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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#481 » by cloverleaf » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:41 am

Brett43 wrote:Why can’t Lonzo be signed?

My plan:
Try and sign Fournier
If not, try for Lonzo
Bring over Yam Madar
Sign IT as background PG for Vet minimum
Trade TT for a sharp shooter of similar skills, since TT is NOT a scrub.
Brad can earn his salary by filling in the details


Because they can only sign EF at his salary because he was on their roster this past year.
And just how many PGs do you expect to have on the roster?
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#482 » by bucknersrevenge » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:40 pm

The obvious target for free agency in a year or 2 is certainly Beal, and logically so. But if Washington decides to trade him before losing him (which would be wise), I don't know that we could even generate the best package to do so. Point is, for a second, let's say that Beal is out. What if the answer is really Christian Wood? To help provide that inside-outside balance? How does a JT/JB/Wood trio fare in the East?
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Post#483 » by cloverleaf » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:50 pm

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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#484 » by moonie_mcgee » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:14 am

Ok got a coach. Next.

Let's assume TL is day to day and TT is moved.
That leaves Big Al, Moses, Tatum and Parker in the front court.
In the back court we have Smart Brown Fournier Nesmith and Langford.
We need to upgrade Edwards Semi GWill and Kornet.
I say we get load up with more front court players to balance out the roster.
Athletic players with size who can run shoot rebound and defend.
Juat add a few more vet players like Portis, Tucker Batum or whomever. And let it roll with a new roster and coaching staff.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#485 » by moonie_mcgee » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:18 am

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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#486 » by moonie_mcgee » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:22 am

bucknersrevenge wrote:The obvious target for free agency in a year or 2 is certainly Beal, and logically so. But if Washington decides to trade him before losing him (which would be wise), I don't know that we could even generate the best package to do so. Point is, for a second, let's say that Beal is out. What if the answer is really Christian Wood? To help provide that inside-outside balance? How does a JT/JB/Wood trio fare in the East?


Players like Moses Brown and Christian Wood are the players that'd really benefit our current core. Imagine how good we would be with athletes like these guys on the floor rather than Semi GWill and Kornet.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#487 » by moonie_mcgee » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:25 am

cloverleaf wrote:
Brett43 wrote:Why can’t Lonzo be signed?

My plan:
Try and sign Fournier
If not, try for Lonzo
Bring over Yam Madar
Sign IT as background PG for Vet minimum
Trade TT for a sharp shooter of similar skills, since TT is NOT a scrub.
Brad can earn his salary by filling in the details


Because they can only sign EF at his salary because he was on their roster this past year.
And just how many PGs do you expect to have on the roster?


3. Smart Pritch and someone else with the Israeli in the pipeline in Maine. And a big pg at that as Pritch is small and the Israeli thin.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#488 » by playa-hater » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:28 am

moonie_mcgee wrote:
bucknersrevenge wrote:The obvious target for free agency in a year or 2 is certainly Beal, and logically so. But if Washington decides to trade him before losing him (which would be wise), I don't know that we could even generate the best package to do so. Point is, for a second, let's say that Beal is out. What if the answer is really Christian Wood? To help provide that inside-outside balance? How does a JT/JB/Wood trio fare in the East?


Players like Moses Brown and Christian Wood are the players that'd really benefit our current core. Imagine how good we would be with athletes like these guys on the floor rather than Semi GWill and Kornet.


I am very hurt you put Kornet in the same sentence with the other 2.. :-?
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#489 » by moonie_mcgee » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:54 am

playa-hater wrote:
moonie_mcgee wrote:
bucknersrevenge wrote:The obvious target for free agency in a year or 2 is certainly Beal, and logically so. But if Washington decides to trade him before losing him (which would be wise), I don't know that we could even generate the best package to do so. Point is, for a second, let's say that Beal is out. What if the answer is really Christian Wood? To help provide that inside-outside balance? How does a JT/JB/Wood trio fare in the East?


Players like Moses Brown and Christian Wood are the players that'd really benefit our current core. Imagine how good we would be with athletes like these guys on the floor rather than Semi GWill and Kornet.


I am very hurt you put Kornet in the same sentence with the other 2.. :-?


Haha fine, he is a 7 footer after all. And he does play hard and competes but he's nothing like what we'll see from Moses Brown. I'm actually thinking Big Al and Moses will be on the floor together. Al on the perimeter an Moses in the lane and the baseline. If it were me right now. I'd start Smart Brown Tatum Horford Brown. That's my lineup. But I think Founier gonna screw it up. I want Fournier off the bench or not at all. If Fournier starts we won't be as strong.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#490 » by Brett43 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:57 am

cloverleaf wrote:
Brett43 wrote:Why can’t Lonzo be signed?

My plan:
Try and sign Fournier
If not, try for Lonzo
Bring over Yam Madar
Sign IT as background PG for Vet minimum
Trade TT for a sharp shooter of similar skills, since TT is NOT a scrub.
Brad can earn his salary by filling in the details


Because they can only sign EF at his salary because he was on their roster this past year.
And just how many PGs do you expect to have on the roster?


With Kemba and Waters gone, there is room for two more point guards. I didn't even mention Rondo in this post.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#491 » by bucknersrevenge » Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:42 am

moonie_mcgee wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
moonie_mcgee wrote:
Players like Moses Brown and Christian Wood are the players that'd really benefit our current core. Imagine how good we would be with athletes like these guys on the floor rather than Semi GWill and Kornet.


I am very hurt you put Kornet in the same sentence with the other 2.. :-?


