Free Agent, Trade, Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 con't

[chrisab123]

Brad Stevens just said the Celtics won't be in the top end of the draft in his press conference so take that for what it's worth. Stevens also said there could be fireworks around the draft but not for the Celtics so take that for what it's worth. Personally I don't take much out of these end of year GM press conferences because they never say much and it's all before they talk to the organization and other teams. Not to mention they are not going to tell the world what their intentions are for the off-season.

Tank brigade in shambles

[chrisab123]

Could we possibly trade Jaylen and White for a load of draft picks and young players? Then let KP expire at the end of the year and try to move Jrue for nothing. You'd have a ton of cap space, some high level rookies who got good minutes this year and hopefully are ready to go and the ability to move picks and young guys for a star next year when Tatum is back.

Kind of a complete reset where this year is all about value building in order to ship guys out for stars when Tatum is ready.

You could, but also be ready to ship an angry Tatum out when he asks for a trade. Then you’re more or less hoping to be where you are now in 5 years after the assets you get for Tatum Brown and White develop into hopefully Tatum Brown and White.

I highly doubt a trade request is coming out of Tatum anytime soon even if they traded Brown and White. He's about to spend a whole year rehabbing one of the most serious injuries a player can have. Even year 1 back is probably going to be somewhat of an overwhelming experience for him. I highly doubt any trade request is realistic until two years from now.

They won’t trade him next year but if you come back to a team full of 22 year olds fresh off a trip to tank city and a total rebuild and all you have is Tatum then yeah Tatum will be gone pretty quick. Just because something works in NBA2K doesn’t mean it will work here.

[flintsky21]

That's pretty bad...

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I'd do it if we're getting Sengun.

[playa-hater]

All I know is, KP is gone. Wouldn't be surprised if he is moved on or before draft night.

Might have to attach draft capital to move him.

But at least we get off that contract..and we get some guys on the roster in his place who we can actually count on to be healthy.

And apart from being healthy, we need some guys who also line up with the 2nd chapter of tatums career age timeline.

Since drafting JT in 2017, the only 1st round picks we drafted still on our roster are PP and Scheierman. And we don't have any rotation players under 25 yrs. Heck, JT is still one of the youngest guys on our team, lol

If JT misses the year, we need to start developing younger guys for JT's return seasons 2026-2030

If we are moving off bigger salaried guys, hope the trades can bring back some guys 22-26 yrs old.

Exactly. I'm not about blowing it up to get future draft picks. I think we should do exactly as you suggested

[Curmudgeon]

That was a full half hour of non-answers.

[itrsteve]

Brad Stevens just said the Celtics won't be in the top end of the draft in his press conference so take that for what it's worth. Stevens also said there could be fireworks around the draft but not for the Celtics so take that for what it's worth. Personally I don't take much out of these end of year GM press conferences because they never say much and it's all before they talk to the organization and other teams. Not to mention they are not going to tell the world what their intentions are for the off-season.

Tank brigade in shambles

ha! It was a wet dream from the beginning thinking he'd fire Joe. Too many people wasted precious brain cycles on that.

As far as JB, highly doubt he'd do that either. Certainly times where I wouldn't mind it but it would be difficult to replace him, particularly on the defensive end.

Will be curious to see how he does being the focal point next year. Hopefully PP slides into the starting PG and is doing the primary work of bringing the ball up the court and facilitating. Both the Jay's could benefit from that.

[redslastlaugh]

Logan Murdock GSW reporter said the Warriors would have interest in D. White if C's would make him available.
He didn't mention any names coming back, but if you look at GSW books, you really only have Moody and Buddy Hield and a couple of lesser contracts (TJD, Santos, Podz who they'd probably want to keep).

Moody is signed for 4 years around $12 million annually.
Buddy is around $10 next year and then only $3 guaranteed in 2026-27
GWS doesn't have a first this year but then can trade firsts in future years.

You could imagine a GSW offer such as this:
Hield, Moody, Santos and 2 firsts for D White?
I don't love that value for Derrick

[Fierce1]

For the math to work, Cs would need to trade Jrue and KP and get a guy like Gafford in return.

