Trade/Free Agency Thread, whose NINE is it anyways?? 2023-24

[zoyathedestroya]

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Congrats to the Chicago Bulls! Get well soon, Zo!

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Jaylen seems to be considered top 25 amongst the league, which is all that matters, and Brad should get a top 25 guy in return, if they ever deal Jaylen.

Bring in lesser players and Tatum's probably a Laker in a few years, which would be the ultimate dagger.

Not if the Celtics win. Tatum will get the supermax and will be looking for a ring. At that point LeBron will be gone and AD will be hobbling (again).

If Tatum loves Brown so much, he wouldn't be lobbying Dame to come to Boston (allegedly). Portland isn't parting with Lillard for Brogdon and bits and pieces, even if the salaries matched. Tatum sees all of Brown's dumb plays up close and personal.

Tatum's likely lobbying Lillard to join him and Brown.

But Tatum isn't stupid. He knows that if the celtics get Dame, there's a good chance that JB is part of the trade package to acquire him..

[CelticFaninLBC]

Not if the Celtics win. Tatum will get the supermax and will be looking for a ring. At that point LeBron will be gone and AD will be hobbling (again).

If Tatum loves Brown so much, he wouldn't be lobbying Dame to come to Boston (allegedly). Portland isn't parting with Lillard for Brogdon and bits and pieces, even if the salaries matched. Tatum sees all of Brown's dumb plays up close and personal.

Tatum's likely lobbying Lillard to join him and Brown.

But Tatum isn't stupid. He knows that if the celtics get Dame, there's a good chance that JB is part of the trade package to acquire him..

Why does Tatum want to piss off Jaylen? Also, why does Brad need to offer Jaylen when Miami is offering a **** sandwich, and can move guys who are on better deals than Tyler Hero.

[zoyathedestroya]

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[BK_2020]

Tatum's likely lobbying Lillard to join him and Brown.

But Tatum isn't stupid. He knows that if the celtics get Dame, there's a good chance that JB is part of the trade package to acquire him..

Why does Tatum want to piss off Jaylen? Also, why does Brad need to offer Jaylen when Miami is offering a **** sandwich, and can move guys who are on better deals than Tyler Hero.

Well to begin with Portland's not biting whatever Miami's offer is.

[CelticFaninLBC]

But Tatum isn't stupid. He knows that if the celtics get Dame, there's a good chance that JB is part of the trade package to acquire him..

Why does Tatum want to piss off Jaylen? Also, why does Brad need to offer Jaylen when Miami is offering a **** sandwich, and can move guys who are on better deals than Tyler Hero.

Well to begin with Portland's not biting whatever Miami's offer is.

Right, so doesn't make sense to offer up a top 25 guy when other offers suck.

[Darthlukey]

Why does Tatum want to piss off Jaylen? Also, why does Brad need to offer Jaylen when Miami is offering a **** sandwich, and can move guys who are on better deals than Tyler Hero.

Well to begin with Portland's not biting whatever Miami's offer is.

Right, so doesn't make sense to offer up a top 25 guy when other offers suck.

The funny thing is, Miami's offer is so bad - one above average rotation piece and 3 1sts - that we can crush it (as can a lot of teams that arent the heat) without breaking a sweat - here is a youngish player, salary ballast and 5 1sts. Instantly better and doesnt disrupt what else we have going on.

[robdog_5]

On one of the ringer podcasts Woz basically carried Dames water for him. But he had mentioned that Portland hasn't even called Miami yet to get their offer. Which is weird

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Tatum's likely lobbying Lillard to join him and Brown.

But Tatum isn't stupid. He knows that if the celtics get Dame, there's a good chance that JB is part of the trade package to acquire him..

Why does Tatum want to piss off Jaylen? Also, why does Brad need to offer Jaylen when Miami is offering a **** sandwich, and can move guys who are on better deals than Tyler Hero.

Why was tatum working out with KD last summer, right in the middle of all those JB/KD trade rumors? Why did Tatum go on a vacation with Donovan Mitchell a couple weeks ago, right in the middle of all those Cavs trade rumors? idk..

[CelticFaninLBC]

But Tatum isn't stupid. He knows that if the celtics get Dame, there's a good chance that JB is part of the trade package to acquire him..

Why does Tatum want to piss off Jaylen? Also, why does Brad need to offer Jaylen when Miami is offering a **** sandwich, and can move guys who are on better deals than Tyler Hero.

Why was tatum working out with KD last summer, right in the middle of all those JB/KD trade rumors? Why did Tatum go on a vacation with Donovan Mitchell a couple weeks ago, right in the middle of all those Cavs trade rumors? idk..

Seems like he's good friends with both. Not sure how this is relevant.

[tfmiii]

“Jazz interested in…” curse lands on Tyler Herro.

Move over John Collins, the extended trade block has a new resident.

I know Ainge would help the devil for a modest asset...

But part of me wonders if he'd feign interest in Herro to string Riley along to help run out the clock on Dame's and/or Portland's patience?

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Well to begin with Portland's not biting whatever Miami's offer is.

Right, so doesn't make sense to offer up a top 25 guy when other offers suck.

