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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#521 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Jan 6, 2022 8:25 pm

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Curmudgeon wrote:I've already proposed several deals with Houston to dump as much salary as possible and take back Wall and Garuba. I mean, I'd love to get Jalen Green but he's probably up there with Ja Morant and Scottie Barnes on the untouchables list.

If Green is available I'd do Tatum, Horford and Schroder for Green, Wall and Garuba.

As for Mitchell, I'd do Brown for Harrison Barnes, Mitchell and a first round pick.
It might not even take Brown if you were willing to take Hield off their hands. I wouldn't do that, but others might.

Sacramento is clearly open for business and so are the Lakers. And Houston has to be after that fiasco with Wood and Porter.


So
Mitchell/Pritchard/Wall
Green/Romeo
Barnes/Nesmith
Garuba/Grant
Timelord/Kanter

Thats prett bad


Well, if that team had two days rest it might have beaten the Spurs at home last night. Last night was pretty bad too, and so was the game before vs Orlando.
But the point is that I want to be bad for a few years and to draft well (and maybe get lucky with the ping pong balls). Plus luxury tax is not a problem going forward.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#522 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Jan 6, 2022 8:59 pm

2 deals to add shooting and a guy with high upside

Big Al, Schroder & Protected FRP to ATL for Gallo, Wright & Reddish (Celtics may need to add one more asset??)

Juancho & PP to DET for Olynyk

Celtic improve from 3:
Gallo 39%
Reddish 38%
Wright 42.5%
Olynyk 34%

Starters - R. Williams, Gallo, Tatum, Brown & Smart
Bench - Olynyk, G. Williams, Reddish, Richardson & Wright
3rd String - Kanter, Nesmith & Romeo (Nesmith or Romeo could get dealt to ATL though)
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#523 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Jan 6, 2022 9:00 pm

LOL, Myles Turner doesn't move any needles. You could probably get him for Horford straight up.
As for what Stevens will do, I expect another "we like our guys" trade deadline, although I do expect a small move or two to get under the tax line.

Stevens needs to understand that 2023 first round picks are gold. Whatever he does, he must keep that pick.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#524 » by fallguy » Thu Jan 6, 2022 9:16 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:LOL, Myles Turner doesn't move any needles. You could probably get him for Horford straight up.
As for what Stevens will do, I expect another "we like our guys" trade deadline, although I do expect a small move or two to get under the tax line.

Stevens needs to understand that 2023 first round picks are gold. Whatever he does, he must keep that pick.


What's the deal with 2023? I know nothing about the college game.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#525 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Jan 6, 2022 9:29 pm

fallguy wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:LOL, Myles Turner doesn't move any needles. You could probably get him for Horford straight up.
As for what Stevens will do, I expect another "we like our guys" trade deadline, although I do expect a small move or two to get under the tax line.

Stevens needs to understand that 2023 first round picks are gold. Whatever he does, he must keep that pick.


What's the deal with 2023? I know nothing about the college game.


It's a really good draft class, and Wembanyama's a great prospect. However, it's pretty ridiculous to tear apart the roster for a 1 in a million shot at getting Wembanyama.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#526 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Jan 6, 2022 9:47 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
fallguy wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:LOL, Myles Turner doesn't move any needles. You could probably get him for Horford straight up.
As for what Stevens will do, I expect another "we like our guys" trade deadline, although I do expect a small move or two to get under the tax line.

Stevens needs to understand that 2023 first round picks are gold. Whatever he does, he must keep that pick.


What's the deal with 2023? I know nothing about the college game.


It's a really good draft class, and Wembanyama's a great prospect. However, it's pretty ridiculous to tear apart the roster for a 1 in a million shot at getting Wembanyama.


It's not just Wembanyama, although having multiple lottery picks certainly gives you a better chance at him. You've got Derek Lively (another 7 footer) Shaedon Sharpe, Emoni Bates and a slew of other international prospects, including Nikola Durisic, Nikola Jovic and Yannick Nzosa. a 6-11 rim runner from the Congo. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

You are going to see more African kids in the league. They are athletic, skilled and hungry. The NBA has made efforts to grow the game there, and it is starting to show.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#527 » by jayu70 » Thu Jan 6, 2022 10:31 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:2 deals to add shooting and a guy with high upside

Big Al, Schroder & Protected FRP to ATL for Gallo, Wright & Reddish (Celtics may need to add one more asset??)

