The Kyrie thread - he probably doesnt bleed green

[OldCeltics]

feel the opposite. The idea of Kyrie leaving is 100% laughable

I want him to stay, but why would he?

Positives -
1. He likes to play for Stevens

Negatives -
1. Early exit in playoffs
2. No other all-stars on the team
3. He's had a turbulent year, arguing with team mates
4. Going off on rants to the media
5. Has no real friends on the team
6. He never wanted to be traded to Boston in the first place, we weren't on his list
7. Keen play with another super star like Durant next year

I think it's a 100% certainty we get AD if we want him. I think Kyrie would choose to play with a team with Horford, Hayward and AD over a trash team with KD. Also its been proven time and time again that point 6 is not true.

You know Pelicans got a competent new GM right? First of all he'll ask the moon for AD, literally all our assets. More importantly their is a strong chance AD might resign with Pelicans. Situation has changed.

Also if we trade for AD strong chance Al goes in that trade.

Also point 6 was never disproven, more like damage controlled.

[brackdan70]

I fell off the Kyrie Bandwagon and got my foot run over by the back wheel.

[ajones9219]

I want him to stay, but why would he?

Positives -
1. He likes to play for Stevens

Negatives -
1. Early exit in playoffs
2. No other all-stars on the team
3. He's had a turbulent year, arguing with team mates
4. Going off on rants to the media
5. Has no real friends on the team
6. He never wanted to be traded to Boston in the first place, we weren't on his list
7. Keen play with another super star like Durant next year

I think it's a 100% certainty we get AD if we want him. I think Kyrie would choose to play with a team with Horford, Hayward and AD over a trash team with KD. Also its been proven time and time again that point 6 is not true.

His last big contract can give him the chance to play with his best friend near where he grew up.

I don't think he gives one **** about how good the respective teams are

except Kyrie himself has downplayed the New York connection and most NBA players don't want to go home, even though for some reason people can't accept that. I certainly would not

[King Ken]

feel the opposite. The idea of Kyrie leaving is 100% laughable

I want him to stay, but why would he?

Positives -
1. He likes to play for Stevens

Negatives -
1. Early exit in playoffs
2. No other all-stars on the team
3. He's had a turbulent year, arguing with team mates
4. Going off on rants to the media
5. Has no real friends on the team
6. He never wanted to be traded to Boston in the first place, we weren't on his list
7. Keen play with another super star like Durant next year

I think it's a 100% certainty we get AD if we want him. I think Kyrie would choose to play with a team with Horford, Hayward and AD over a trash team with KD. Also its been proven time and time again that point 6 is not true.

What if he just wants to leave and go to NY. That was always one of his teams when no one but KP was there. Realistically, you have a shot but convincing NO to wait till FA to trade Tatum likely isn't going to go well but we will see.

[Dangit]

This guy is a cancer plain and simple....

I'll take Kemba and Rondo on a 1 year anyday...

[ajones9219]

I want him to stay, but why would he?

Positives -
1. He likes to play for Stevens

Negatives -
1. Early exit in playoffs
2. No other all-stars on the team
3. He's had a turbulent year, arguing with team mates
4. Going off on rants to the media
5. Has no real friends on the team
6. He never wanted to be traded to Boston in the first place, we weren't on his list
7. Keen play with another super star like Durant next year

I think it's a 100% certainty we get AD if we want him. I think Kyrie would choose to play with a team with Horford, Hayward and AD over a trash team with KD. Also its been proven time and time again that point 6 is not true.

What if he just wants to leave and go to NY. That was always one of his teams when no one but KP was there. Realistically, you have a shot but convincing NO to wait till FA to trade Tatum likely isn't going to go well but we will see.

No need to wait, you could make the trade in principal as soon as next week, though I suspect NO will wait until after the lottery

[ajones9219]

I want him to stay, but why would he?

