Fire Brad Stevens.

[Ernest]

That win had to hurt you guys huh? Then Woj says Brad is coming back. The Minny announcers the other day called Boston fans wanting Brad fired "insane"

[31to6]

That win had to hurt you guys huh? Then Woj says Brad is coming back. The Minny announcers the other day called Boston fans wanting Brad fired "insane"

As a "want to move on from Brad" poster I'll say great, we're the 7th seed in the East. I'm not 'hurt', just resigned to the reality that he'll be here for the foreseeable future. I don't think this guy can take this team to the next level, but will hope I'm proven wrong. I'm glad if the Timberwolves broadcast team likes him. The ESPN crew does too. So does our management. Our players? I don't know. Those are the ones he needs to make an impact on. Maybe he is, and they'd be a worse team without him?

[truth18]

That win had to hurt you guys huh? Then Woj says Brad is coming back. The Minny announcers the other day called Boston fans wanting Brad fired "insane"

As a "want to move on from Brad" poster I'll say great, we're the 7th seed in the East. I'm not 'hurt', just resigned to the reality that he'll be here for the foreseeable future. I don't think this guy can take this team to the next level, but will hope I'm proven wrong. I'm glad if the Timberwolves broadcast team likes him. The ESPN crew does too. So does our management. Our players? I don't know. Those are the ones he needs to make an impact on. Maybe he is, and they'd be a worse team without him?

Just to bah humbug you both and this entire thread: coaching matters the least in the NBA out of all major sports leagues. This issue is honestly not that important either way. A servicable coach is all you need. The roster and talent matters much more.

[Bar Fight]

That win had to hurt you guys huh? Then Woj says Brad is coming back. The Minny announcers the other day called Boston fans wanting Brad fired "insane"

As a "want to move on from Brad" poster I'll say great, we're the 7th seed in the East. I'm not 'hurt', just resigned to the reality that he'll be here for the foreseeable future. I don't think this guy can take this team to the next level, but will hope I'm proven wrong. I'm glad if the Timberwolves broadcast team likes him. The ESPN crew does too. So does our management. Our players? I don't know. Those are the ones he needs to make an impact on. Maybe he is, and they'd be a worse team without him?

Just to bah humbug you both and this entire thread: coaching matters the least in the NBA out of all major sports leagues. This issue is honestly not that important either way. A servicable coach is all you need. The roster and talent matters much more.

When a team is performing below their talent level then you better start looking at the coach.

[moonie_mcgee]

As a "want to move on from Brad" poster I'll say great, we're the 7th seed in the East. I'm not 'hurt', just resigned to the reality that he'll be here for the foreseeable future. I don't think this guy can take this team to the next level, but will hope I'm proven wrong. I'm glad if the Timberwolves broadcast team likes him. The ESPN crew does too. So does our management. Our players? I don't know. Those are the ones he needs to make an impact on. Maybe he is, and they'd be a worse team without him?

Just to bah humbug you both and this entire thread: coaching matters the least in the NBA out of all major sports leagues. This issue is honestly not that important either way. A servicable coach is all you need. The roster and talent matters much more.

When a team is performing below their talent level then you better start looking at the coach.

You're right of course. It's so unimportant they can't move on. Fact is Stevens isn't getting the best out of his talent. The team is a reflection of his personality. Many would prefer a coach with more fight, respect and passion. Ask Kyrie.

[truth18]

Just to bah humbug you both and this entire thread: coaching matters the least in the NBA out of all major sports leagues. This issue is honestly not that important either way. A servicable coach is all you need. The roster and talent matters much more.

When a team is performing below their talent level then you better start looking at the coach.

You're right of course. It's so unimportant they can't move on. Fact is Stevens isn't getting the best out of his talent. The team is a reflection of his personality. Many would prefer a coach with more fight, respect and passion. Ask Kyrie.

Fact is, is that I was the first person on here to begin seriously criticizing Stevens. Years ago, and I got flamed hard always for it. Check my post history/stats if you want.