Juancho & PP to DET for Olynyk

Celtic improve from 3:
Gallo 39%
Reddish 38%
Wright 42.5%
Olynyk 34%

Starters - R. Williams, Gallo, Tatum, Brown & Smart
Bench - Olynyk, G. Williams, Reddish, Richardson & Wright
3rd String - Kanter, Nesmith & Romeo (Nesmith or Romeo could get dealt to ATL though)

That's an easy No for Atlanta
1. The rumor is the Hawks are seeking a 2 for 1 deal to UPGRADE Gallo and Reddish - neither Horford nor Dennis qualifies
2. Hawks fans won't want Al back but the biggest thing is his $14 million guarantee next season - that's a non starter when compared to Gallo's 5 mil
3. Hawks fans don't want Dennis back.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#528 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Jan 6, 2022 10:35 pm

jayu70 wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:2 deals to add shooting and a guy with high upside

Big Al, Schroder & Protected FRP to ATL for Gallo, Wright & Reddish (Celtics may need to add one more asset??)

Juancho & PP to DET for Olynyk

Celtic improve from 3:
Gallo 39%
Reddish 38%
Wright 42.5%
Olynyk 34%

Starters - R. Williams, Gallo, Tatum, Brown & Smart
Bench - Olynyk, G. Williams, Reddish, Richardson & Wright
3rd String - Kanter, Nesmith & Romeo (Nesmith or Romeo could get dealt to ATL though)

That's an easy No for Atlanta
1. The rumor is the Hawks are seeking a 2 for 1 deal to UPGRADE Gallo and Reddish - neither Horford nor Dennis qualifies
2. Hawks fans won't want Al back but the biggest thing is his $14 million guarantee next season - that's a non starter when compared to Gallo's 5 mil
3. Hawks fans don't want Dennis back.


Who are "the fans" targeting in a trade?
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#529 » by Hal14 » Thu Jan 6, 2022 10:44 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
fallguy wrote:
What's the deal with 2023? I know nothing about the college game.


It's a really good draft class, and Wembanyama's a great prospect. However, it's pretty ridiculous to tear apart the roster for a 1 in a million shot at getting Wembanyama.


It's not just Wembanyama, although having multiple lottery picks certainly gives you a better chance at him. You've got Derek Lively (another 7 footer) Shaedon Sharpe, Emoni Bates and a slew of other international prospects, including Nikola Durisic, Nikola Jovic and Yannick Nzosa. a 6-11 rim runner from the Congo. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

You are going to see more African kids in the league. They are athletic, skilled and hungry. The NBA has made efforts to grow the game there, and it is starting to show.

Jovic and Nzosa are 2022 draft class. Although Nzosa being so young and so raw, seems like a good chance he will stay in europe for another year and go for 2023 draft (at this point I don't see him as a top 30 player in 2022 draft class). Jovic almost definitely gets drafted in 2022

Other guys in 2023 who could end up being MONSTERS are Scoot Henderson, the Thompson twins (Ausar and Amen) and Adem Bona. All 4 of them could definitely turn into stars in the NBA. The Thompson twins are especially intriguing to me.

With that being said, I don't think Brad is thinking about the studs who will go in 2023 lottery right now. The Thunder, Magic, Pistons, Pelicans and Rockets? Sure, they are probably already looking that far ahead to the 2023 draft. I don't think any other teams other than those ones are looking into the 2023 draft too deeply at this point.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#530 » by Asian Celtic » Thu Jan 6, 2022 10:45 pm

Lmao at teardowns and now looking at "potential talent" for a chance to draft them. What the actual ****?
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#531 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Jan 6, 2022 10:53 pm

Asian Celtic wrote:Lmao at teardowns and now looking at "potential talent" for a chance to draft them. What the actual ****?


So you are happy with the treadmill and those 35-40 glorious wins? Wyc Grousbeck probably is happy with mediocrity too. The appraised value of the franchise is what matters to Wyc.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#532 » by playa-hater » Thu Jan 6, 2022 11:02 pm

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ddb wrote:I also don't think he gets the opportunities he's had in Memphis if he was in Boston.

You think?

Celtics would have given Joe Johnson more minutes than Desmond Bane. Don't exactly know what the plan is in Boston. Draft guys, don't play and develop them and then just let them go in 3 years?

Who knows?


100% agree. Why I hate when people make a Nesmith to Bane comp.. One has great opportunity to learn and develop. while the other has almost none.

Bane = the real deal.
Nesmith = Who the hell knows.. thanks Boston (Ime!)
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#533 » by Dogen » Thu Jan 6, 2022 11:04 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Can’t defend with his size, limited as a playmaker because he can’t drive the paint - but smart, high offensive IQ heady player with a high motor. Even if he’s out of the league when his contract is up, a guy who can be a rotation player on a .500 or better team is a good pick in the 20s. And no one had Bane on their radar, 29 teams passed on him.

