Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice!

[London2Boston]

I doubt Nike cared much. KD was a stud that's going to sell shoes regardless of where he played, just not as much as Lebron. If anything this season, Kyrie seems to be slowly making himself the Nike #2 after Lebron, so the move to The Bay didn't have much difference for them.

On that topic, Under Armour took one hell of an L in all this. Their guy went from the THE face of the NBA to pretty much second fiddle on his own team and releasing meme worthy shoes.

[BleedGreen1989]

I think they should implement some kind of rule into the CBA where you can only hand out 2 max contracts on the team. That'd make teams more careful about who they fork out the cash to and would also stop all these star clusters we keep getting like the Cavs and Golden State who each have at least 3 'max' worthy players. It'd definitely help the competitive balance of the league and also keep FA at least partly interesting, as with the new extension ability I don't see how rival teams will be able to poach any stars from FA anymore

What about the teams like GS (pre-KD) that draft well. Hurts them.

Good point but I think you could easily include a "home grown" exception.

[165bows]

Nike was paying him $300 million, regardless. Kevin Durant is one of the best offensive players ever, so long as they had the rights to his likeness for the shoe, they were happy. Nike had and has minimal influence on Durant beyond his contractual obligations.

Actually as far as I've seen the shoe deals are substantially incentive-based as opposed to guaranteed money.

The GS guys can believe what they like but I find it hard to believe the company paying the nine figure salary didn't heavily weigh into the choice Durant made. It's been reported consistently after his decision that Nike wanted him there. The whisperings of Iggy/Dray aren't particularly alluring without Curry on top of Nike megabucks heavily tilting the scales towards an attractive destination.

I'd hope that I have earned enough credit to speak on this with some degree of authority by now.

It's all good info on GS, much of which has been solid. Doesn't mean the people in the GS locker room have a monopoly on knowledge.

Either way that made the difference, Nike or Draymond, it doesn't behoove Durant one single bit to say "hey, my shoe guys said to come over here and go to the Finals 5-6 times." Durant has been nothing but savvy so far in his career, of course he is going to make those guys feel like it was all about them.

As far as the buddy-buddy stuff goes, sounds like the honeymoon lasted as long as the marriage for Green.

[165bows]

I doubt Nike cared much. KD was a stud that's going to sell shoes regardless of where he played, just not as much as Lebron. If anything this season, Kyrie seems to be slowly making himself the Nike #2 after Lebron, so the move to The Bay didn't have much difference for them.

On that topic, Under Armour took one hell of an L in all this. Their guy went from the THE face of the NBA to pretty much second fiddle on his own team and releasing meme worthy shoes.

Aren't these two paragraphs the contradiction?

[SMTBSI]

I doubt Nike cared much. KD was a stud that's going to sell shoes regardless of where he played, just not as much as Lebron. If anything this season, Kyrie seems to be slowly making himself the Nike #2 after Lebron, so the move to The Bay didn't have much difference for them.

On that topic, Under Armour took one hell of an L in all this. Their guy went from the THE face of the NBA to pretty much second fiddle on his own team and releasing meme worthy shoes.

Aren't these two paragraphs the contradiction?

Only if it's a zero-sum game, which it's not (people can just buy fewer shoes overall). But, as usual, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle; hurting a competitor certainly can't be bad for Nike.

[TheMartian]

AD with 40/18/2/3 going into the 4th against the Knicks... I know it's not realistic but damn with this guy we could legit contend.

He is going to be the best player in the world in about 2 years at age 25

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I'm with you on this brother. I'd cash in all our chips for AD and ONLY AD.

[mikestar]

AD with 40/18/2/3 going into the 4th against the Knicks... I know it's not realistic but damn with this guy we could legit contend.

He is going to be the best player in the world in about 2 years at age 25

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I'm with you on this brother. I'd cash in all our chips for AD and ONLY AD.

Co-sign.

[jfs1000d]

Marcus Smart is really a stretch 4. That's like his psyche.


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[BigSleep333]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jtjecqg

PHI out: Noel, Okafor, Ilyasova, PHI17
PHI in: McCollum, Crowder, Olynyk

CHI out: Butler, Lopez
CHI in: Okafor, Brown, Ilyasova, Johnson, BKN17, BOS18

BOS out: Brown, Crowder, Olynyk, Johnson, BKN17, BOS18
BOS in: Butler, Lopez, Quarterman

POR out: McCollum, Quarterman
POR in: Noel, PHI17

how do you like that?

[Gomes3PC]

He is going to be the best player in the world in about 2 years at age 25

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I'm with you on this brother. I'd cash in all our chips for AD and ONLY AD.

Co-sign.

Wyc could offer to swap the ownership rights with Tom Benson to get Davis and he'd probably turn it down. Davis is never leaving NOLA unless he demands it himself.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Zach Lowe is claiming Hassan Whiteside is available.

https://www.google.com/amp/nesn.com/2017/01/nba-trade-rumors-no-heat-player-untouchable-not-even-hassan-whiteside/amp/?client=ms-android-att-us

[Tiny ball]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jtjecqg

PHI out: Noel, Okafor, Ilyasova, PHI17
PHI in: McCollum, Crowder, Olynyk

CHI out: Butler, Lopez
CHI in: Okafor, Brown, Ilyasova, Johnson, BKN17, BOS18

BOS out: Brown, Crowder, Olynyk, Johnson, BKN17, BOS18
BOS in: Butler, Lopez, Quarterman

POR out: McCollum, Quarterman
POR in: Noel, PHI17

how do you like that?

