Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go

[FrodoFraggins]

Can they trade brad and his contract to a team better suited to his skills? Namely a young team without egos.

[Bleeding Green]

No.

[greenroom31]

Can they trade brad and his contract to a team better suited to his skills? Namely a young team without egos.

You mean like a college team where he can call players’ parents to tattle on them if they don’t do what he asks of them?

[FrodoFraggins]

Can they trade brad and his contract to a team better suited to his skills? Namely a young team without egos.

You mean like a college team where he can call players’ parents to tattle on them if they don’t do what he asks of them?

Like the team we had before Kyrie arrived. He couldn't handle Kyrie, has failed to control the locker room multiple times and now can't get players to care. I guess being Mr. Rogers 24/7 only goes so far in the NBA. I wouldn't get motivated by the dude that's for sure. He's just weird and unrelatable.

[FrodoFraggins]

No.

How did it work with Doc Rivers? Didn't the celts get compensation? I assume you need to get the coaches consent.

[Bleeding Green]

Doc wanted to go to coach for Donald Sterling. If Stevens wants to go coach somewhere and the other organization wants him at whatever contract he has, sure, I guess he can be traded.

[flintsky21]

What a life. To do whatever you want at your job (or do nothing at all!) and have absolutely no repercussions.

[Gomes3PC]

What a life. To do whatever you want at your job (or do nothing at all!) and have absolutely no repercussions.

Not sure what you mean by "no repercussions."

The fact is, since Ainge came here, the Celtics have won more games than any franchise except for San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Miami and Golden State. In that span of time, we are one of only seven teams to win a title. We also reached another finals and reached the ECF seven times.

By any reasonable measure, we have been one of the ~5 best franchises of the last 15 years, despite never having the true #1 or #2 best player in the NBA during that stretch, which is usually the bar-none indicator of title contention.

Ainge has his flaws, and at some point it will be time to part ways, but I am not ready to just dump the guy for having a rough offseason in the weirdest year in NBA history. This situation is also fixable - it's not like we're painted into a corner and Tatum/Brown are demanding trades.

Lastly, he's clearly admitted culpability here. Just listen to his radio interviews - he knows he didn't hit the mark this offseason and the team is not gelling. If he were up there pointing fingers or refusing to take responsibility, I'd be more worried about whether he realizes there is fixing needing to be done.

[grantlongforpresident]

What a life. To do whatever you want at your job (or do nothing at all!) and have absolutely no repercussions.

Not sure what you mean by "no repercussions."

The fact is, since Ainge came here, the Celtics have won more games than any franchise except for San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Miami and Golden State. In that span of time, we are one of only seven teams to win a title. We also reached another finals and reached the ECF seven times.

By any reasonable measure, we have been one of the ~5 best franchises of the last 15 years, despite never having the true #1 or #2 best player in the NBA during that stretch, which is usually the bar-none indicator of title contention.

Ainge has his flaws, and at some point it will be time to part ways, but I am not ready to just dump the guy for having a rough offseason in the weirdest year in NBA history. This situation is also fixable - it's not like we're painted into a corner and Tatum/Brown are demanding trades.

Lastly, he's clearly admitted culpability here. Just listen to his radio interviews - he knows he didn't hit the mark this offseason and the team is not gelling. If he were up there pointing fingers or refusing to take responsibility, I'd be more worried about whether he realizes there is fixing needing to be done.

Great post.

[flintsky21]

What a life. To do whatever you want at your job (or do nothing at all!) and have absolutely no repercussions.

Not sure what you mean by "no repercussions."

The fact is, since Ainge came here, the Celtics have won more games than any franchise except for San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Miami and Golden State. In that span of time, we are one of only seven teams to win a title. We also reached another finals and reached the ECF seven times.

By any reasonable measure, we have been one of the ~5 best franchises of the last 15 years, despite never having the true #1 or #2 best player in the NBA during that stretch, which is usually the bar-none indicator of title contention.

Ainge has his flaws, and at some point it will be time to part ways, but I am not ready to just dump the guy for having a rough offseason in the weirdest year in NBA history. This situation is also fixable - it's not like we're painted into a corner and Tatum/Brown are demanding trades.

Lastly, he's clearly admitted culpability here. Just listen to his radio interviews - he knows he didn't hit the mark this offseason and the team is not gelling. If he were up there pointing fingers or refusing to take responsibility, I'd be more worried about whether he realizes there is fixing needing to be done.

Sure he did a good job in bringing the big 3 in here. But in the post big 3 area, how much of the team's success have been due to Brad making the best of whatever he's given as opposed to Danny's workings as a GM? The team got to the ECF 3 times in the last 5 years which were all arguably overachievements given the composition of those teams.