Re-sign Luke then add cheaper role players.

Cs can get to 189m if they do that.

But that would mean the Cs will look like:

C - Gafford/Luke/Queta
PF - JT
SF - JB
SG - White
PG - PP

Sam
Baylor
1st rnd pick
Walsh
Davison

That's basically the roster that would not make the Cs a repeater.

[Fierce1]

I would love the Cs get Cam Johnson from the Nets.

[phincsfan]

Logan Murdock GSW reporter said the Warriors would have interest in D. White if C's would make him available.
He didn't mention any names coming back, but if you look at GSW books, you really only have Moody and Buddy Hield and a couple of lesser contracts (TJD, Santos, Podz who they'd probably want to keep).

Moody is signed for 4 years around $12 million annually.
Buddy is around $10 next year and then only $3 guaranteed in 2026-27
GWS doesn't have a first this year but then can trade firsts in future years.

You could imagine a GSW offer such as this:
Hield, Moody, Santos and 2 firsts for D White?
I don't love that value for Derrick

White can snag a lottery slot this draft imo.

Warriors can easily be a playoff team next season.

[Fierce1]

If we're trading White and keeping JB then might as well trade DWhite for KD.

Hield, Moody, and Santos?

Celtic fans will not be in the mood for that.

[Curmudgeon]

If they trade White they will not contend in two years. Might as well clean house. A Tatum, Brown, White. Pritchard team with a couple of young bigs might make some noise, but without White they are back to mediocre.

[leper-con]

White isnt going out the door for a poo poo platter , he could fetch a mid to late lottery draft pick ala Ray Allen .

[Curmudgeon]

White isnt going out the door for a poo poo platter , he could fetch a mid to late lottery draft pick ala Ray Allen .

Well, I hope they can do better than that. Houston would die for a player like White. So would Minnesota.

[Fierce1]

White isnt going out the door for a poo poo platter , he could fetch a mid to late lottery draft pick ala Ray Allen .

Well, I hope they can do better than that. Houston would die for a player like White. So would Minnesota.

That is so true.

[Curmudgeon]

Or let me put it another way: if you trade White, be prepared for Tatum to ask for a trade. He knows how good White is.

[Hal14]

I would love the Cs get Cam Johnson from the Nets.

With Tatum out for awhile w/ the achilles injury, that actually be a decent target.

Maybe we move off some of these other contracts like KP/Jrue/Hauser (some of them could possibly be moved in the deal to get Cam)..then a) we really need a player like Cam and b) we trimmed enough payroll to get him

Looks like Cam is signed for 2 more years. Fairly reasonable contract, only like $22 mil a year.

Adding him could be a way that we trim some payroll, while remaining competitive and he could be a piece of the core when we try to win another title, once Tatum is healed up..

[brackdan70]

Logan Murdock GSW reporter said the Warriors would have interest in D. White if C's would make him available.
He didn't mention any names coming back, but if you look at GSW books, you really only have Moody and Buddy Hield and a couple of lesser contracts (TJD, Santos, Podz who they'd probably want to keep).

Moody is signed for 4 years around $12 million annually.
Buddy is around $10 next year and then only $3 guaranteed in 2026-27
GWS doesn't have a first this year but then can trade firsts in future years.

You could imagine a GSW offer such as this:
Hield, Moody, Santos and 2 firsts for D White?
I don't love that value for Derrick

I need a third first with the platter.

[chrisab123]

Or let me put it another way: if you trade White, be prepared for Tatum to ask for a trade. He knows how good White is.

I feel like quite a few people would be okay with Tatum being dealt if it meant they could tank for the next few years. These people just want to follow prospects and don’t care about banners.

[165bows]

If they trade White they will not contend in two years. Might as well clean house. A Tatum, Brown, White. Pritchard team with a couple of young bigs might make some noise, but without White they are back to mediocre.

Yeah this. Only way you can trade the above guys (outside Tatum) is for massively obvious increase in value. Ie I’m not sure what other Brown trade I want to talk about other than holding out for if/when Jokic hits the market.

The other guys to a slightly lesser degree.

Oh and Warriors interest in DWhite can go take a flying leap.