And that said, the fact is that this is simply a non-issue to our FO, players and anyone who understands the sport. You can tilt against the windmills all you want but coaching simply doesn't matter much in the NBA and NEVER has.

[moonie_mcgee]

The Celts were projected to be a top 4 team in the East, and the Knicks and Hawks are ahead of us. New coaches.

[31to6]

When a team is performing below their talent level then you better start looking at the coach.

You're right of course. It's so unimportant they can't move on. Fact is Stevens isn't getting the best out of his talent. The team is a reflection of his personality. Many would prefer a coach with more fight, respect and passion. Ask Kyrie.

Fact is, is that I was the first person on here to begin seriously criticizing Stevens. Years ago, and I got flamed hard always for it. Check my post history/stats if you want.

And that said, the fact is that this is simply a non-issue to our FO, players and anyone who understands the sport. You can tilt against the windmills all you want but coaching simply doesn't matter much in the NBA and NEVER has.

My memory bank seems to remember this. I have no context by which to compare the value of coaching across sports, but I do know the old saw that it's a lot easier to change the coach than the players.

I 10000% agree it's all moot because Brad isn't going anywhere soon because he and Danny and ownership are all in luv

[truth18]

You're right of course. It's so unimportant they can't move on. Fact is Stevens isn't getting the best out of his talent. The team is a reflection of his personality. Many would prefer a coach with more fight, respect and passion. Ask Kyrie.

Fact is, is that I was the first person on here to begin seriously criticizing Stevens. Years ago, and I got flamed hard always for it. Check my post history/stats if you want.

And that said, the fact is that this is simply a non-issue to our FO, players and anyone who understands the sport. You can tilt against the windmills all you want but coaching simply doesn't matter much in the NBA and NEVER has.

My memory bank seems to remember this. I have no context by which to compare the value of coaching across sports, but I do know the old saw that it's a lot easier to change the coach than the players.

I 10000% agree it's all moot because Brad isn't going anywhere soon because he and Danny and ownership are all in luv

Yup. Frankly, this whole thread is pretty insecure and confusing. Seems like a by-product of the pandemic and people's continued refusal to accept the negative abstract. Which, for the Celtics is simply this: we got very unlucky the past five years in many ways, we should have locked up a better C years ago and the world is in a PANDEMIC and chaos. Tatum was **** marked with the plague and dudes in here want to fire Brad this year . We were playing in a god damn bubble last year LOL.

This franchise isn't owed anything and scapegoating the coach is weak in any sport but especially basketball. Some spoiled ass people on here.

And again, I say all of this as someone who isn't isn't a fan of the guy. That's how stupid this non-issue thread is.

[moonie_mcgee]

Fact is, is that I was the first person on here to begin seriously criticizing Stevens. Years ago, and I got flamed hard always for it. Check my post history/stats if you want.

And that said, the fact is that this is simply a non-issue to our FO, players and anyone who understands the sport. You can tilt against the windmills all you want but coaching simply doesn't matter much in the NBA and NEVER has.

My memory bank seems to remember this. I have no context by which to compare the value of coaching across sports, but I do know the old saw that it's a lot easier to change the coach than the players.

I 10000% agree it's all moot because Brad isn't going anywhere soon because he and Danny and ownership are all in luv

Yup. Frankly, this whole thread is pretty insecure and confusing. Seems like a by-product of the pandemic and people's continued refusal to accept the negative abstract. Which, for the Celtics is simply this: we got very unlucky the past five years in many ways, we should have locked up a better C years ago and the world is in a PANDEMIC and chaos. Tatum was **** marked with the plague and dudes in here want to fire Brad this year . We were playing in a god damn bubble last year LOL.

This franchise isn't owed anything and scapegoating the coach is weak in any sport but especially basketball. Some spoiled ass people on here.

And again, I say all of this as someone who isn't isn't a fan of the guy. That's how stupid this non-issue thread is.