I was screaming at the television for Ainge to draft Bane at the 30th pick. Was very excited for about 30 seconds before they announced the trade.

Celtics just don’t know how to evaluate drafts picks that are out of the Top 3. Celtics need a major overhaul with their talent evaluators


Yup, about half the posters here wanted Bane at 26 or 30. Heck, I recall a few mentions of him possibly at 14.

Danny whiffed. We got rid of Vinnie but lost Bane in the process.
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#534 » by playa-hater » Thu Jan 6, 2022 11:04 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:2 deals to add shooting and a guy with high upside

Big Al, Schroder & Protected FRP to ATL for Gallo, Wright & Reddish (Celtics may need to add one more asset??)

Juancho & PP to DET for Olynyk

Celtic improve from 3:
Gallo 39%
Reddish 38%
Wright 42.5%
Olynyk 34%

Starters - R. Williams, Gallo, Tatum, Brown & Smart
Bench - Olynyk, G. Williams, Reddish, Richardson & Wright
3rd String - Kanter, Nesmith & Romeo (Nesmith or Romeo could get dealt to ATL though)


I would be all in on this one.. Atlanta??
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#535 » by Tatumfor2 » Thu Jan 6, 2022 11:05 pm

It's sad, but I kinda want some change just for the excitement.



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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#536 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Jan 6, 2022 11:14 pm

playa-hater wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:2 deals to add shooting and a guy with high upside

Big Al, Schroder & Protected FRP to ATL for Gallo, Wright & Reddish (Celtics may need to add one more asset??)

Juancho & PP to DET for Olynyk

Celtic improve from 3:
Gallo 39%
Reddish 38%
Wright 42.5%
Olynyk 34%

Starters - R. Williams, Gallo, Tatum, Brown & Smart
Bench - Olynyk, G. Williams, Reddish, Richardson & Wright
3rd String - Kanter, Nesmith & Romeo (Nesmith or Romeo could get dealt to ATL though)


I would be all in on this one.. Atlanta??


Dunno. Boston and Atlanta are good trade partners. Atlanta sucks at defense, but is really good at shooting. Boston sucks at shooting, but defends pretty well.

Trae Young's big deal kicks in next year and they're close to the luxury tax, even if they cut Gallo before his deal's fully guaranteed. Might have to find another team for Big Al...
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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#537 » by Asian Celtic » Thu Jan 6, 2022 11:37 pm

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Asian Celtic wrote:Lmao at teardowns and now looking at "potential talent" for a chance to draft them. What the actual ****?


So you are happy with the treadmill and those 35-40 glorious wins? Wyc Grousbeck probably is happy with mediocrity too. The appraised value of the franchise is what matters to Wyc.


I'm happy you're not our GM :)
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Post#538 » by Hal14 » Thu Jan 6, 2022 11:50 pm

Maybe we can all just relax and have a good laugh at how dumb this guy is:

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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#539 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Jan 6, 2022 11:56 pm

Asian Celtic wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
Asian Celtic wrote:Lmao at teardowns and now looking at "potential talent" for a chance to draft them. What the actual ****?


So you are happy with the treadmill and those 35-40 glorious wins? Wyc Grousbeck probably is happy with mediocrity too. The appraised value of the franchise is what matters to Wyc.


I'm happy you're not our GM :)


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Re: Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread 

Post#540 » by jayu70 » Thu Jan 6, 2022 11:58 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
jayu70 wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:2 deals to add shooting and a guy with high upside

Big Al, Schroder & Protected FRP to ATL for Gallo, Wright & Reddish (Celtics may need to add one more asset??)

Juancho & PP to DET for Olynyk

Celtic improve from 3:
Gallo 39%
Reddish 38%
Wright 42.5%
Olynyk 34%

Starters - R. Williams, Gallo, Tatum, Brown & Smart
Bench - Olynyk, G. Williams, Reddish, Richardson & Wright
3rd String - Kanter, Nesmith & Romeo (Nesmith or Romeo could get dealt to ATL though)

That's an easy No for Atlanta
1. The rumor is the Hawks are seeking a 2 for 1 deal to UPGRADE Gallo and Reddish - neither Horford nor Dennis qualifies
2. Hawks fans won't want Al back but the biggest thing is his $14 million guarantee next season - that's a non starter when compared to Gallo's 5 mil
3. Hawks fans don't want Dennis back.


Who are "the fans" targeting in a trade?
I don't think there is a consensus just that if we are including Reddish in a trade it has to be part of a bigger trade package plus future pick(s) for a real difference maker and the 2nd star next to Trae.

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