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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#541 » by CelticFaninLBC » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:12 pm

If Boston has all 4 picks, I expect 3 or 4 picks to New Orleans in the AD deal.

If Ainge holds onto 1 pick, he should draft Bol Bol.
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Post#542 » by thelarrybirdx » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:57 pm

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sam_I_am wrote:Players I like who could fall to Celtics with luck:

Nasir Little
Rui Hashimora
Deandre Hunter
Romeo Langford
?Sekou Doumboya ( really haven’t seen him play )


As a realistic target, I'd really enjoy Reddish. I'd package the SAC, LAC, and BOS pick to move up to draft him.


i guess the 3 picks should be enough to move us to the 5-8 range. He's another SF/PF(more PF tho) and I think that if we don't go for Davis we gonna need to find a PG, regardless of Kyrie staying or going. If we draft Reddish and we don't trade 1 or 2 of Tatum/Brown/Hayward, we'd have 4 SFs on the team again next year.


Always draft BPA regardless of position. I also think my trade will only work if he falls to 7-9.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#543 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:02 pm

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As a realistic target, I'd really enjoy Reddish. I'd package the SAC, LAC, and BOS pick to move up to draft him.


i guess the 3 picks should be enough to move us to the 5-8 range. He's another SF/PF(more PF tho) and I think that if we don't go for Davis we gonna need to find a PG, regardless of Kyrie staying or going. If we draft Reddish and we don't trade 1 or 2 of Tatum/Brown/Hayward, we'd have 4 SFs on the team again next year.


Always draft BPA regardless of position. I also think my trade will only work if he falls to 7-9.


This has proven to not be the case this year as our team has been an absolute mess. So fits definitely matter more than I though they did before.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#544 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:54 pm

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sam_I_am wrote:Players I like who could fall to Celtics with luck:

Nasir Little
Rui Hashimora
Deandre Hunter
Romeo Langford
?Sekou Doumboya ( really haven’t seen him play )


As a realistic target, I'd really enjoy Reddish. I'd package the SAC, LAC, and BOS pick to move up to draft him.


That's a lot to give up for a guy who is only shooting 35% on a stacked team.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#545 » by big-shot-ROB » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:15 pm

Anyone talking about drafting or trading up for Reddish should be banned from this thread.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#546 » by mbsnmisc » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:52 pm

I have no idea if a plant-based diet has anything to do with this families history of ligament/tendon/cartilage injuries, but all four kids have suffered serious injuries. Jontay and both of his sisters have suffered multiple ACL injuries and Michael hurt disks in his back. It might be genetic, but it is a strange coincidence.

This details his families diet:

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/sec/university-of-missouri/article179716846.html

This covers the brothers, but not the sisters. One sister had 5 ACL tears.

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/sec/university-of-missouri/article179716846.html
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#547 » by big-shot-ROB » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:15 am

Probably this isn't the place to do it, but I will post my board and highlight players we should target. This is a strange board, not a mock draft, since I'm valuing players, but not a tier board either, since I have players I like more under players that I don't but will eventually be drafted higher.

FIRST ROUND
1. Zion Williamson
2. Ja Morant
3. Jarrett Culver
4. R.J. Barrett
5. De'Andre Hunter
6. Coby White
7. Darius Garland
8. Bol Bol
9. Brandon Clarke
10. Jaxson Hayes
11. Kevin Porter Jr
12. Romeo Langford
13. Bruno Fernando
14. Keldon Johnson
15. Cameron Reddish
16. Louis King
17. PJ Washington
18. Sekou Doumbouya
19. Goga Bitadze
20. Nassir Little
21. Tyler Herro
22. Rui Hachimura
23. Nickeil Alexander-Walker
24. Mfiondu Kabengele
25. Jontay Porter (might move him to the 2nd round given his second ACL tear)
26. Talen Horton-Tucker
27. KZ Okpala
28. Grant Williams
29. Admiral Schofield
30. Matisse Thybulle

SECOND ROUND (in no particular order)
31. Naz Reid
32. Sagaba Konate
33. Cameron Johnson
34. Tre Jones
34. Ochai Agbaji
35. Chuma Okeke
36. Charles Bassey
37. Luguentz Dort
38. Ignas Brazdeikis
39. Zach Norvell Jr.