Positives -
1. He likes to play for Stevens

Negatives -
1. Early exit in playoffs
2. No other all-stars on the team
3. He's had a turbulent year, arguing with team mates
4. Going off on rants to the media
5. Has no real friends on the team
6. He never wanted to be traded to Boston in the first place, we weren't on his list
7. Keen play with another super star like Durant next year

I think it's a 100% certainty we get AD if we want him. I think Kyrie would choose to play with a team with Horford, Hayward and AD over a trash team with KD. Also its been proven time and time again that point 6 is not true.

You know Pelicans got a new GM right, a competent one? First of all he'll ask the moon for AD, literally all our assets. More importantly their is a strong chance AD might resign with Pelicans. Situation has changed.

Also if we trade for AD strong chance Al goes in that trade.

Also point 6 was never disproven, more like damage controlled.

Disagree on point 6. It was disproven and put to bed imo. I think you are far overplaying the odds of AD re-signing. Dude was rolling in with a "that's all folks" shirt. Dude is not coming back, too much has happened. I think the trade ends up being Tatum, Brown, filler of some sort, picks including memphis. If Griffin wants more I challenge him to find it

[Celts17Pride]

I’m predicting Kyrie goes with Kawhi to the LA Clippers.

[King Ken]

I think it's a 100% certainty we get AD if we want him. I think Kyrie would choose to play with a team with Horford, Hayward and AD over a trash team with KD. Also its been proven time and time again that point 6 is not true.

What if he just wants to leave and go to NY. That was always one of his teams when no one but KP was there. Realistically, you have a shot but convincing NO to wait till FA to trade Tatum likely isn't going to go well but we will see.

No need to wait, you could make the trade in principal as soon as next week, though I suspect NO will wait until after the lottery

Ainge is just dying to trade Tatum for a potential rental. Would be one of the most foolish things he could do. Would completely change the FA landscape in 2020 and if Kyrie leaves, Boston just killed their future. If I am Boston, I am doing three things:

1. Getting rid of Hayward's contract by any means. He eats up way too much cap to be just an decent player at this stage.
2. Not getting on Rozier bad side, he might be your top FA choice.
3. Not overacting. If Kyrie wants to stay, I'll trade for AD but if he wants to leave or just test FA, you have no choice but to NOT make a trade.

If I am Boston, I am focused on just building wisely. No more bad FA contracts. Just smart signings like the Marcus Smart deal and the Crowder/Avery Bradley deal. Smart contracts are what's critical in 2019. Especially when you got a glue piece like Horford.

[ajones9219]

What if he just wants to leave and go to NY. That was always one of his teams when no one but KP was there. Realistically, you have a shot but convincing NO to wait till FA to trade Tatum likely isn't going to go well but we will see.

No need to wait, you could make the trade in principal as soon as next week, though I suspect NO will wait until after the lottery

Ainge is just dying to trade Tatum for a potential rental. Would be one of the most foolish things he could do. Would completely change the FA landscape in 2020 and if Kyrie leaves, Boston just killed their future. If I am Boston, I am doing three things:

1. Getting rid of Hayward's contract by any means. He eats up way too much cap to be just an decent player at this stage.
2. Not getting on Rozier bad side, he might be your top FA choice.
3. Not overacting. If Kyrie wants to stay, I'll trade for AD but if he wants to leave or just test FA, you have no choice but to NOT make a trade.

If I am Boston, I am focused on just building wisely. No more bad FA contracts. Just smart signings like the Marcus Smart deal and the Crowder/Avery Bradley deal. Smart contracts are what's critical in 2019. Especially when you got a glue piece like Horford.

Nah, AInge is certain he can get Kyrie back. I expect him to make a big time gamble

[King Ken]

I think it's a 100% certainty we get AD if we want him. I think Kyrie would choose to play with a team with Horford, Hayward and AD over a trash team with KD. Also its been proven time and time again that point 6 is not true.

You know Pelicans got a new GM right, a competent one? First of all he'll ask the moon for AD, literally all our assets. More importantly their is a strong chance AD might resign with Pelicans. Situation has changed.

Also if we trade for AD strong chance Al goes in that trade.

Also point 6 was never disproven, more like damage controlled.

