The Trade-Mill - Trade Thread Part Infinity

[Captain_Caveman]

You could make the argument that Butler is the best 2 guard in the NBA today. He's a bigger, better version of Bradley that can create his own shot and get to the rim

Butler is a better version of Bradley or Crowder on the wings. Would be an interesting pick up, because he sorta renders one or both of them irrelevant. Could easily see one or both going out in a package for Love afterwards.

Love and Butler here? I've been feeling pretty low on Love but I would be down for that.

The two most attainable stars that I'd actually be OK with trading for, and so long as other pieces went out and cap finagling took place, would likely still be able to add a FA this summer.

Spoiler:

OMG KD IS HAPPENING

New smallball lineup:

IT
Smart
Butler
Durant
Love

[Green89]

If we sign Butler, wouldn't it be wasting cap space ? . I just don't see him as a star player . The Celtics should be going after real stars/ difference makers such as Kevin Durant, Cousins, Davis, Griffin, Harden, Westbrook etc. Plus I don't think Butler will be able to recruit another star player here.

You could make the argument that Butler is the best 2 guard in the NBA today. He's a bigger, better version of Bradley that can create his own shot and get to the rim

Butler is a better version of Bradley or Crowder on the wings. Would be an interesting pick up, because he sorta renders one or both of them irrelevant. Could easily see one or both going out in a package for Love afterwards.

Bradley's the expendable one if we score Butler. Gotta keep glue guy Crowder.

[Homerclease]

If were picking outside of top 2, Olynyk and Brooklyn pick for Favors?

Utah are notorious tightwads. I don't think that's enough to even get them to think about moving favors. Next years draft is viewed as better than this years with a top 3 who are all viewed very very highly. Favors right now is pretty much untouchable, a year from now may be a different story however

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

If we sign Butler, wouldn't it be wasting cap space ? . I just don't see him as a star player . The Celtics should be going after real stars/ difference makers such as Kevin Durant, Cousins, Davis, Griffin, Harden, Westbrook etc. Plus I don't think Butler will be able to recruit another star player here.

Butler is as tough as Crowder on D with a better offensive game

[Captain_Caveman]

You could make the argument that Butler is the best 2 guard in the NBA today. He's a bigger, better version of Bradley that can create his own shot and get to the rim

Butler is a better version of Bradley or Crowder on the wings. Would be an interesting pick up, because he sorta renders one or both of them irrelevant. Could easily see one or both going out in a package for Love afterwards.

Well one of the two would have to be sent out in return, Bulls would probably want Crowder seeing as they've been starting either Snell or Mirotic at the 3 for most of the season. Obviously we'd rather move Bradley instead.

Bulls are likely tanking if they deal Butler.

What else would they have to live for? Haha.

[truth18]

Butler is a better version of Bradley or Crowder on the wings. Would be an interesting pick up, because he sorta renders one or both of them irrelevant. Could easily see one or both going out in a package for Love afterwards.

Well one of the two would have to be sent out in return, Bulls would probably want Crowder seeing as they've been starting either Snell or Mirotic at the 3 for most of the season. Obviously we'd rather move Bradley instead.

Bulls are likely tanking if they deal Butler.

What else would they have to live for? Haha.

This discussion is fun and optimistic, but it's unlikely the Bulls deal with us. They have never made a trade with the Celtics, right?

They should deal Rose to someone incompetent like the Kings or Nets. Send Pau w/e. And then tank.

[Captain_Caveman]

You could make the argument that Butler is the best 2 guard in the NBA today. He's a bigger, better version of Bradley that can create his own shot and get to the rim

Butler is a better version of Bradley or Crowder on the wings. Would be an interesting pick up, because he sorta renders one or both of them irrelevant. Could easily see one or both going out in a package for Love afterwards.

Bradley's the expendable one if we score Butler. Gotta keep glue guy Crowder.

Yeah, agree it is preferable. But no one is trading All-Stars for free.

Maybe BKN 16, lesser picks the nonguaranteeds for Butler, and Bradley/Olynyk/picks/fodder for Love.

[Homerclease]

Well one of the two would have to be sent out in return, Bulls would probably want Crowder seeing as they've been starting either Snell or Mirotic at the 3 for most of the season. Obviously we'd rather move Bradley instead.

Bulls are likely tanking if they deal Butler.

What else would they have to live for? Haha.

This discussion is fun and optimistic, but it's unlikely the Bulls deal with us. They have never made a trade with the Celtics, right?

They should deal Rose to someone incompetent like the Kings or Nets. Send Pau w/e. And then tank.

If the Bulls make him available I don't subscribe to the theory that they wouldn't trade him to Boston because it's Boston. If the celtics come up with the best offer they win the prize. The question is will Chicago finally throw in the towel and blow it up

[truth18]

Bulls are likely tanking if they deal Butler.

What else would they have to live for? Haha.

This discussion is fun and optimistic, but it's unlikely the Bulls deal with us. They have never made a trade with the Celtics, right?

They should deal Rose to someone incompetent like the Kings or Nets. Send Pau w/e. And then tank.

If the Bulls make him available I don't subscribe to the theory that they wouldn't trade him to Boston because it's Boston. If the celtics come up with the best offer they win the prize. The question is will Chicago finally throw in the towel and blow it up

Doubtful given their FO's consistent history.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

I think highly of Butler, but I do dispute the notion that he's the best 2-guard in the league right now. I still have Klay ranked ahead of him

[jmr07019]

I think we'd have to do Smart, Brooklyn pick (3-6 range) and lesser picks for Butler. They're going to want the younger Smart over Bradley or Crowder. As much as I like Smart and think there will be good players going 3-6 I still do that trade.