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PD: If anyone is interested in breakdowns of any of the players in the leist, PM me or ask it here. This are the players I have fairly seen play/evaluated.
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Post#548 » by FlatearthZorro » Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:18 pm

I know it's a long shot, but I wouldn't mind Barett slipping down to 4-5 if it's ever possible. :D I think people are sleeping on him cause Zion and the fact Morant has been pretty good, too. I think Barrett has a legit opportunity to be best player in this draft. Great length, think he will be a SG, he can pass, shoot, attack the basket, etc. Interesting to me if we can get into the top 5-8 of this draft. I think it's possible and if we don't trade for Davis I feel like Danny will either package all the picks to move up or just maybe trade 2 for 1 in next year's draft?
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#549 » by big-shot-ROB » Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:26 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:I know it's a long shot, but I wouldn't mind Barett slipping down to 4-5 if it's ever possible. :D I think people are sleeping on him cause Zion and the fact Morant has been pretty good, too. I think Barrett has a legit opportunity to be best player in this draft. Great length, think he will be a SG, he can pass, shoot, attack the basket, etc. Interesting to me if we can get into the top 5-8 of this draft. I think it's possible and if we don't trade for Davis I feel like Danny will either package all the picks to move up or just maybe trade 2 for 1 in next year's draft?


Barrett has also too many question marks to trade up for him. He is playing along the greatest college player ever and is attempting 5 FGA more than him. His playing style is of an alpha dog, he will require to be the man. But his game is not of a superstar, and therefore you will mostly end up, in the best situation as a treadmill team.

His shooting is bad, the defense horrendous, his passing is overrated, doesn't have a quick first step, the handle is loose and high, doesn't have quick/twich moving hips, looks akward attaching the basket in half court sets, his finishing right now relies on overpowering defenders and half of his layups won't fly in the NBA.

Again, and I am not going to bet against him because he has the mamba mentality. But I'd prefer other teams to take a chance on him. Best case I think he becomes a superstar in the mold of Westbrook (not in terms of playing style, but rather impact). Though a D.Booker path is one I'd feel more confident projecting (put up box score numbers, never efficient and never translating to winning).

As I've said before I have him up there because of a combination of mock projection and that if I was a GM I'd draft him based solely on trade value.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#550 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:19 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:Anyone talking about drafting or trading up for Reddish should be banned from this thread.


Yah, I dont know how anyone can have watched Reddish play and thought “I want him on my team”. He’s **** terrible.
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Post#551 » by Homerclease » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:36 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
big-shot-ROB wrote:Anyone talking about drafting or trading up for Reddish should be banned from this thread.


Yah, I dont know how anyone can have watched Reddish play and thought “I want him on my team”. He’s **** terrible.

He’s Jeff Green all over again. All the talent and measurements to be a star but can’t string it together
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Post#552 » by jfs1000d » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:33 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Would trade Brown + all four picks for Morant. A Morant-Smart-Tatum 1-2-3 is perfect.

Morant is a STAR

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Post#553 » by threrf23 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:47 pm

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Barrett has also too many question marks to trade up for him. He is playing along the greatest college player ever


lol. Zion's mortality will be exposed against Michigan State this weekend.
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Post#554 » by big-shot-ROB » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:58 pm

threrf23 wrote:
big-shot-ROB wrote:
Barrett has also too many question marks to trade up for him. He is playing along the greatest college player ever


lol. Zion's mortality will be exposed against Michigan State this weekend.


And that does make my affirmation false because ...? He has the highest PER in NCAA history by a mile. Him being mortal (he has his flaws) is not exclusive to him being the best college player ever.
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Post#555 » by Roddy » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:18 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:Probably this isn't the place to do it, but I will post my board and highlight players we should target. This is a strange board, not a mock draft, since I'm valuing players, but not a tier board either, since I have players I like more under players that I don't but will eventually be drafted higher.

