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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#521 » by redslastlaugh » Mon Sep 15, 2025 10:57 pm

Dogen wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Dogen wrote:Houston goes all in, Boston gets tax relief.

Tari Eason for Anfernee Simons. Eason stays through 2027, would be a nice fit to back up the Jays.

There, I said it, roast me.

I'm like 90% certain Houston would rather have eason on their team than Simons.


So you're saying there's a chance? :wink:

I don't think it's like a 90% certainty that H-Town prefers Eason. Them preferring Simons, that's more like one in a million!
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#522 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon Sep 15, 2025 11:54 pm

Dogen wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Dogen wrote:Houston goes all in, Boston gets tax relief.

Tari Eason for Anfernee Simons. Eason stays through 2027, would be a nice fit to back up the Jays.

There, I said it, roast me.

I'm like 90% certain Houston would rather have eason on their team than Simons.


So you're saying there's a chance? :wink:

I'm sure they like to keep Eason, but for a team that was second best in the West last year and needs to eclipse Denver and OKC... IDK... that starting 5 is not OKC-level defensive of course, but da-yum that's an offensive juggernaut, best in the league. Everybody can pass, and the only weakness in shooting is maybe try to leave Thompson open. Sengun would go to work finding shooters. And probably the deepest team, even without Eason.

Sengun/Thompson/Durant/Simons/VanVleet

Adams/Capela/Smith Jr/Finney-Smith/Sheppard

Okogie/Tate/Holiday


With Sengun as your center, you don't want holes in your perimeter defense.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#523 » by Fierce1 » Mon Sep 15, 2025 11:56 pm

Still trying to get rid of Simons? :lol:

It's September 15, guys. :wink:
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#524 » by bucknersrevenge » Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:00 am

Dogen wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Dogen wrote:Houston goes all in, Boston gets tax relief.

Tari Eason for Anfernee Simons. Eason stays through 2027, would be a nice fit to back up the Jays.

There, I said it, roast me.

I'm like 90% certain Houston would rather have eason on their team than Simons.


So you're saying there's a chance? :wink:

I'm sure they like to keep Eason, but for a team that was second best in the West last year and needs to eclipse Denver and OKC... IDK... that starting 5 is not OKC-level defensive of course, but da-yum that's an offensive juggernaut, best in the league. Everybody can pass, and the only weakness in shooting is maybe try to leave Thompson open. Sengun would go to work finding shooters. And probably the deepest team, even without Eason.

Sengun/Thompson/Durant/Simons/VanVleet

Adams/Capela/Smith Jr/Finney-Smith/Sheppard

Okogie/Tate/Holiday


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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#525 » by Fierce1 » Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:15 am

bucknersrevenge wrote:
Dogen wrote:
Hal14 wrote:I'm like 90% certain Houston would rather have eason on their team than Simons.


So you're saying there's a chance? :wink:

I'm sure they like to keep Eason, but for a team that was second best in the West last year and needs to eclipse Denver and OKC... IDK... that starting 5 is not OKC-level defensive of course, but da-yum that's an offensive juggernaut, best in the league. Everybody can pass, and the only weakness in shooting is maybe try to leave Thompson open. Sengun would go to work finding shooters. And probably the deepest team, even without Eason.

Sengun/Thompson/Durant/Simons/VanVleet

Adams/Capela/Smith Jr/Finney-Smith/Sheppard

Okogie/Tate/Holiday


Is that trade even legal?

Not legal.

Eason is only 5.6m.

Houston also a 1st apron team.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#526 » by Hal14 » Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:34 am

Fierce1 wrote:Still trying to get rid of Simons? :lol:

It's September 15, guys. :wink:

T minus 2 days until he's gone! :wink:
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything :)
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#527 » by Dogen » Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:18 am

Fierce1 wrote:
bucknersrevenge wrote:
Dogen wrote:
So you're saying there's a chance? :wink:

I'm sure they like to keep Eason, but for a team that was second best in the West last year and needs to eclipse Denver and OKC... IDK... that starting 5 is not OKC-level defensive of course, but da-yum that's an offensive juggernaut, best in the league. Everybody can pass, and the only weakness in shooting is maybe try to leave Thompson open. Sengun would go to work finding shooters. And probably the deepest team, even without Eason.

Sengun/Thompson/Durant/Simons/VanVleet

Adams/Capela/Smith Jr/Finney-Smith/Sheppard

Okogie/Tate/Holiday


Is that trade even legal?