Disagree on point 6. It was disproven and put to bed imo. I think you are far overplaying the odds of AD re-signing. Dude was rolling in with a "that's all folks" shirt. Dude is not coming back, too much has happened. I think the trade ends up being Tatum, Brown, filler of some sort, picks including memphis. If Griffin wants more I challenge him to find it

You are really stanning. You remind me of me when Al Horford was a FA. I was like, no chance in hell he would leave. We will pay him. He is our franchise. We are building and we have Bud. My man took less money to go to a better fit and if KD would have stayed, he would have went to OKC.

[Celts17Pride]

Everyone can GTFO with the anti-Kyrie bs. He has had a bad series, people just love to hate this dude for some reason man. What's funny is a lot of the same people will be pumping their chests when he re-signs this summer on a roster with Davis

Not me. Never been a Kyrie guy.

[King Ken]

No need to wait, you could make the trade in principal as soon as next week, though I suspect NO will wait until after the lottery

Ainge is just dying to trade Tatum for a potential rental. Would be one of the most foolish things he could do. Would completely change the FA landscape in 2020 and if Kyrie leaves, Boston just killed their future. If I am Boston, I am doing three things:

1. Getting rid of Hayward's contract by any means. He eats up way too much cap to be just an decent player at this stage.
2. Not getting on Rozier bad side, he might be your top FA choice.
3. Not overacting. If Kyrie wants to stay, I'll trade for AD but if he wants to leave or just test FA, you have no choice but to NOT make a trade.

If I am Boston, I am focused on just building wisely. No more bad FA contracts. Just smart signings like the Marcus Smart deal and the Crowder/Avery Bradley deal. Smart contracts are what's critical in 2019. Especially when you got a glue piece like Horford.

Nah, AInge is certain he can get Kyrie back. I expect him to make a big time gamble

You are certain, but Ainge likely isn't. I get it, you focused this entire offseason on Kyrie/AD but that was always a dream to be honest until Kyrie decides he wants to lock in.

[ajones9219]

You know Pelicans got a new GM right, a competent one? First of all he'll ask the moon for AD, literally all our assets. More importantly their is a strong chance AD might resign with Pelicans. Situation has changed.

Also if we trade for AD strong chance Al goes in that trade.

Also point 6 was never disproven, more like damage controlled.

Disagree on point 6. It was disproven and put to bed imo. I think you are far overplaying the odds of AD re-signing. Dude was rolling in with a "that's all folks" shirt. Dude is not coming back, too much has happened. I think the trade ends up being Tatum, Brown, filler of some sort, picks including memphis. If Griffin wants more I challenge him to find it

You are really stanning. You remind me of me when Al Horford was a FA. I was like, no chance in hell he would leave. We will pay him. He is our franchise. We are building and we have Bud. My man took less money to go to a better fit and if KD would have stayed, he would have went to OKC.

I'm not arguing loyalty. I'm arguing Boston is still the best fit if you make a few moves

[ajones9219]

Ainge is just dying to trade Tatum for a potential rental. Would be one of the most foolish things he could do. Would completely change the FA landscape in 2020 and if Kyrie leaves, Boston just killed their future. If I am Boston, I am doing three things:

1. Getting rid of Hayward's contract by any means. He eats up way too much cap to be just an decent player at this stage.
2. Not getting on Rozier bad side, he might be your top FA choice.
3. Not overacting. If Kyrie wants to stay, I'll trade for AD but if he wants to leave or just test FA, you have no choice but to NOT make a trade.

If I am Boston, I am focused on just building wisely. No more bad FA contracts. Just smart signings like the Marcus Smart deal and the Crowder/Avery Bradley deal. Smart contracts are what's critical in 2019. Especially when you got a glue piece like Horford.

Nah, AInge is certain he can get Kyrie back. I expect him to make a big time gamble

You are certain, but Ainge likely isn't. I get it, you focused this entire offseason on Kyrie/AD but that was always a dream to be honest until Kyrie decides he wants to lock in.

lol besides Ainge literally saying so himself, he also didn't even entertain trading Kyrie at the deadline. If he had any doubt that Kyrie would leave he would have shipped him. Ainge never lets guys walk for free that have value

[CSL_1904]

My body is ready for the tanking. It's time to accept that this rebuild has failed miserably and move on to try and find a true superstar.