FIRST ROUND
1. Zion Williamson
2. Ja Morant
3. Jarrett Culver
4. R.J. Barrett
5. De'Andre Hunter
6. Coby White
7. Darius Garland
8. Bol Bol
9. Brandon Clarke
10. Jaxson Hayes
11. Kevin Porter Jr
12. Romeo Langford
13. Bruno Fernando
14. Keldon Johnson
15. Cameron Reddish
16. Louis King
17. PJ Washington
18. Sekou Doumbouya
19. Goga Bitadze
20. Nassir Little
21. Tyler Herro
22. Rui Hachimura
23. Nickeil Alexander-Walker
24. Mfiondu Kabengele
25. Jontay Porter (might move him to the 2nd round given his second ACL tear)
26. Talen Horton-Tucker
27. KZ Okpala
28. Grant Williams
29. Admiral Schofield
30. Matisse Thybulle

SECOND ROUND (in no particular order)
31. Naz Reid
32. Sagaba Konate
33. Cameron Johnson
34. Tre Jones
34. Ochai Agbaji
35. Chuma Okeke
36. Charles Bassey
37. Luguentz Dort
38. Ignas Brazdeikis
39. Zach Norvell Jr.

Rim-protection/Rebounding/Interior presence Bench playmaking/Scoring/Shooting Bench ball-handling Flyers

PD: If anyone is interested in breakdowns of any of the players in the leist, PM me or ask it here. This are the players I have fairly seen play/evaluated.


Nice work.

I really don't think that Tre Jones will be a 2nd rounder. I wish he ends up in Boston tbh, perfect PG backup.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#556 » by jmr07019 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:29 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:Probably this isn't the place to do it, but I will post my board and highlight players we should target. This is a strange board, not a mock draft, since I'm valuing players, but not a tier board either, since I have players I like more under players that I don't but will eventually be drafted higher.

FIRST ROUND
1. Zion Williamson
2. Ja Morant
3. Jarrett Culver
4. R.J. Barrett
5. De'Andre Hunter
6. Coby White
7. Darius Garland
8. Bol Bol
9. Brandon Clarke
10. Jaxson Hayes
11. Kevin Porter Jr
12. Romeo Langford
13. Bruno Fernando
14. Keldon Johnson
15. Cameron Reddish
16. Louis King
17. PJ Washington
18. Sekou Doumbouya
19. Goga Bitadze
20. Nassir Little
21. Tyler Herro
22. Rui Hachimura
23. Nickeil Alexander-Walker
24. Mfiondu Kabengele
25. Jontay Porter (might move him to the 2nd round given his second ACL tear)
26. Talen Horton-Tucker
27. KZ Okpala
28. Grant Williams
29. Admiral Schofield
30. Matisse Thybulle

SECOND ROUND (in no particular order)
31. Naz Reid
32. Sagaba Konate
33. Cameron Johnson
34. Tre Jones
34. Ochai Agbaji
35. Chuma Okeke
36. Charles Bassey
37. Luguentz Dort
38. Ignas Brazdeikis
39. Zach Norvell Jr.

Rim-protection/Rebounding/Interior presence Bench playmaking/Scoring/Shooting Bench ball-handling Flyers

PD: If anyone is interested in breakdowns of any of the players in the list, PM me or ask it here. This are the players I have fairly seen play/evaluated.


Does deandre hunter have any ability to guard NBA PFs or is he more like a Jaylen Brown type body wise.

I’d like to hear breakdowns on Morant, Culliver, Bol Bol and Hunter.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#557 » by big-shot-ROB » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:50 pm

jmr07019 wrote:
big-shot-ROB wrote:
Spoiler:
Probably this isn't the place to do it, but I will post my board and highlight players we should target. This is a strange board, not a mock draft, since I'm valuing players, but not a tier board either, since I have players I like more under players that I don't but will eventually be drafted higher.