Ainge wants to masquerade this team as a legit contender, but all his moves are of the exact opposite. Choosing to hold on to his 6 1st round picks in the last 2 years(while doing a subpar job in drafting), and choosing to round out the team with rookie contract guys. Mishandling the departure of not 1, not 2, but 3 max contract guys. Refusing to address in the offseason the very glaring flaws of the previous season.

The worst thing is that when push finally comes to shove, it will be Brad that will be first to go.

[Stadium5]

What a life. To do whatever you want at your job (or do nothing at all!) and have absolutely no repercussions.

Ainge has his flaws, and at some point it will be time to part ways, but I am not ready to just dump the guy for having a rough offseason in the weirdest year in NBA history. This situation is also fixable - it's not like we're painted into a corner and Tatum/Brown are demanding trades.

Oh this is coming for sure if things don't change quick.

They're tired of Brad and tired of danny surrounding them with trash talent.

We have a Celts talking head going on the radio pinning it on our 2 best players...The same guy that has that cringey soundbite from a few years back.

"I can't think of anyone of the top of my head short of Lebron James, few other big names like that - Kevin Durant, that I would consider trading Avery Bradley for. I know that sounds outrageous but I just wouldn't do it. We've seen in the last week what his presence can do"

The Celts front office org and talking heads are obsessed with trash players

[Fierce1]

Oh this is coming for sure if things don't change quick.

They're tired of Brad and tired of danny surrounding them with trash talent.

We have a Celts talking head going on the radio pinning it on our 2 best players...The same guy that has that cringey soundbite from a few years back.

"I can't think of anyone of the top of my head short of Lebron James, few other big names like that - Kevin Durant, that I would consider trading Avery Bradley for. I know that sounds outrageous but I just wouldn't do it. We've seen in the last week what his presence can do"

The Celts front office org and talking heads are obsessed with trash players

If Tatum and Brown want to leave then let them leave.

Celtic fans waited 21 years to see the Celtics again in the finals in 2008.

Last time the Celts were in the finals was in 2010.

Looks like the next time the Celts will be in the finals again will be in 2031.

Players should not be able to hold a franchise hostage.

The Celtic owners can do what they want to do with their team because it's their team.

It's the fans that should stop paying to watch Celtic games so that the owners will be forced to make a move.

As long as the Celts are making money, nothing's going to change.

[BK_2020]

Jaylen and even Tatum aren't good enough players that they get to dictate how a franchise is run. Think of all the negative things people on this board said about Harden, a top 3 all-time scorer, was holding his franchise hostage. Now the talk is about how if Jaylen **** Brown wants things a certain way we should accommodate him. Lmfao.

[Gomes3PC]

What a life. To do whatever you want at your job (or do nothing at all!) and have absolutely no repercussions.

Ainge has his flaws, and at some point it will be time to part ways, but I am not ready to just dump the guy for having a rough offseason in the weirdest year in NBA history. This situation is also fixable - it's not like we're painted into a corner and Tatum/Brown are demanding trades.

Oh this is coming for sure if things don't change quick.

They're tired of Brad and tired of danny surrounding them with trash talent.

We have a Celts talking head going on the radio pinning it on our 2 best players...The same guy that has that cringey soundbite from a few years back.

"I can't think of anyone of the top of my head short of Lebron James, few other big names like that - Kevin Durant, that I would consider trading Avery Bradley for. I know that sounds outrageous but I just wouldn't do it. We've seen in the last week what his presence can do"

The Celts front office org and talking heads are obsessed with trash players

LOL what? Tatum just signed a max deal. He and Brown are gonna ask out with 4+ years left on their deals?

Sure, if we don't make progress 18 months from now, I could see dissatisfaction setting in, but that's the nature of the NBA. If you're not getting better, you're falling behind and eventually you will need an overhaul.

[Stadium5]

Ainge has his flaws, and at some point it will be time to part ways, but I am not ready to just dump the guy for having a rough offseason in the weirdest year in NBA history. This situation is also fixable - it's not like we're painted into a corner and Tatum/Brown are demanding trades.

Oh this is coming for sure if things don't change quick.

They're tired of Brad and tired of danny surrounding them with trash talent.

We have a Celts talking head going on the radio pinning it on our 2 best players...The same guy that has that cringey soundbite from a few years back.

"I can't think of anyone of the top of my head short of Lebron James, few other big names like that - Kevin Durant, that I would consider trading Avery Bradley for. I know that sounds outrageous but I just wouldn't do it. We've seen in the last week what his presence can do"

The Celts front office org and talking heads are obsessed with trash players

LOL what? Tatum just signed a max deal. He and Brown are gonna ask out with 4+ years left on their deals?

