gobert, M Turner, or draft a young talent with Upside. OO, Precious, Nnaji, D Oturu or even Paul Reed. Or just let R Williams get an increased min per and let Theis come off the bench where he is better suited.


You're assuming that Theis can't play the 4, which is something he is more than capable of doing though. IF we lose Hayward, I wouldn't mind seeing a bigger lineup at times, depending on the matchup. Smart/Brown/Tatum/Theis/Baynes is viable, IMO. We can play some bully ball.


I disagree. Bully ball is if you have guys that can pound the ball inside and punish them offensively through constant post ups. None of Theis and Baynes can actually do that. That lineup might be good defensively on a halfcourt, but still no rim protectors.
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Post#472 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Fri Nov 6, 2020 7:26 am

Anybody else slightly concerned that we couldn't get a 2nd contract with Irving, Horford or Hayward?
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Post#473 » by Shak_Celts » Fri Nov 6, 2020 8:17 am

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Anybody else slightly concerned that we couldn't get a 2nd contract with Irving, Horford or Hayward?


Waiting on Hayward like the presidential race, not yet decided. But let's look at if you are right. Horford we could have if we wanted to. Kyrie turned into a blessing for leaving us. Even if we don't get it done with Hayward, I'd have to throw out reasons that seem like good things to me... The Jays became so good that soon it could push him even further down the pecking order, his health made it where he couldn't play for us that maybe we can add multiple people in his place who could have better health luck, and we could get out of renewing him and giving him 25+ a year.

Actually, I think we could have kept Kyrie if we folded to things he wanted. So far I'm glad we chose not to. When I question CBS, I would still take him over Kyrie today and twice on Sunday! It's like a relationship, blinded by love, when you have a break and can see more clearly you look back and thank God for getting you outta that situation!

I don't see the trend as being bad with context.

Man, I do wish Hay could remain healthy WITH us but we can't keep paying him 25m+ (34 next season) to see him for a few games in the regular season.
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#474 » by Cuban Pete » Fri Nov 6, 2020 9:21 am

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Anybody else slightly concerned that we couldn't get a 2nd contract with Irving, Horford or Hayward?


Nope. I've said before. High level UFA is enemy turf. The Cs never benefited from it. Since 1988, the only way the team is going to compete for a banner is via trades and drafts.
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Post#475 » by MrGreenRunsDeep » Fri Nov 6, 2020 11:02 am

playa-hater wrote:I want no part of Baynes. He isn't bad. but he would just put Boston back in a 3 man rotation at center. I am sick of lateral moves. Baynes can shoot the 3 (a bit)yes. But can't score inside well. Isn't really a lob threat, doesn't block shots, is probably as bad as Kanter in PNR defense. Also like Theis, he would have pretty good Reg season numbers but would be a liability in the playoffs.

I also, finally want to see what R Williams can do in a extended Role. Either get an upgrade like Gobert, M Turner, or draft a young talent with Upside. OO, Precious, Nnaji, D Oturu or even Paul Reed. Or just let R Williams get an increased min per and let Theis come off the bench where he is better suited.


100% agree with you. Never liked Baynes, he gets dunked on more than blocks shot of the opponents but I thought Baynes was going to retire after Ja Morant ended his career :lol:


Embiid ended his career few season back


Baynes clueless :lol:




Bunch of nba Players Dunking on Baynes






Forget Baynes, We have Time Lord who is 100000 times better than Baynes.
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Post#476 » by famadihana » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:03 pm

Saying Williams is better than Baynes is complete nonsense.
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Post#477 » by BK_2020 » Fri Nov 6, 2020 12:27 pm

Cuban Pete wrote:
BRUNiNHO91 wrote:Anybody else slightly concerned that we couldn't get a 2nd contract with Irving, Horford or Hayward?


Nope. I've said before. High level UFA is enemy turf. The Cs never benefited from it. Since 1988, the only way the team is going to compete for a banner is via trades and drafts.

Yes the Lakers the ultimate homegrown team proved that just this against the Heat led by a homegrown non UFA star.
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Post#478 » by MagicBagley18 » Fri Nov 6, 2020 3:59 pm

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playa-hater wrote:I want no part of Baynes. He isn't bad. but he would just put Boston back in a 3 man rotation at center. I am sick of lateral moves. Baynes can shoot the 3 (a bit)yes. But can't score inside well. Isn't really a lob threat, doesn't block shots, is probably as bad as Kanter in PNR defense. Also like Theis, he would have pretty good Reg season numbers but would be a liability in the playoffs.

I also, finally want to see what R Williams can do in a extended Role. Either get an upgrade like Gobert, M Turner, or draft a young talent with Upside. OO, Precious, Nnaji, D Oturu or even Paul Reed. Or just let R Williams get an increased min per and let Theis come off the bench where he is better suited.


100% agree with you. Never liked Baynes, he gets dunked on more than blocks shot of the opponents but I thought Baynes was going to retire after Ja Morant ended his career :lol:


Embiid ended his career few season back


Baynes clueless :lol:




Bunch of nba Players Dunking on Baynes






Forget Baynes, We have Time Lord who is 100000 times better than Baynes.


Wow he gets dunked on.....ok? he’d be a great addition
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Re: Official Celtics 2020-21 Offseason Thread 

Post#479 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Nov 6, 2020 5:29 pm

Read on Twitter

I'm all for a DRose trade. Especially if Hayward's gone.
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Post#480 » by Parliament10 » Fri Nov 6, 2020 5:51 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
Read on Twitter

I'm all for a DRose trade. Especially if Hayward's gone.

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