Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread

[Larry_Russell]

De'Aaron Fox is the most likely trade target that the Celtics could get without giving up either Jay in my opinion with a package of vets, young players and picks. I'm just not that high on him.

The kid could very easily be negative value in short-order. No defense, can't hit a 3. He's an inefficient scorer who isn't a big playmaker for his teammates.

He's Schroder on the contract that Schroder thought he should have.

No thanks. I barely want the Schroder we have, let alone the expensive version.

Fox is a long ways ahead of Schroder in regards to game and talent

[GoCeltics123]

De'Aaron Fox is the most likely trade target that the Celtics could get without giving up either Jay in my opinion with a package of vets, young players and picks. I'm just not that high on him.

The kid could very easily be negative value in short-order. No defense, can't hit a 3. He's an inefficient scorer who isn't a big playmaker for his teammates.

He's Schroder on the contract that Schroder thought he should have.

No thanks. I barely want the Schroder we have, let alone the expensive version.

Fox is a long ways ahead of Schroder in regards to game and talent

Fox is good but he's having a brutal season and doesn't have a very good feel for the game as a PG

[CeltsFlow]

Yeah, I say no to Fox, we need shooters, and he's looked downright awful this season at times, not just shooting threes but his driving game took a step back as well

[GoCeltics123]

Yeah, I say no to Fox, we need shooters, and he's looked downright awful this season at times, not just shooting threes but his driving game took a step back as well

Plan for this team always was Beal, I doubt that has changed.

Like listen to Brad today, he essentially said that he's not going to trade a Smart or Rob unless it's for a meaningful change, aka Beal.

[greenroom31]

OOF!! Fox throwing elbows all over the place on that one. Rondo sitting in Cleveland like "WTF bro?"

[ddb]

Yeah, I say no to Fox, we need shooters, and he's looked downright awful this season at times, not just shooting threes but his driving game took a step back as well

Plan for this team always was Beal, I doubt that has changed.

Like listen to Brad today, he essentially said that he's not going to trade a Smart or Rob unless it's for a meaningful change, aka as Beal.

Yup I agree. There's a strong probability that Beal has been the plan for awhile now. The lazy analysis is to say there's a connection between Tatum & Beal...But in all reality that connection is beyond the majority of relationships that players have with their peers. Tatum/Beal are "brothers from different mothers" and their relationship is about as family orientated as you're going to find in the league.
Teams/players have to be careful about tampering rules. But with that said, I'd say there's a safe bet that Tatum/Beal/Brad Stevens understand that there's a real possibility of Beal joining Tatum in Boston. Beyond that I think the next question becomes does Brad & his staff envision a Beal/Tatum/Brown trio? Or are they keeping the relationship with Brown strong, but with the intent of possibly moving Brown for a star that better fits Beal/Tatum once Beal is in place?

[cl2117]

Fox is a long ways ahead of Schroder in regards to game and talent

Statistically this season they're the same player getting different minutes.

Might be a down season for Fox, but he's being paid an average of $32m the next 5 years. Hard Pass.

[Curmudgeon]

A Tatum, Beal, Brown trio won't win a thing. But the Beal acquisition will produce a month's worth of stories in the Globe.
Meanwhile, the Wizards will be using the Celtics' draft picks to build a contender.

[Jacobkowal]

Lets get Houston into full tank mode:

Houston: Juancho, Schroder, Nesmith/Langford, 2022 top 20 protected next 3 seasons

Boston: Gordon, Porter jr

Gordon gives us shooting in the starting 5 and Porter jr gives us a back up pg

[GutUNC]

That Fox quote is fake.

[cl2117]

A Tatum, Beal, Brown trio won't win a thing. But the Beal acquisition will produce a month's worth of stories in the Globe.
Meanwhile, the Wizards will be using the Celtics' draft picks to build a contender.

You follow it up with a star for star trade for better fits.