Haha fine, he is a 7 footer after all. And he does play hard and competes but he's nothing like what we'll see from Moses Brown. I'm actually thinking Big Al and Moses will be on the floor together. Al on the perimeter and Moses in the lane and the baseline. If it were me right now. I'd start Smart Brown Tatum Horford Brown. That's my lineup. But I think Fournier gonna screw it up. I want Fournier off the bench or not at all. If Fournier starts we won't be as strong.


I understand the optics and all but I'm okay with letting Fournier walk. Let Nesmith and Langford duke it out during camp. Continue to develop those guys and that investment. We're gonna need some cheap talent to come through for us anyway. We'll find a less expensive shooter somewhere else (ex. McBuckets for the MLE). Meanwhile, conserve that cap space. We'll find a way to be competitive now AND still build for 2 years from now.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#492 » by bucknersrevenge » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:18 pm

Thought it was worth displaying the list of free agents that will be available in 2023, 2 years from now so people can see exactly what's at stake here. There are a lot of guys on this list who could impact this team. If it means letting Fournier walk to maintain access to this list, I'm doing it. If it means renouncing Smart when the time comes, I'll do that. But adding one of these guys to the Jay's as they enter their prime years is EVERYTHING IMHO.

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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#493 » by BK_2020 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:57 pm

A lot of the names on the list will probably opt out in 2022 free agency and sign long-term deals. Beal, Butler, Kyrie, Durant, Harden for sure. Westbrook probably. It'd be nice to get Jokic though.
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Post#494 » by Bleeding Green » Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:17 pm

Are any of those guys realistic? Maybe Beal? Jokic is never leaving Denver. And yeah, most of them opt out after next year and then just re-up. Max FA types don't really switch teams often and usually it means they are teaming up with their friends like KD/Kyrie. Or you get a broken player like with Kemba. I think I'd rather retain someone like Fournier, who will have a very tradeable salary, Smart who will have a very tradeable salary. And that allows you to trade for the next star who wants out in the next 2-3 years (Doncic, Williamson, Towns, SGA, LaVine, whoever). To let Fournier walk means the owners are cheap or you are putting all your eggs into opening a max contract slot in two years, so what happens when in two years you don't get Beal? You just had a worse roster for two seasons for no reason.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#495 » by cloverleaf » Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:24 pm

moonie_mcgee wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
Brett43 wrote:Why can’t Lonzo be signed?

My plan:
Try and sign Fournier
If not, try for Lonzo
Bring over Yam Madar
Sign IT as background PG for Vet minimum
Trade TT for a sharp shooter of similar skills, since TT is NOT a scrub.
Brad can earn his salary by filling in the details


Because they can only sign EF at his salary because he was on their roster this past year.
And just how many PGs do you expect to have on the roster?


3. Smart Pritch and someone else with the Israeli in the pipeline in Maine. And a big pg at that as Pritch is small and the Israeli thin.


I wouldn't mind shipping out Smart and bringing in a better fitting PG. I also wouldn't expect Yam to come over for any less than a 2-way deal, at least. SL will be fascinating.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#496 » by moonie_mcgee » Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:16 am

Same here. Someone who can defend and distribute, and maybe a bit quicker, more athletic.
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Post#497 » by Jammer » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:25 am

HoopsHype has ranked the Top 185 Free Agents (includes Unrestricted, Restricted and Players with Options). 7 Celtics made the list of 185, including the 2 Two-Way Players. Pretty harsh viiew.

25. Evan Fournier
60. Tristan Thompson
121. Jabari Parker
151. Semi Ojeleye
157. Luke Kornet
182. Tremont Waters
184. Tacko Fall

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2021-nba-free-agent-rankings-top-players-available-this-offseason/
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Post#498 » by Theocy » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:29 am

A lot of people will hate me for this but colin sexton is most likely getting trades.

Opinions on him ?
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Post#499 » by Fierce1 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:35 am

Nice to see Celtic fans here are now open to the idea of trading Marcus Smart.
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Post#500 » by Celtics_History_Lesson » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:29 am

Jammer wrote:HoopsHype has ranked the Top 185 Free Agents (includes Unrestricted, Restricted and Players with Options). 7 Celtics made the list of 185, including the 2 Two-Way Players. Pretty harsh viiew.

25. Evan Fournier
60. Tristan Thompson
121. Jabari Parker
151. Semi Ojeleye
157. Luke Kornet
182. Tremont Waters
184. Tacko Fall

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2021-nba-free-agent-rankings-top-players-available-this-offseason/





List is insane.

People will be sad to read that trash.

36
Kelly Olynyk / PF / Last team: Houston



The real story.

“Over his 27 games in Space City, he averaged 19 points, 8.4 rebounds, 4.1 assists and 1.8 threes. For context, only six players averaged 18 points, eight rebounds, four assists and a three this season, and they either were All-Stars or have been in the past.”



Kelly Oubre and Josh Hart are better than Olynyk, or Mitchell Robinson? What planet is this.

Serge Ibaka is 68 years old.

Oladipo? The only thing more injured than his body is his brain.

Richaun Holmes? 18.3 3P%



Shane Larkin made the list around the J Parker spot.

Z Collins, 130? The prototype of blocks and 3s, but injured a year, will be wanted more than 100 others listed before him.


At least they didn't put Tacko last. Second last.

Can't teach height. Bad Celtics coaching could not come up with one play for him.



Trade Smart.

Extending the bricklayer for $100million because a failed coach is now "President", that is crazy.

Not as crazy as punching a picture frame, and losing that fight.

See if a team will panic, give a first.

Denver, 76ers, Jazz?

OKC for pick 18? Doesn't make sense for Thunder, unless they already have their deal to move away Kemba.

Knicks have an extra pick in the first round.

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