Rajon Rondo Traded To The Mavericks.

[lon3lytoaster]

Forgot to mention, if the Mavs pick falls to 2016, the Celtics could have 4 first round picks in that draft.

Nets, Cavs, Mavs, & their own.

Mighty nice.

Nice in theory but there's no way we use all those picks. We can't. And I'm not holding my breath we flip them for anything of value. I guess moving up in the draft is the only hope I have for those 4 picks. And we have to hope the receiving team values quantity.

[Ed Pinkney]

Just out of interest does anyone think Rondo's play was going to improve over the next two or three years with the Celtics, let alone this season? Personally I don't think it was going to happen.

Could Ainge have gotten a better deal? Maybe, but unlikely due to his free agent status as if there was a better deal out there then it would have happened. Was it going to be an ongoing issue and distraction for the team, coaching staff etc if he remained with the team? Very likely.

[DarkAzcura]

Forgot to mention, if the Mavs pick falls to 2016, the Celtics could have 4 first round picks in that draft.

Nets, Cavs, Mavs, & their own.

Mighty nice.

Nice in theory but there's no way we use all those picks. We can't. And I'm not holding my breath we flip them for anything of value. I guess moving up in the draft is the only hope I have for those 4 picks. And we have to hope the receiving team values quantity.

Well even if Rondo is severely undervalued...if a low first rounder and bench players can net an elite playmaker, I can't even imagine what multiple first round picks could potentially net us. Really depends on if any teams will have disgruntled stars. I thought DMC was out of the question with their hot start. Finally seemed like they were putting together, but it could potentially fall apart again because of their owner's impatience, so who knows? Could be anyone..someone we aren't thinking about. I'll remain hopeful that something will come through within the next year or two with those picks.

[Phenomenonsense]

There has got to be some diminishing returns on the amount of first round picks you guys are getting. Like, no one wants to trade 1, higher pick for 2-3 guaranteed players/roster spots. Good luck.

[bbd24]

There has got to be some diminishing returns on the amount of first round picks you guys are getting. Like, no one wants to trade 1, higher pick for 2-3 guaranteed players/roster spots. Good luck.

I'd keep them all. I like my chances with Ainge netting an all star with 4 attempts. It significantly ups your chances.

Before that though, I think he packages one or two with some youth for a stud.

[Slartibartfast]

Who cares what Smart, Sully and KO are worth this year - the quick rebuild is off the table, and more picks aren't incoming.

I hate tanking, but trading your best player for crap but still pursuing the 8th seed is madness. Green's gotta go.

I don't think Rondo is this team's best player. I think he has been awful this year and essentially proved he can't be the best player of a team. This team was a 9-14 with Rondo and without.

Whether Green stays or goes isn't essential but saying who cares about Smart, Sully, and KO is a joke that is all that matters. That is what this is all about now what can Brad Stevens do with the young talent he is given. It is about talent development not tanking. Look at the Bucks.

I care about them as players - but their trade value this year is meaningless. They aren't going to be traded.

Brad might turn out to be a wiz with this group, but developing a roster full of feel good stories isn't going to get this team back to contention. We need top end talent. Rondo was one and could lure others. Now that he's gone, the draft is the only place to get the top shelf guys.

If the plan is to ride to 40ish wins on starless teams that "play the right way," color me less than enthused.

[Egregiousness]

I am still a little shocked with how little they got in return, but i have to think that Rondo made clear to the front office that he will not resign and they pulled the trigger on the best deal they could get.

but jameer nelson (who i really cringe every time i watch) and brandon wright (a 27 year old with potential) and a #30 pick just dont cut it. Jae Crowder is a nice player but i cant see getting much time to develop with green, turner, young, and wallace at the 3.

This just doesn't make sense.


...best case is rondo flakes and doesnt resign with the mavs so we wind up getting a #22 pick instead of a #30 in 2016

[humblebum]

Seriously guys, relax. People will want to play with Smart for some reason. What a relief.

Team USA baby!

[StojkoVrankovic]

Seriously guys, relax. People will want to play with Smart for some reason. What a relief.

Team USA baby!

You couldn't possibly be trying any harder right now

[humblebum]

Who cares what Smart, Sully and KO are worth this year - the quick rebuild is off the table, and more picks aren't incoming.

I hate tanking, but trading your best player for crap but still pursuing the 8th seed is madness. Green's gotta go.

I don't think Rondo is this team's best player. I think he has been awful this year and essentially proved he can't be the best player of a team. This team was a 9-14 with Rondo and without.