Not legal.

Eason is only 5.6m.

Houston also a 1st apron team.


LOL, the trade checker on RealGM let's everything slide! :lol:
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#528 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Sep 16, 2025 1:26 pm

There is zero chance that Houston trade Eason for Simons.

Eason is a grade B player, Simons is a C-.


Maybe a Hauser and TIllman for Eason and Capela. Probably need to add a pick.

But I do love Eason. Would be a great add to the team and fits great with Tatum.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#529 » by Celticlifer » Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:39 pm

C-, right. The object of this game is to score more than the opponent. Guys who can score and impose their will on a defense are rare commodities. Many of them are not perfect, such as Isiah Thomas for us, Jalen Brunson for the Knicks, Iverson for Sixers, Trae, etc.,etc. That does not make them c- players. They are weapons and in the right system, very dangerous players. You will see that shortly.

The NBA playoffs allow much more defensive holding, physical play , etc. than in the regular season. This makes poor defenders better defenders. It also makes players who can score against that kind of defense much more valuable. On Portland, Simons was playing for nothing. All he has to do is try and he will be ok enough for us to get value on the other end. In addition, the ability of Simons to be a weapon will make life so much easier for the J's. That will keep their energy levels much higher during the playoff grind.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#530 » by Fierce1 » Tue Sep 16, 2025 4:11 pm

As the saying goes, when you're in a hole, stop digging!

Simons a C- is worse than the thousand JB trade proposals.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#531 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:00 pm

Celticlifer wrote:C-, right. The object of this game is to score more than the opponent. Guys who can score and impose their will on a defense are rare commodities. Many of them are not perfect, such as Isiah Thomas for us, Jalen Brunson for the Knicks, Iverson for Sixers, Trae, etc.,etc. That does not make them c- players. They are weapons and in the right system, very dangerous players. You will see that shortly.

The NBA playoffs allow much more defensive holding, physical play , etc. than in the regular season. This makes poor defenders better defenders. It also makes players who can score against that kind of defense much more valuable. On Portland, Simons was playing for nothing. All he has to do is try and he will be ok enough for us to get value on the other end. In addition, the ability of Simons to be a weapon will make life so much easier for the J's. That will keep their energy levels much higher during the playoff grind.



All those guys you listed are not perfect, right, but all of those guys were/are super efficient.

Simons isnt.

Bottom 3 in league in overall shot quality and rim shot quality and a poor defender....but yeah, maybe in his 8th year he changes the type of player that he is.

I hope he does honestly, I hope he looks like an mvp candidate and the team gets inundated with massive offers during the season for him,
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#532 » by Celticlifer » Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:21 pm

Isiah Thomas efg career 50.6
Trae-50.4
Brunson 54.7
Simons 53.1

Stop the hate already, this guy is going to be very good for us.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#533 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:46 pm

Celticlifer wrote:Isiah Thomas efg career 50.6
Trae-50.4
Brunson 54.7
Simons 53.1

Stop the hate already, this guy is going to be very good for us.

All of them all-defensive candidates for sure.

I thought there was a decent chance Simons could have been traded in the Sep 6th - Sep 10th range. He wasn't traded. It would be very surprising if Simons was traded now before the mid-season trade deadline. Looks like Simons is a Celtics player for the foreseeable future. Hopefully he shows interest in defending and does well in a Celtics uniform. The Celtics could use a focused Anfernee Simons this year.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#534 » by Gant » Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:06 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Celticlifer wrote:Isiah Thomas efg career 50.6
Trae-50.4
Brunson 54.7
Simons 53.1

Stop the hate already, this guy is going to be very good for us.

All of them all-defensive candidates for sure.

I thought there was a decent chance Simons could have been traded in the Sep 6th - Sep 10th range. He wasn't traded. It would be very surprising if Simons was traded now before the mid-season trade deadline. Looks like Simons is a Celtics player for the foreseeable future. Hopefully he shows interest in defending and does well in a Celtics uniform. The Celtics could use a focused Anfernee Simons this year.

Simons has a large incentive to improve on defense. He's in a contract year, a starting spot is up for grabs, and Joe Mazzulla isn't handing that to anyone who's not taking defense seriously.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#535 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:14 pm

Celticlifer wrote:Isiah Thomas efg career 50.6
Trae-50.4
Brunson 54.7
Simons 53.1

Stop the hate already, this guy is going to be very good for us.