The funny thing is, Miami's offer is so bad - one above average rotation piece and 3 1sts - that we can crush it (as can a lot of teams that arent the heat) without breaking a sweat - here is a youngish player, salary ballast and 5 1sts. Instantly better and doesnt disrupt what else we have going on.

What youngish player are you talking about? How exactly are we beating Miami's offer of Herro + Jovic (or Jaquez) + Lowry + 2 (or 3) 1st round picks, without trading JB?

Keep in mind, our offer has to probably be MUCH higher than Miami's since they are Dame's preferred destination.

We can beat any Miami offer by offering JB. We know obviously Miami is not gonna offer Bam or Butler..

[CelticFaninLBC]

Right, so doesn't make sense to offer up a top 25 guy when other offers suck.

The funny thing is, Miami's offer is so bad - one above average rotation piece and 3 1sts - that we can crush it (as can a lot of teams that arent the heat) without breaking a sweat - here is a youngish player, salary ballast and 5 1sts. Instantly better and doesnt disrupt what else we have going on.

What youngish player are you talking about? How exactly are we beating Miami's offer of Herro + Jovic (or Jaquez) + Lowry + 2 (or 3) 1st round picks, without trading JB?

Keep in mind, our offer has to probably be MUCH higher than Miami's since they are Dame's preferred destination.

And also consider, that from a financial standpoint, it might not be possible (or make much sense) to pay Dame his supermax contract which he already has and have to pay JB his supermax contract this summer, plus you have JB's supermax next year and Porzingis makes lots of $ too.

If we trade for Dame, it might make the most sense from a financial standpoint to have JB as part of the outgoing trade package. So we're not tying too much $ up in just 4 players. Which would probably make it nearly impossible to round out the rest of the roster with capable enough players..

Lillard isn't the GM of Portland, so Portland can tell Pat Riley to **** off with his offer.

The Celtics have more FRP's to offer, along with analytics darling Rob Williams, and Brogdon can be dealt to a 3rd team for another asset or 2.

Lastly, could care less about 2024-2025 financials, if they can win it all in 2023-2024. Brad can figure it out how to stay under the 2nd tax apron next summer... Hell, maybe ownership goes over the 2nd apron in 2024-25. However, you may get your wish and they'll deal Jaylen next summer, but much to some's chagrin, he may leave Boston with a ring.

[rd26]

Right, so doesn't make sense to offer up a top 25 guy when other offers suck.

The funny thing is, Miami's offer is so bad - one above average rotation piece and 3 1sts - that we can crush it (as can a lot of teams that arent the heat) without breaking a sweat - here is a youngish player, salary ballast and 5 1sts. Instantly better and doesnt disrupt what else we have going on.

What youngish player are you talking about? How exactly are we beating Miami's offer of Herro + Jovic (or Jaquez) + Lowry + 2 (or 3) 1st round picks, without trading JB?

Keep in mind, our offer has to probably be MUCH higher than Miami's since they are Dame's preferred destination.

5 FRP >> 2 FRP
White or Rob / Brogdon > Hero / Highsmith

Not a trade I'm recommending, but it's better than Miami's

[Darthlukey]

The funny thing is, Miami's offer is so bad - one above average rotation piece and 3 1sts - that we can crush it (as can a lot of teams that arent the heat) without breaking a sweat - here is a youngish player, salary ballast and 5 1sts. Instantly better and doesnt disrupt what else we have going on.

What youngish player are you talking about? How exactly are we beating Miami's offer of Herro + Jovic (or Jaquez) + Lowry + 2 (or 3) 1st round picks, without trading JB?

Keep in mind, our offer has to probably be MUCH higher than Miami's since they are Dame's preferred destination.

5 FRP >> 2 FRP
White or Rob / Brogdon > Hero / Highsmith

Not a trade I'm recommending, but it's better than Miami's

Ill be honest, I was thinking specific players, but Rob was probably the one I would slot in there

[CelticFaninLBC]

The funny thing is, Miami's offer is so bad - one above average rotation piece and 3 1sts - that we can crush it (as can a lot of teams that arent the heat) without breaking a sweat - here is a youngish player, salary ballast and 5 1sts. Instantly better and doesnt disrupt what else we have going on.

What youngish player are you talking about? How exactly are we beating Miami's offer of Herro + Jovic (or Jaquez) + Lowry + 2 (or 3) 1st round picks, without trading JB?

Keep in mind, our offer has to probably be MUCH higher than Miami's since they are Dame's preferred destination.

5 FRP >> 2 FRP
White or Rob / Brogdon > Hero / Highsmith

Not a trade I'm recommending, but it's better than Miami's

Going by RAPTOR WAR, age, and much cheaper contract, Portland needs to kick in an FRP or 2, if DWhite gets dealt for Lillard.

[Larry_Russell]

Brogdon and rob for dame wouldnt make up the salary needed. Unfortunately.

[rd26]

Brogdon and rob for dame wouldnt make up the salary needed. Unfortunately.

Add filler, its workable

[Fierce1]

Those wondering if the Cs can get Dame without including JB, yes, it can be done.

Brogs, Rob, PP, Kornet, and Champagnie for Dame works!

[CelticFaninLBC]

Brogdon and rob for dame wouldnt make up the salary needed. Unfortunately.

Add Pritchard, Kornet and Hauser and it works per Fanspo.