Sure, if we don't make progress 18 months from now, I could see dissatisfaction setting in, but that's the nature of the NBA. If you're not getting better, you're falling behind and eventually you will need an overhaul.

I hope you don't seriously believe long term contracts even mean anything anymore in terms of player retention. If a guy wants out these days the players have all the power

[flintsky21]

Ainge has his flaws, and at some point it will be time to part ways, but I am not ready to just dump the guy for having a rough offseason in the weirdest year in NBA history. This situation is also fixable - it's not like we're painted into a corner and Tatum/Brown are demanding trades.

Oh this is coming for sure if things don't change quick.

They're tired of Brad and tired of danny surrounding them with trash talent.

We have a Celts talking head going on the radio pinning it on our 2 best players...The same guy that has that cringey soundbite from a few years back.

"I can't think of anyone of the top of my head short of Lebron James, few other big names like that - Kevin Durant, that I would consider trading Avery Bradley for. I know that sounds outrageous but I just wouldn't do it. We've seen in the last week what his presence can do"

The Celts front office org and talking heads are obsessed with trash players

LOL what? Tatum just signed a max deal. He and Brown are gonna ask out with 4+ years left on their deals?

Sure, if we don't make progress 18 months from now, I could see dissatisfaction setting in, but that's the nature of the NBA. If you're not getting better, you're falling behind and eventually you will need an overhaul.

Yeah. It's too early for Tatum and Brown to reach that point, but we have to consider that compared to other "young stars," Tatum and Brown have relatively had lots of success already since the start of their careers (never missing the playoffs, multiple ECFs), so it might not take as much or as long for them to be dissatisfied than say, a Devin Booker or a Karl Anthony Towns. And the future is just so unpredictable. One injury could instantly change the course of a player's career or the team. A new GSW superpower might emerge out of nowhere and then there goes your window for several years. It's stupid to "take it easy for now" just because your cornerstones are still too damn young and are contractually locked in already.

[playa-hater]

Haven't seen anyone point is out, but even if Tatum and Brown "CAN"T" demand a trade doesn't mean they won't play unhappy, unmotivated, DGAF BB during this time. Well I wouldn't see it for JB but JT has that body language all the time.

[GoGreen]

Oh this is coming for sure if things don't change quick.

They're tired of Brad and tired of danny surrounding them with trash talent.

We have a Celts talking head going on the radio pinning it on our 2 best players...The same guy that has that cringey soundbite from a few years back.

"I can't think of anyone of the top of my head short of Lebron James, few other big names like that - Kevin Durant, that I would consider trading Avery Bradley for. I know that sounds outrageous but I just wouldn't do it. We've seen in the last week what his presence can do"

The Celts front office org and talking heads are obsessed with trash players

If Tatum and Brown want to leave then let them leave.

Celtic fans waited 21 years to see the Celtics again in the finals in 2008.

Last time the Celts were in the finals was in 2010.

Looks like the next time the Celts will be in the finals again will be in 2031.

Players should not be able to hold a franchise hostage.

The Celtic owners can do what they want to do with their team because it's their team.

It's the fans that should stop paying to watch Celtic games so that the owners will be forced to make a move.

As long as the Celts are making money, nothing's going to change.

This x100. Wyc I think showed his colors on that F&M interview. Someone here said the Cs have only been in the tax like once in the past 8 years or so? Cs FO are businessmen first, fans a distant second.

[BK_2020]

Teams almost never pay the luxury tax unless they are genuine contenders (GSW, Cavs during Lebron days, Lakers the last two years) or horribly mismanaged (The Thunder, Portland, Sixers last year etc.).

[gocelts]

What a life. To do whatever you want at your job (or do nothing at all!) and have absolutely no repercussions.

Not sure what you mean by "no repercussions."

The fact is, since Ainge came here, the Celtics have won more games than any franchise except for San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Miami and Golden State. In that span of time, we are one of only seven teams to win a title. We also reached another finals and reached the ECF seven times.

By any reasonable measure, we have been one of the ~5 best franchises of the last 15 years, despite never having the true #1 or #2 best player in the NBA during that stretch, which is usually the bar-none indicator of title contention.

Ainge has his flaws, and at some point it will be time to part ways, but I am not ready to just dump the guy for having a rough offseason in the weirdest year in NBA history. This situation is also fixable - it's not like we're painted into a corner and Tatum/Brown are demanding trades.

Lastly, he's clearly admitted culpability here. Just listen to his radio interviews - he knows he didn't hit the mark this offseason and the team is not gelling. If he were up there pointing fingers or refusing to take responsibility, I'd be more worried about whether he realizes there is fixing needing to be done.

there you go. Some posters do have a brain..