This is probably not the appropriate time to say it, but Danny should not be overseeing the new rebuild.

[StojkoVrankovic]

Nah, AInge is certain he can get Kyrie back. I expect him to make a big time gamble

You are certain, but Ainge likely isn't. I get it, you focused this entire offseason on Kyrie/AD but that was always a dream to be honest until Kyrie decides he wants to lock in.

lol besides Ainge literally saying so himself, he also didn't even entertain trading Kyrie at the deadline. If he had any doubt that Kyrie would leave he would have shipped him. Ainge never lets guys walk for free that have value

why on earth would you hang your hat on this? means nothing

[ajones9219]

You are certain, but Ainge likely isn't. I get it, you focused this entire offseason on Kyrie/AD but that was always a dream to be honest until Kyrie decides he wants to lock in.

lol besides Ainge literally saying so himself, he also didn't even entertain trading Kyrie at the deadline. If he had any doubt that Kyrie would leave he would have shipped him. Ainge never lets guys walk for free that have value

why on earth would you hang your hat on this? means nothing

the entire history of Ainge as a gm. It's stronger evidence than ANY suggesting Kyrie is leaving. In fact I challenge you to find any credible evidence at all

[grindtime22]

I want him to stay, but why would he?

Positives -
1. He likes to play for Stevens

Negatives -
1. Early exit in playoffs
2. No other all-stars on the team
3. He's had a turbulent year, arguing with team mates
4. Going off on rants to the media
5. Has no real friends on the team
6. He never wanted to be traded to Boston in the first place, we weren't on his list
7. Keen play with another super star like Durant next year

I think it's a 100% certainty we get AD if we want him. I think Kyrie would choose to play with a team with Horford, Hayward and AD over a trash team with KD. Also its been proven time and time again that point 6 is not true.

You know Pelicans got a competent new GM right? First of all he'll ask the moon for AD, literally all our assets. More importantly their is a strong chance AD might resign with Pelicans. Situation has changed.

Also if we trade for AD strong chance Al goes in that trade.

Also point 6 was never disproven, more like damage controlled.

Point 6

Kyrie waived his trade kicker (5.8 million dollars) to get a Boston deal done and was extremely happy according to everybody on the Uncle Drew set whenever the trade finally went through. The Celtics may not have been on the initial list, but he showed he wanted the deal to Boston.

[King Ken]

Disagree on point 6. It was disproven and put to bed imo. I think you are far overplaying the odds of AD re-signing. Dude was rolling in with a "that's all folks" shirt. Dude is not coming back, too much has happened. I think the trade ends up being Tatum, Brown, filler of some sort, picks including memphis. If Griffin wants more I challenge him to find it

You are really stanning. You remind me of me when Al Horford was a FA. I was like, no chance in hell he would leave. We will pay him. He is our franchise. We are building and we have Bud. My man took less money to go to a better fit and if KD would have stayed, he would have went to OKC.

I'm not arguing loyalty. I'm arguing Boston is still the best fit if you make a few moves

I don't think Boston is the best fit honestly for KI. Kyrie stinks in this system when it matters. I don't think AD is the best fit for him either unless it's AD, him and KD. I think him and KD in Fizdale's Miami styled offensive system is the best fit for Kyrie. Where he and Durant can ball stop but it's okay because they will just run the 4 out set with little movement anyway. Most of their actions will come via out of bound plays. Just a better fit for Kyrie's game. I actually think Boston/Stevens is a good fit for AD but man, you don't want to only have him as the superstar and you have no great young players due to the trade and you got Miami/LAL and other teams chopping at the bit to land AD. Everyone will have cap space in 2020. That includes Golden State. I wouldn't risk it honestly. Too many teams will space.

You gotta make trades like Toronto did where they didn't give up much for Leonard but it's unlikely Boston will be able to do that with AD since LA will be offering the world for him and they will just use them to leverage Boston into more value.

Boston has a lot of positive assets and in a great place but in order to hit a home run, it heavily depends on Kyrie.