Trade/Free Agency Thread, pt 6, 2023-24

BK_2020 · Post #481 » by **BK_2020** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:11 pm

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I remember when this bum dropped 55 on us.

Floody100 · Post #482 » by **Floody100** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:11 pm

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Post #483 » by **Froob** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:11 pm

Wonder if Porzingis deal waits til after FIBA

GotDaSauce · Post #484 » by **GotDaSauce** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:12 pm

Froob wrote:Wonder if Porzingis deal waits til after FIBA

Lets hope!

Celts17Pride · Post #485 » by **Celts17Pride** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:12 pm

Don't understand Kuzma back to the Wizards for $102 million.

Floody100 · Post #486 » by **Floody100** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:13 pm

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The_Ghost_of_JB · Post #487 » by **The_Ghost_of_JB** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:13 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Don't understand Kuzma back to the Wizards for $102 million.

I'm not sure the wizards have done anything that has made sense since I've been alive.

zoyathedestroya · Post #488 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:13 pm

Froob wrote:Wonder if Porzingis deal waits til after FIBA

July 6 first day for KP but yeah, good idea to just wait after the tournament hehe.

reload141 · Post #489 » by **reload141** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:13 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Don't understand Kuzma back to the Wizards for $102 million.

I do.

It's called "The Wizards"

:lol:

BK_2020 · Post #490 » by **BK_2020** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:13 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Don't understand Kuzma back to the Wizards for $102 million.

It doesn't hurt their tanking and they can trade him for picks.

zoyathedestroya · Post #491 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:14 pm

Suns doing quick work. Both Eubanks and Diop are underrated, undervalued players.

Celts17Pride · Post #492 » by **Celts17Pride** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:14 pm

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Celtics should have jumped on this.

poopship · Post #493 » by **poopship** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:14 pm

Bates-Diop and Eubanks are great signings for the Suns

Memokerobi · Post #494 » by **Memokerobi** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:14 pm

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Ugh, don't like this, was wishing we got him. Wonder if he left money on the table to earn a starting spot on a contending team to cash in next year with the player option

lon3lytoaster · Post #495 » by **lon3lytoaster** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:14 pm

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$5m total? Solid deal

Post #496 » by **165bows** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:14 pm

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Damn based on what people say about this guy that’s a sneaky good deal for both sides.

Higgs Boston · Post #497 » by **Higgs Boston** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:14 pm

bates diop and prince out, good luck getting a wing that can be a starter via trade.

hugepatsfan · Post #498 » by **hugepatsfan** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:14 pm

Bates-Diop to Phoenix for a minimum deal. They’re going to clean up. Good market, contending team, playing time to offer. Vet min paradise

Post #499 » by **bisme37** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:15 pm

Some reporter in Indy is saying Bruce Brown to Indy but I don't think it's properly verified yet.

Hal14 · Post #500 » by **Hal14** » Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:15 pm

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Hal14 wrote:2023: nuggets backup PG was Reggie Jackson, who sat on the bench for the entire playoff run. Murray starting PG. Brown and KC were wings.

2022: warriors backup PG was nobody. Poole is a 2, Payton was a 2. Klay is a 2/3

2021: Bucks backup PG was Bryn Forbes, who barely played in the playoffs for them (9th on the team in minutes). Pritchard is just as good as him

2020: the only had 1 PG who got minutes and it was Rondo, who only played 24 MPG in the playoffs

2019: Raptors backup PG was Vanvleet. No other PG got mins for them

The NBA has evolved. It's not like the 80's 90's and early 2000's where teams had a PG who ran the show, was the floor general, brought the ball up the floor and got into a PnR or some other set.

Now, in 2023 way more guys can handle the ball. You've got bigger dudes like Paul George, KD, Tatum and Siakam who can handle the ball out on the perimeter, initiate the offense, make slick passes, etc. With all these wings/forwards who can do this stuff (and are pretty much just as quick/mobile as most guards) you can afford to have an extra wing on the floor (and perhaps 1 less guard) like how the C's play JB at the 2 and Tatum at the 3, or how the nuggets play KCP at the 2 and MPJ at the 3 - in both scenarios, the team only has 1 traditional "guard" on the floor.

You've got many teams (like the warriors with Draymond the KIngs with Sabonis, the Nuggets with Jokic, Miami with Bam, celtics with rob and al, sixers with Embiid, etc.) who frequently run offense through their bigs out on the high post, at the elbows, beyond the 3 pt line or from the low post. Since the big is used as a playmaker, there's less of a need to have a traditional PG on the floor with them.

It's the era of positionless basketball.

Lastly, by going with bigger lineups that have only 1 guard (or 0 PGs, maybe just 1 guard who's a combo guard) you're able to overwhelm your opponent with size, you can more easily score near the basket, more easily get rebounds, it's harder for your small opponents to shoot over you, easier for you to shoot and see over the top of the defense when facing smaller teams, etc. And since in today's NBA there's way more players who can handle the ball, more players who are playmakers, more wings/forwards who move like guards, more bigs who move like forwards - you can get away with a bigger lineup that has only 1 guard (or 0 PGs, maybe just 1 guard who's a combo guard).

Good point, agree they should just go Carushow for backup combo guard.

I wouldn't hate it at all if we snagged Caruso. Tough as nails. Right in the prime of his career. All-NBA defender. Unselfish on offense. Has won a ring. Way cheaper contract than Brogdon.

And the Bulls need a PG more than a SG. Could be a good deal for both teams...