I hate it.

[GoCeltics123]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jtjecqg

PHI out: Noel, Okafor, Ilyasova, PHI17
PHI in: McCollum, Crowder, Olynyk

CHI out: Butler, Lopez
CHI in: Okafor, Brown, Ilyasova, Johnson, BKN17, BOS18

BOS out: Brown, Crowder, Olynyk, Johnson, BKN17, BOS18
BOS in: Butler, Lopez, Quarterman

POR out: McCollum, Quarterman
POR in: Noel, PHI17

how do you like that?

That's a little bit of an overpay for Jimmy G Buckets but not bad at all

[brackdan70]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jtjecqg

PHI out: Noel, Okafor, Ilyasova, PHI17
PHI in: McCollum, Crowder, Olynyk

CHI out: Butler, Lopez
CHI in: Okafor, Brown, Ilyasova, Johnson, BKN17, BOS18

BOS out: Brown, Crowder, Olynyk, Johnson, BKN17, BOS18
BOS in: Butler, Lopez, Quarterman

POR out: McCollum, Quarterman
POR in: Noel, PHI17

how do you like that?

I think including two many teams bleeds value.
if Jimmy is available I think Boston can deal direct and pay less.

[reload141]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/244552/DeMarcus-Cousins-Intends-To-Sign-$207M-Extension-With-Kings-In-Offseason

DeMarcus Cousins intends to sign a contract extension with the Sacramento Kings worth an estimated $207 million over five years.

Cousins and the Kings have discussed numbers and a deal will be done in the offseason barring a late change in direction by either side.

Under the new CBA, Cousins is in line for the league’s designated player exception, which allows Sacramento to give their franchise cornerstone an additional five-years on top of his current deal, keeping him with the Kings through the 22-23 season.

Cousins can sign for a starting salary up to 35 percent of the salary cap.

Cousins previously signed a four-year max contract in September of 2013 that was set to expire in 2018.

Well now.... money talks!

[Captain_Caveman]

Actually as far as I've seen the shoe deals are substantially incentive-based as opposed to guaranteed money.

The GS guys can believe what they like but I find it hard to believe the company paying the nine figure salary didn't heavily weigh into the choice Durant made. It's been reported consistently after his decision that Nike wanted him there. The whisperings of Iggy/Dray aren't particularly alluring without Curry on top of Nike megabucks heavily tilting the scales towards an attractive destination.

I'd hope that I have earned enough credit to speak on this with some degree of authority by now.

It's all good info on GS, much of which has been solid. Doesn't mean the people in the GS locker room have a monopoly on knowledge.

Either way that made the difference, Nike or Draymond, it doesn't behoove Durant one single bit to say "hey, my shoe guys said to come over here and go to the Finals 5-6 times." Durant has been nothing but savvy so far in his career, of course he is going to make those guys feel like it was all about them.

As far as the buddy-buddy stuff goes, sounds like the honeymoon lasted as long as the marriage for Green.

Right on, but it's not "locker room" people. I just think the Nike thing is overstated, and something I never even heard mentioned. I mean, has anyone even come up with a way that they benefitted from him choosing GS over Boston?

[FlatearthZorro]

Zach Lowe is claiming Hassan Whiteside is available.

https://www.google.com/amp/nesn.com/2017/01/nba-trade-rumors-no-heat-player-untouchable-not-even-hassan-whiteside/amp/?client=ms-android-att-us

To me Whiteside is up there behind Cousins and AD when it comes to centers. Heat will ask for something ridiculous.

[FlatearthZorro]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/244552/DeMarcus-Cousins-Intends-To-Sign-$207M-Extension-With-Kings-In-Offseason

DeMarcus Cousins intends to sign a contract extension with the Sacramento Kings worth an estimated $207 million over five years.

Cousins and the Kings have discussed numbers and a deal will be done in the offseason barring a late change in direction by either side.

Under the new CBA, Cousins is in line for the league’s designated player exception, which allows Sacramento to give their franchise cornerstone an additional five-years on top of his current deal, keeping him with the Kings through the 22-23 season.

Cousins can sign for a starting salary up to 35 percent of the salary cap.

Cousins previously signed a four-year max contract in September of 2013 that was set to expire in 2018.

Well now.... money talks!

I wrote that Cousins will sign extension with the Kings 10 pages ago. No way he passes on nearly 210 mils.. He has to be crazy to..

[Bill Lumbergh]

Just 4 more days until Danny will have his full complement of trade chips (I'm looking at you Tyler.) Can't wait to see what will happen.

[Avalanche]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/244552/DeMarcus-Cousins-Intends-To-Sign-$207M-Extension-With-Kings-In-Offseason

DeMarcus Cousins intends to sign a contract extension with the Sacramento Kings worth an estimated $207 million over five years.

Cousins and the Kings have discussed numbers and a deal will be done in the offseason barring a late change in direction by either side.

Under the new CBA, Cousins is in line for the league’s designated player exception, which allows Sacramento to give their franchise cornerstone an additional five-years on top of his current deal, keeping him with the Kings through the 22-23 season.

Cousins can sign for a starting salary up to 35 percent of the salary cap.

Cousins previously signed a four-year max contract in September of 2013 that was set to expire in 2018.

Well now.... money talks!

This is another reason why the Brooklyn picks are so valuable, the new CBA makes keeping your own stars so much easier.