Efg% isnt as good as ts% ( unless you need it to try and prove yourself)

Simons for 7 years has been a below average efficiency.

Trae ts% 580
Brunson is 590
Thomas is just a weird comp but 573

Simons 564 and has gone down year after year for last 3.

And maybe it is coaching, teammates, playstyle, neccessity etc...but more likely he just isnt that efficient. Especially when you consider the quality of the shota he takes.

Again....maybe year 8 is when it all clicks for him

It happened at least once in the past that a year 8 player was great (hedo won MIP in 8th year) then regressed again afterwards
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#536 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:20 pm

Gant wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Celticlifer wrote:Isiah Thomas efg career 50.6
Trae-50.4
Brunson 54.7
Simons 53.1

Stop the hate already, this guy is going to be very good for us.

All of them all-defensive candidates for sure.

I thought there was a decent chance Simons could have been traded in the Sep 6th - Sep 10th range. He wasn't traded. It would be very surprising if Simons was traded now before the mid-season trade deadline. Looks like Simons is a Celtics player for the foreseeable future. Hopefully he shows interest in defending and does well in a Celtics uniform. The Celtics could use a focused Anfernee Simons this year.

Simons has a large incentive to improve on defense. He's in a contract year, a starting spot is up for grabs, and Joe Mazzulla isn't handing that to anyone who's not taking defense seriously.


I feel like that incentive was always there.

Trent jr
Bazemore

All got more mins in his first 3 years

Hart got more in year 4 (then simoms got to play cause hart got hurt)


Didnt really get loads of mins until the team blew up completely.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#537 » by brackdan70 » Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:50 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:There is zero chance that Houston trade Eason for Simons.

Eason is a grade B player, Simons is a C-.


Maybe a Hauser and TIllman for Eason and Capela. Probably need to add a pick.

But I do love Eason. Would be a great add to the team and fits great with Tatum.

I’d love Eason…my assumption is it takes Hauser and a first to get the conversation started.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#538 » by Fierce1 » Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:32 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Celticlifer wrote:Isiah Thomas efg career 50.6
Trae-50.4
Brunson 54.7
Simons 53.1

Stop the hate already, this guy is going to be very good for us.

All of them all-defensive candidates for sure.

I thought there was a decent chance Simons could have been traded in the Sep 6th - Sep 10th range. He wasn't traded. It would be very surprising if Simons was traded now before the mid-season trade deadline. Looks like Simons is a Celtics player for the foreseeable future. Hopefully he shows interest in defending and does well in a Celtics uniform. The Celtics could use a focused Anfernee Simons this year.

Decent chance Simons would be traded Sep. 6th - Sep. 10th range???

You guaranteed Simons would be gone when players can be aggregated.

Just like you were wrong about Fox being traded, you're also wrong about this one.

What happened to just admitting you were wrong?

Didn't you agree with me and djFan71 to man up when the time comes?

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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#539 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Sep 17, 2025 12:14 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Celticlifer wrote:Isiah Thomas efg career 50.6
Trae-50.4
Brunson 54.7
Simons 53.1

Stop the hate already, this guy is going to be very good for us.

All of them all-defensive candidates for sure.

I thought there was a decent chance Simons could have been traded in the Sep 6th - Sep 10th range. He wasn't traded. It would be very surprising if Simons was traded now before the mid-season trade deadline. Looks like Simons is a Celtics player for the foreseeable future. Hopefully he shows interest in defending and does well in a Celtics uniform. The Celtics could use a focused Anfernee Simons this year.

Decent chance Simons would be traded Sep. 6th - Sep. 10th range???

You guaranteed Simons would be gone when players can be aggregated.

Just like you were wrong about Fox being traded, you're also wrong about this one.

What happened to just admitting you were wrong?

Didn't you agree with me and djFan71 to man up when the time comes?

Dude, there is something wrong with you, maybe go see a doctor.

Celts17Pride wrote:I think Brad Stevens last moves (Simons, Simmons, whoever) will come during the week of Sep 8th. If Simons makes it past the 8th/9th then he probably will make it until mid-season. I still think Simons will be gone sometime in the Sep 7th-9th range.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#540 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Sep 17, 2025 12:17 am

Anfernee Simons should be moved ASAP when we can get literally anything for him because this team needs to tank, pretty simple

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