Whether Green stays or goes isn't essential but saying who cares about Smart, Sully, and KO is a joke that is all that matters. That is what this is all about now what can Brad Stevens do with the young talent he is given. It is about talent development not tanking. Look at the Bucks.

I care about them as players - but their trade value this year is meaningless. They aren't going to be traded.

Brad might turn out to be a wiz with this group, but developing a roster full of feel good stories isn't going to get this team back to contention. We need top end talent. Rondo was one and could lure others. Now that he's gone, the draft is the only place to get the top shelf guys.

If the plan is to ride to 40ish wins on starless teams that "play the right way," color me less than enthused.

Rondo... top shelf? That's delusional talk right there. Rondo is a second tier PG... Curry, Westbrook, Parker, Paul and Wall are in another stratosphere from this dude. And then you have a bunch of guys in that second tier who are better than Rondo.

And that's just PG's. Dude hardly moves the needle on EITHER end of the court at this point.

Excellent passer. Feisty competitor. Exceptional rebounder for his size. Good team defender.

But he's a liability at the line, from the field, and has no diversity to his scoring game whatsoever.

The idea that he gave the Celtics a chance to attract a star is a laughable concept.

Just give it up with this storyline Rondo fans, please, it's pathetic.

[soxfan2003]

Just out of interest does anyone think Rondo's play was going to improve over the next two or three years with the Celtics, let alone this season? Personally I don't think it was going to happen.

Could Ainge have gotten a better deal? Maybe, but unlikely due to his free agent status as if there was a better deal out there then it would have happened. Was it going to be an ongoing issue and distraction for the team, coaching staff etc if he remained with the team? Very likely.

You make some good points. I actually think if Rondo had stayed with Boston that is his play would have improved this year from what he has performed so far but not enough that it would have made sense to keep him going forward.

I fault Ainge for not trading him a few years ago but Ainge did good a good job given the current situation. Waiting until the actual deadline was too risky the more I think about it since what happens if Dirk gets hurt? Dallas is probably out of the bidding and that makes it tough to trade him. What happens if Rondo gets hurt?

[FeedReed]

they can sign awful avery for a billion dollars, but rondo? nah, trade him for peanuts. humblebum is loving this. we may see bradley run the point now.

[humblebum]

Seriously guys, relax. People will want to play with Smart for some reason. What a relief.

Team USA baby!

You couldn't possibly be trying any harder right now

This is effortless.

[truth18]

Would love to hear from 165bows and Powefessional. Maybe they already posted and I missed it?

[sully00]

There has got to be some diminishing returns on the amount of first round picks you guys are getting. Like, no one wants to trade 1, higher pick for 2-3 guaranteed players/roster spots. Good luck.

Actually they do it all the time. Generally it is harder for teams to give up 2 or 3 lottery tickets for 1. I am not talking top 5 but once you move to the late lottery teams are always looking to go 1 for 2. The bigger option Ainge has to swap picks for an extra pick the next year. Good problem to have.

[soxfan2003]

I don't think Rondo is this team's best player. I think he has been awful this year and essentially proved he can't be the best player of a team. This team was a 9-14 with Rondo and without.

Whether Green stays or goes isn't essential but saying who cares about Smart, Sully, and KO is a joke that is all that matters. That is what this is all about now what can Brad Stevens do with the young talent he is given. It is about talent development not tanking. Look at the Bucks.

I care about them as players - but their trade value this year is meaningless. They aren't going to be traded.

Brad might turn out to be a wiz with this group, but developing a roster full of feel good stories isn't going to get this team back to contention. We need top end talent. Rondo was one and could lure others. Now that he's gone, the draft is the only place to get the top shelf guys.

If the plan is to ride to 40ish wins on starless teams that "play the right way," color me less than enthused.

Rondo... top shelf? That's delusional talk right there. Rondo is a second tier PG... Curry, Westbrook, Parker, Paul and Wall are in another stratosphere from this dude. And then you have a bunch of guys in that second tier who are better than Rondo.

And that's just PG's. Dude hardly moves the needle on EITHER end of the court at this point.

Excellent passer. Feisty competitor. Exceptional rebounder for his size. Good team defender.

But he's a liability at the line, from the field, and has no diversity to his scoring game whatsoever.

The idea that he gave the Celtics a chance to attract a star is a laughable concept.

Just give it up with this storyline Rondo fans, please, it's pathetic.

You make some good points but Dallas is obviously betting he is a better with with them -- which he is -- and on a rejuvenation..