I agree with you and mean no disrespect. My point is that you're right about the relative value of coaching in the NBA. My added point is that alot of posters believe he's kind of all that whereas teams have jumped us after coaching changes, and that leading the team is more important than Xs and Os. We're all just posting our observations and opinions from watching our favorite bball team.

[Bar Fight]

When a team is performing below their talent level then you better start looking at the coach.

You're right of course. It's so unimportant they can't move on. Fact is Stevens isn't getting the best out of his talent. The team is a reflection of his personality. Many would prefer a coach with more fight, respect and passion. Ask Kyrie.

Fact is, is that I was the first person on here to begin seriously criticizing Stevens. Years ago, and I got flamed hard always for it. Check my post history/stats if you want.

And that said, the fact is that this is simply a non-issue to our FO, players and anyone who understands the sport. You can tilt against the windmills all you want but coaching simply doesn't matter much in the NBA and NEVER has.

Did coaching not matter when the Warriors fired Mark Jackson and hired Steve Kerr and immediately went from a first round exit to NBA Champions with the same roster?

Or what about the Lakers getting swept out of the Playoffs every year with Del Harris, then threepeating when they hired Phil?

[31to6]

gotta admit Perkins' comments on Brad's comments about the Nets were pretty SPICY though

Watch on YouTube

Brad's a great coach and has done a great job here. Doesn't mean we're married to the guy. At some point it'll be time to move on, and I for one will welcome our new ant overlords -- I mean, hopefully James Posey

[moonie_mcgee]

Thanks for posting that. I gotta read into Posey. 8 years is a long time. A lot of posters will disagree but how the Celts perform vs the Nets will say a lot about this coaching staff. We all know it's on the players to perform, but the LEVEL OF EFFORT should be seen as an indication of the coaching staff's ability to get the most out of the players.

[scottyno]

The Celts were projected to be a top 4 team in the East, and the Knicks and Hawks are ahead of us. New coaches.

Might have something to do with them never playing a single game with the actual roster all season, combined with the fact that when they did get guys back multiple times they took weeks or even a month to get them back to near 100%.

I mean, even with all that they would have had a good shot at the 4 seed if Brown and Williams didn't get hurt in mid april.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

That win had to hurt you guys huh? Then Woj says Brad is coming back. The Minny announcers the other day called Boston fans wanting Brad fired "insane"

I know you're a big Brad guy, but we lost at least 6 games definitively to poor coaching. Probably more. If we had those 6 games back, non story...but..

[Leprechaun18]

Its not Brad. Its our roster. I would trade JB, depending on what we can get for him. We need some guys who want it and will put effort into getting it.

[exculpatory]

gotta admit Perkins' comments on Brad's comments about the Nets were pretty SPICY though

Watch on YouTube

Brad's a great coach and has done a great job here. Doesn't mean we're married to the guy. At some point it'll be time to move on, and I for one will welcome our new ant overlords -- I mean, hopefully James Posey

I am 100% w Perk.

**** Casper Milquetoast/Howdy Doody/Alfred E Newman/Pete Buttigieg clone/Mister **** Rogers/Anorgasmic Wonder is a nice fella, knows some Xs & Os & has coached us to 3 ECFs - but he needs a testicular transplant & some mother **** passion. I am so so so tired of his freaking calm demeanor. I think coaches are as important as talent, roster construction, injury luck etc in achieving NBA success.

[cloverleaf]

The Celts were projected to be a top 4 team in the East, and the Knicks and Hawks are ahead of us. New coaches.

Might have something to do with them never playing a single game with the actual roster all season, combined with the fact that when they did get guys back multiple times they took weeks or even a month to get them back to near 100%.

I mean, even with all that they would have had a good shot at the 4 seed if Brown and Williams didn't get hurt in mid april.

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[scottyno]

Where on that plot is the part where they had bad Tatum for a month, bad Kemba and bad Fournier for weeks, bad Smart for weeks while they were playing but clearly nowhere near 100%?

[RondoToKG]

He said the Nets are going to beat us.. why the **** would he ever say that? Sure, it might be true... but god damn, at least make it sound like you think you're going to win.