The hard part is getting a star for a package headlined by picks and filler. If you can get one for that kind of package, it doesn't matter the player, you take it and figure it out later.

If you can get Beal for anything not named Tatum/Brown, take it. Subsequently look to move Brown for a 3rd star that does fit with the other two.

[Larry_Russell]

Does this work?

Horford, Nesmith, Schroder to Dallas

Brunson, THjr, Josh Green to Boston

Dallas gets depth and fit/defense around Luka

Schroder/Burke
Luka/Bullock/Nesmith
DFS/Brown
Horford/Kleber
KP/Powell


Boston gets a starting PG (about to be paid) and a shooter for the bench.

Brunson/Pritchard
Smart/Richardson
Brown/THjr
Tatum/Grant
Timelord/Kanter

[Larry_Russell]

A Tatum, Beal, Brown trio won't win a thing. But the Beal acquisition will produce a month's worth of stories in the Globe.
Meanwhile, the Wizards will be using the Celtics' draft picks to build a contender.

You follow it up with a star for star trade for better fits.

The hard part is getting a star for a package headlined by picks and filler. If you can get one for that kind of package, it doesn't matter the player, you take it and figure it out later.

If you can get Beal for anything not named Tatum/Brown, take it. Subsequently look to move Brown for a 3rd star that does fit with the other two.

And who would that fit be?

I think it is already perfect.

But I run Beal with the ball.

Beal
Smart
Brown
Tatum
Timelord

[CelticFaninLBC]

Beal would really help the Jays.

The 2019-2020 team, which went 48-24, had 4 guys shoot 38% or better from 3 (Hayward, Kemba, Tatum & Brown).

[CelticFaninLBC]

Stevens needs to trade Horford and Schroder, so Ime doesn't pack the lineups with below average shooters.

Horford, Schroder and protected FRP to ATL for Gallo, Wright & Reddish.

Watch Rob Williams get a season ending injury the day after Horford's traded.

[itrsteve]

Does this work?

Horford, Nesmith, Schroder to Dallas

Brunson, THjr, Josh Green to Boston

Dallas gets depth and fit/defense around Luka

Schroder/Burke
Luka/Bullock/Nesmith
DFS/Brown
Horford/Kleber
KP/Powell


Boston gets a starting PG (about to be paid) and a shooter for the bench.

Brunson/Pritchard
Smart/Richardson
Brown/THjr
Tatum/Grant
Timelord/Kanter

Tough to see Dallas parting with Brunson for a PG on an expiring contract w/o bird rights. I'd love that deal though, but tough to see it on the other side.

[jmr07019]

Can someone please put Brad's face on this?

[Hal14]

Yeah, I say no to Fox, we need shooters, and he's looked downright awful this season at times, not just shooting threes but his driving game took a step back as well

Plan for this team always was Beal, I doubt that has changed.

Like listen to Brad today, he essentially said that he's not going to trade a Smart or Rob unless it's for a meaningful change, aka Beal.

Beal is the only player in the league where it would be considered meaningful to add him?

I can think of at least 50 players we could add where it would be considered meaningful.

I doubt Brad is putting all his eggs in the Beal basket. Getting him is no sure thing.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Yeah, I say no to Fox, we need shooters, and he's looked downright awful this season at times, not just shooting threes but his driving game took a step back as well

Plan for this team always was Beal, I doubt that has changed.

Like listen to Brad today, he essentially said that he's not going to trade a Smart or Rob unless it's for a meaningful change, aka Beal.

Beal is the only player in the league where it would be considered meaningful to add him?

I can think of at least 50 players we could add where it would be considered meaningful.

I doubt Brad is putting all his eggs in the Beal basket. Getting him is no sure thing.

Stevens would deal Smart and Williams for Simmons. Would need a 3rd team to make that trade happen though.

[bruno sundov]

Trade Smart, Tatum and Brown. Blow it up. Get all you can in return. As in NBA high end talent and not just draft picks. They don't work well together.