FIRST ROUND
1. Zion Williamson
2. Ja Morant
3. Jarrett Culver
4. R.J. Barrett
5. De'Andre Hunter
6. Coby White
7. Darius Garland
8. Bol Bol
9. Brandon Clarke
10. Jaxson Hayes
11. Kevin Porter Jr
12. Romeo Langford
13. Bruno Fernando
14. Keldon Johnson
15. Cameron Reddish
16. Louis King
17. PJ Washington
18. Sekou Doumbouya
19. Goga Bitadze
20. Nassir Little
21. Tyler Herro
22. Rui Hachimura
23. Nickeil Alexander-Walker
24. Mfiondu Kabengele
25. Jontay Porter (might move him to the 2nd round given his second ACL tear)
26. Talen Horton-Tucker
27. KZ Okpala
28. Grant Williams
29. Admiral Schofield
30. Matisse Thybulle

SECOND ROUND (in no particular order)
31. Naz Reid
32. Sagaba Konate
33. Cameron Johnson
34. Tre Jones
34. Ochai Agbaji
35. Chuma Okeke
36. Charles Bassey
37. Luguentz Dort
38. Ignas Brazdeikis
39. Zach Norvell Jr.

Rim-protection/Rebounding/Interior presence Bench playmaking/Scoring/Shooting Bench ball-handling Flyers

PD: If anyone is interested in breakdowns of any of the players in the list, PM me or ask it here. This are the players I have fairly seen play/evaluated.


Does deandre hunter have any ability to guard NBA PFs or is he more like a Jaylen Brown type body wise.

I’d like to hear breakdowns on Morant, Culliver, Bol Bol and Hunter.


Some sites have him at 6'7, others at 6'8. Hunter looks really big in a college setup but I'd say that won't be the case in the league. One thing he's got going that Brown doesn't is that he really has wide and HIGH shoulders. If you see Brown he shoulders clearly have a decreasing angle while Hunter shoulders are more Leonard-esque.

I'm fairly confident in him going against the Tobias Harris of the world. I think he can also guard bigger and slower guys a-la Gallinari or Mirotic. But I don't think he can be at the 4 full time when going against, let's say Millsap.

As for Hunter, he is the safe bet. Fairly high IQ, team oriented, 3&D player. His handles are really basic at the moment, and he is a better on ball defender than a team one, but he does all the little things that lead to winning. The potential might be more capped (obviously the tools are there, but we can't expect every 6'7/6'8 guy to develop like Leonard, because we end up with fails like S. Johnson).

He projects to be a player in the mold of Otto Porter Jr, Ariza like. I don't think he has the creativity/handle/skill to create for himself at the next level, so don't expect him to be even a secondary creator/playmaker/handler. He tops as one of those 2 needed starters for championship teams. What I'd call the all-star role players.

I don't think Hunter adresses any Celtics needs. Brown might be more dynamic at hunting for his shot, and he is been shooting better lately so I don't think the shooting gap is even a gap between them. I guess he could slide into the spots/splits where tatum has to guard bigger players, specially next season when Morris won't be here (I hope).

But guys like that are fairly easy to find. Okeke is a second round option that brings kind of similar traits (obviously less advanced and elite) that you can pick if you want a big body to defend 3s/4s. And I still like Ojeleye a lot as a future option.

You pick him if he slides into the Kings pick obviously, but those colors I've highlighted is what I've identified as Celtics urgent needs and Hunter doesn't fit those.
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Re: 2019 NBA draft 

Post#558 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:16 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:
jmr07019 wrote:
big-shot-ROB wrote:
Spoiler:
Probably this isn't the place to do it, but I will post my board and highlight players we should target. This is a strange board, not a mock draft, since I'm valuing players, but not a tier board either, since I have players I like more under players that I don't but will eventually be drafted higher.