I do think in the "right circumstances" even if I thought his performance was overrated, Rondo after the 2011-12 playoffs could have helped a Celtics team with cap room attract a star via FA. Rondo was being "hyped up" then nationally and entered the 2012-13 as the 12th best NBA player according to ESPN consensus opinion of "experts". I never agreed with that ranking but his national reputation at that point peaked.

Present day Rondo.... was not likely to bring any legit star to Boston. Love said Rondo was a good player but I never bought for a single second that Love was would think Rondo was a big time star and that much better of a bet than Rubio moving forward. Love would have been betting on Ainge/Stevens and the other assets the Celtics have.

And frankly a near max contract to Rondo and a max contract to Love is not something I would really get excited about.

[sully00]

Just out of interest does anyone think Rondo's play was going to improve over the next two or three years with the Celtics, let alone this season? Personally I don't think it was going to happen.

Could Ainge have gotten a better deal? Maybe, but unlikely due to his free agent status as if there was a better deal out there then it would have happened. Was it going to be an ongoing issue and distraction for the team, coaching staff etc if he remained with the team? Very likely.

You make some good points. I actually think if Rondo had stayed with Boston that is his play would have improved this year from what he has performed so far but not enough that it would have made sense to keep him going forward.

I fault Ainge for not trading him a few years ago but Ainge did good a good job given the current situation. Waiting until the actual deadline was too risky the more I think about it since what happens if Dirk gets hurt? Dallas is probably out of the bidding and that makes it tough to trade him. What happens if Rondo gets hurt?

When should he have dealt him? 5 mins before he blew his knee out?

[Egregiousness]

unless this is prelude to a getting a star guard in boston, the next shoe has to be green. I love what he has become this year, but keeping him on this team when he will just bolt in the offseason makes zero sense.

[humblebum]

I care about them as players - but their trade value this year is meaningless. They aren't going to be traded.

Brad might turn out to be a wiz with this group, but developing a roster full of feel good stories isn't going to get this team back to contention. We need top end talent. Rondo was one and could lure others. Now that he's gone, the draft is the only place to get the top shelf guys.

If the plan is to ride to 40ish wins on starless teams that "play the right way," color me less than enthused.

Rondo... top shelf? That's delusional talk right there. Rondo is a second tier PG... Curry, Westbrook, Parker, Paul and Wall are in another stratosphere from this dude. And then you have a bunch of guys in that second tier who are better than Rondo.

And that's just PG's. Dude hardly moves the needle on EITHER end of the court at this point.

Excellent passer. Feisty competitor. Exceptional rebounder for his size. Good team defender.

But he's a liability at the line, from the field, and has no diversity to his scoring game whatsoever.

The idea that he gave the Celtics a chance to attract a star is a laughable concept.

Just give it up with this storyline Rondo fans, please, it's pathetic.

You make some good points but Dallas is obviously betting he is a better with with them -- which he is -- and on a rejuvenation..

I do think in the "right circumstances" even if I thought his performance was overrated, Rondo after the 2011-12 playoffs could have helped a Celtics team with cap room attract a star via FA. Rondo was being "hyped up" then nationally and entered the 2012-13 as the 12th best NBA player according to ESPN consensus opinion of "experts". I never agreed with that ranking but his national reputation at that point peaked.

Present day Rondo.... was not likely to bring any legit star to Boston. Love said Rondo was a good player but I never bought for a single second that Love was would think Rondo was a big time star and that much better of a bet than Rubio moving forward. Love would have been betting on Ainge/Stevens and the other assets the Celtics have.

And frankly a near max contract to Rondo and a max contract to Love is not something I would really get excited about.

Look, we are talking about Ainge here. This dude explores ALL POSSIBILITIES.

I'm not even a Rondo fan and I was on board with adding Love and really maximizing what Rondo does well and trying to up quick the rebuild.

But reality sunk in. The NBA rigged the Lebron return to Cleveland by gifting them Wiggins and in turn Love. Then Rondo stepped on the court and reminded me of just how limited he is.

Still those limitations will be masked once again by playing with a dominant perimeter threat in the frontcourt in Dirk. Just a great complementary piece for Rondo. And Chandler fits that mold of a dive guy on the PnR. Parsons will help space the floor. Just a really good fit for Rajon.

Remains to be seen just how much money Rondo wants and how the Mavs will fit all these soon to be FA's under the cap. But having Dirk making 8 million or whatever absurd contract should help.

I wish him well in Dallas... just not buying him moving the needle here in Boston given the constraints of their rebuilding situation.

[rickrolled]

Since we got the Mavs players using our TPE.s do the Mavs get a TPE worth 8.4 million ?

They could get a servicable backup big with that type of money, maybe Mahinmi or something...