[ConstableGeneva]

I think we'd have to do Smart, Brooklyn pick (3-6 range) and lesser picks for Butler. They're going to want the younger Smart over Bradley or Crowder. As much as I like Smart and think there will be good players going 3-6 I still do that trade.

Yep, Bradley doesn't make sense for the Bulls if they're doing a full reset. It would have to be a three-teamer if we want to keep Smart out of it.

[ddb]

The Celtics pitch to Kevin Durant should be

- We think you're a great player, and could be the missing link in us winning a championship .

- We're a championship driven organization . Look at our rafters. We have the assets to build a championship team around you .

You're going to be the face of our franchise , and going to be marketed at such . You play in a very big market in Boston and thus going to respected and going to go down as one of the Celtics Legends. If that doesn't convince him , nothing will .

I think the brass in the room during Durants visit should be Ainge, Stevens, Bill Russell, AFAM, Wyc, David Ortiz, Tom Brady, David Price, IT and Tom Brunansky

[LarryBirdsFingr]

I think highly of Butler, but I do dispute the notion that he's the best 2-guard in the league right now. I still have Klay ranked ahead of him

I would take Klay all day, I've loved his game since HS. The thing with butler is he's a bit more fierce and tough than Klay. Klay is a great defender, but Butler has the edge as far as mentality.

In reference to durant, I'd want crowder on this team, absolutely, if we had a player like durant. Regardless of whoever we add to the team we need an A+ wing defender unless by some strange miracle we get some A+ front court defenders.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

The Celtics pitch to Kevin Durant should be

- We think you're a great player, and could be the missing link in us winning a championship .

- We're a championship driven organization . Look at our rafters. We have the assets to build a championship team around you .

You're going to be the face of our franchise , and going to be marketed at such . You play in a very big market in Boston and thus going to respected and going to go down as one of the Celtics Legends. If that doesn't convince him , nothing will .

I think the brass in the room during Durants visit should be Ainge, Stevens, Bill Russell, AFAM, Wyc, David Ortiz, Tom Brady, David Price, IT and Tom Brunansky

lol yeah ddb, AFAM will get the deal done. fwiw this butler thing was close afam, besides that I have no idea what the heck is happening just yet. maybe this whole "alot of groundwork laid for the summer" had to do with the fact the bulls and other teams are uncertain wtf is going to happen with their other players, and were scared to pull the trigger.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Just catching up on this thread, Butler would be interesting. Really lucking out would be doing something else with the Brooklyn pick (using it or trading it somewhere) and getting Butler for less (Rozier, Bradley, S&T Sullinger, a couple of 1sts?). Bulls are pragmatic to a fault, Butler and Rose don't work..

Remember we had talks for KG involving the Jeff Green pick, ended up using that to get Ray and then paying a different price for Garnett.

You somehow wind up with Smart, Butler, Crowder as your 1-2-3, you could start Mike and Tommy at the 4 and 5 and have an all-time great defense.

[ConstableGeneva]

So to summarize, our lineup on opening night for 2017-18 season would be Smart-Butler-Durant-Love-Favors with IT-Hunter-Crowder-Mickey-KO off the bench. 18th banner in June 2018 followed by the top pick in the draft via Brooklyn. We have our next Celtics dynasty!

EDIT: I sincerely apologize for being an idiot. Can you blame a fan for having dreams so grand?

[Froob]

The Celtics pitch to Kevin Durant should be

- We think you're a great player, and could be the missing link in us winning a championship .

- We're a championship driven organization . Look at our rafters. We have the assets to build a championship team around you .

You're going to be the face of our franchise , and going to be marketed at such . You play in a very big market in Boston and thus going to respected and going to go down as one of the Celtics Legends. If that doesn't convince him , nothing will .

I think the brass in the room during Durants visit should be Ainge, Stevens, Bill Russell, AFAM, Wyc, David Ortiz, Tom Brady, David Price, IT and Tom Brunansky

lol yeah ddb, AFAM will get the deal done. fwiw this butler thing was close afam, besides that I have no idea what the heck is happening just yet. maybe this whole "alot of groundwork laid for the summer" had to do with the fact the bulls and other teams are uncertain wtf is going to happen with their other players, and were scared to pull the trigger.

Hear anything about Blake? Doc is pretty dumb so I wouldn't be surprise to see him trade for one of his old players like Bradley and barely get much in return for Blake. Blake would be my dream big. Great passer, nice handles, can play some defense. Guy would dominate in Stevens system in my opinion.

[Curmudgeon]

Since when did Blake Griffin play defense? And when did he become a good passer? He's a mid-range jump shooter and dunker.

I do not want to trade the Brooklyn pick-- no matter where it falls-- for anyone except a bona fide two-way star. I like Jaylen Brown and Poeltl, and I love Bender. That pick may yield a potential star even if it drops to #6.

Folks should stop trying to replicate 2007. There is no KG on the market right now.

[Afam]

Original saw this on the Celticsblog and couldn't believe it. Went to ESPN and it was really there . Danny Ainge must have tried to acquire every star player in the league. Lol.