FIRST ROUND
1. Zion Williamson
2. Ja Morant
3. Jarrett Culver
4. R.J. Barrett
5. De'Andre Hunter
6. Coby White
7. Darius Garland
8. Bol Bol
9. Brandon Clarke
10. Jaxson Hayes
11. Kevin Porter Jr
12. Romeo Langford
13. Bruno Fernando
14. Keldon Johnson
15. Cameron Reddish
16. Louis King
17. PJ Washington
18. Sekou Doumbouya
19. Goga Bitadze
20. Nassir Little
21. Tyler Herro
22. Rui Hachimura
23. Nickeil Alexander-Walker
24. Mfiondu Kabengele
25. Jontay Porter (might move him to the 2nd round given his second ACL tear)
26. Talen Horton-Tucker
27. KZ Okpala
28. Grant Williams
29. Admiral Schofield
30. Matisse Thybulle

SECOND ROUND (in no particular order)
31. Naz Reid
32. Sagaba Konate
33. Cameron Johnson
34. Tre Jones
34. Ochai Agbaji
35. Chuma Okeke
36. Charles Bassey
37. Luguentz Dort
38. Ignas Brazdeikis
39. Zach Norvell Jr.

Rim-protection/Rebounding/Interior presence Bench playmaking/Scoring/Shooting Bench ball-handling Flyers

PD: If anyone is interested in breakdowns of any of the players in the list, PM me or ask it here. This are the players I have fairly seen play/evaluated.


Does deandre hunter have any ability to guard NBA PFs or is he more like a Jaylen Brown type body wise.

I’d like to hear breakdowns on Morant, Culliver, Bol Bol and Hunter.


Some sites have him at 6'7, others at 6'8. Hunter looks really big in a college setup but I'd say that won't be the case in the league. One thing he's got going that Brown doesn't is that he really has wide and HIGH shoulders. If you see Brown he shoulders clearly have a decreasing angle while Hunter shoulders are more Leonard-esque.

I'm fairly confident in him going against the Tobias Harris of the world. I think he can also guard bigger and slower guys a-la Gallinari or Mirotic. But I don't think he can be at the 4 full time when going against, let's say Millsap.

As for Hunter, he is the safe bet. Fairly high IQ, team oriented, 3&D player. His handles are really basic at the moment, and he is a better on ball defender than a team one, but he does all the little things that lead to winning. The potential might be more capped (obviously the tools are there, but we can't expect every 6'7/6'8 guy to develop like Leonard, because we end up with fails like S. Johnson).

He projects to be a player in the mold of Otto Porter Jr, Ariza like. I don't think he has the creativity/handle/skill to create for himself at the next level, so don't expect him to be even a secondary creator/playmaker/handler. He tops as one of those 2 needed starters for championship teams. What I'd call the all-star role players.

I don't think Hunter adresses any Celtics needs. Brown might be more dynamic at hunting for his shot, and he is been shooting better lately so I don't think the shooting gap is even a gap between them. I guess he could slide into the spots/splits where tatum has to guard bigger players, specially next season when Morris won't be here (I hope).

But guys like that are fairly easy to find. Okeke is a second round option that brings kind of similar traits (obviously less advanced and elite) that you can pick if you want a big body to defend 3s/4s. And I still like Ojeleye a lot as a future option.

You pick him if he slides into the Kings pick obviously, but those colors I've highlighted is what I've identified as Celtics urgent needs and Hunter doesn't fit those.


I think youre selling Hunter short as a shooter relative to Brown— he’s legitimately great at it and Brown is not.

Im a big time fan of him— think he could become a near clone of Khris Middleton in the right situation.
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Post#559 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:28 pm

Will be interesting, since some/all picks could be for New Orleans, or we might pick from players they like and players we could use if there’s no trade..

Best case is SAC jumping to 2 or 3, MEM either carrying over or going 9..

But if it’s 9 and 14, for us, I would hope for a slider at 9 - Hachimura? - and I like Culver a lot at 14.

Possible we trade MEM/SAC and keep the other two picks to re-stock our own roster..
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Post#560 » by BroncoCanuck » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:56 pm

I saw a few posts on this thread about Bol Bol possibly dropping to us but I had never seen him play. Oregon did play against my school (Boise State) this year but he broke his foot the week before. After watching his Oregon highlights, I can't understand why more people are not hyping him. He looks like a perfect center for today's game. A very smooth shooting stroke and much longer than most of the centers in this years draft. If we get the Memphis pick at 9-11, I would definitely pick him.

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