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Buyout Thread: If Celtics get a player in buyout market, who would be cut?

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Who would the Celtics cut to open a roster spot for a buyout signing?

Vincent Poirier
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Carsen Edwards
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Javonte Green
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Other, please specify
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There won't be a buyout signing
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Post#541 » by K For Three » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:37 am

IMO if someone is brought in Danny will be very careful not to mess with team chemistry or cause distractions. He learned from last season and this team currently has had really good vibes all season with leadership and hierarchy roles slowly developing too.

So I 100% believe he would pass on IT and already has for those reasons.

I got no idea who he would bring in if someone was brought in but I wouldn't hold my breath either lol.
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Post#542 » by Triple7 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:45 am

Kemba For Three wrote:IMO if someone is brought in Danny will be very careful not to mess with team chemistry or cause distractions. He learned from last season and this team currently has had really good vibes all season with leadership and hierarchy roles slowly developing too.

So I 100% believe he would pass on IT and already has for those reasons.

I got no idea who he would bring in if someone was brought in but I wouldn't hold my breath either lol.


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Post#543 » by K For Three » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:49 am

Triple7 wrote:
Kemba For Three wrote:IMO if someone is brought in Danny will be very careful not to mess with team chemistry or cause distractions. He learned from last season and this team currently has had really good vibes all season with leadership and hierarchy roles slowly developing too.

So I 100% believe he would pass on IT and already has for those reasons.

I got no idea who he would bring in if someone was brought in but I wouldn't hold my breath either lol.


No to IT please No!

I 100% think it won't happen and sounds like it won't.

Fans can fan online about it but it would simply be too much a distraction for a team that has been pretty good at avoiding media junk all year. Nobody wants to rehash IT's time here and the trade for Irving, NOBODY, especially Danny.
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Post#544 » by BigTrade92 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:11 am

Kemba For Three wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
Kemba For Three wrote:IMO if someone is brought in Danny will be very careful not to mess with team chemistry or cause distractions. He learned from last season and this team currently has had really good vibes all season with leadership and hierarchy roles slowly developing too.

So I 100% believe he would pass on IT and already has for those reasons.

I got no idea who he would bring in if someone was brought in but I wouldn't hold my breath either lol.


No to IT please No!

I 100% think it won't happen and sounds like it won't.

Fans can fan online about it but it would simply be too much a distraction for a team that has been pretty good at avoiding media junk all year. Nobody wants to rehash IT's time here and the trade for Irving, NOBODY, especially Danny.

Who’d be rehashing the Kyrie trade? :lol: He’s long gone, Kemba is here and this is Tatum’s team now.

All Isaiah would be doing is sitting on the bench and shooting when called upon by Brad.

People here are doing mental gymnastics to try and find a way to not improve bench scoring, that would only be at the expense of an expendable scrub like Green. Weird stuff.
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Post#545 » by K For Three » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:13 am

BigTrade92 wrote:
Kemba For Three wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
No to IT please No!

I 100% think it won't happen and sounds like it won't.

Fans can fan online about it but it would simply be too much a distraction for a team that has been pretty good at avoiding media junk all year. Nobody wants to rehash IT's time here and the trade for Irving, NOBODY, especially Danny.

Who’d be rehashing the Kyrie trade?

He’s long gone, Kemba is here and this is Tatum’s team now.

All Isaiah is doing is sitting on the bench and shooting when called upon.

People here are do mental gymnastics to try and find a way to not improve bench scoring. Weird.


Media would rehash it and you know it. And IT has always been emotional about his time in Boston.

Also, he isn't that good of a player anymore. He really isn't, why the hell do you think he can't stick on a team either and nobody wants him? Appreciate the time here he had but it's over.
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Post#546 » by BigTrade92 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:15 am

Kemba For Three wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:
Kemba For Three wrote:I 100% think it won't happen and sounds like it won't.

Fans can fan online about it but it would simply be too much a distraction for a team that has been pretty good at avoiding media junk all year. Nobody wants to rehash IT's time here and the trade for Irving, NOBODY, especially Danny.

Who’d be rehashing the Kyrie trade?

He’s long gone, Kemba is here and this is Tatum’s team now.

All Isaiah is doing is sitting on the bench and shooting when called upon.

People here are do mental gymnastics to try and find a way to not improve bench scoring. Weird.


Media would rehash it and you know it. And IT has always been emotional about his time in Boston.

Also, he isn't that good of a player anymore. He really isn't, why the hell do you think he can't stick on a team either and nobody wants him? Appreciate the time here he had but it's over.

Uh no. That would be a story for about a game and that’s about it.

He’d be replacing the 15th guy on the roster who’s currently giving nothing.

Again, you’re doing mental gymnastics to try and explain why this would be a bad idea and you’re coming up empty. The downside of this is literally nothing. The upside is improving the scoring on our 28th ranked bench.
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Post#547 » by K For Three » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:19 am

BigTrade92 wrote:
Kemba For Three wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:Who’d be rehashing the Kyrie trade?

He’s long gone, Kemba is here and this is Tatum’s team now.

All Isaiah is doing is sitting on the bench and shooting when called upon.

People here are do mental gymnastics to try and find a way to not improve bench scoring. Weird.


Media would rehash it and you know it. And IT has always been emotional about his time in Boston.

Also, he isn't that good of a player anymore. He really isn't, why the hell do you think he can't stick on a team either and nobody wants him? Appreciate the time here he had but it's over.

Uh no. That would be a story for about a game and that’s about it.

He’d be replacing the 15th guy on the roster who’s currently giving nothing.

Again, you’re doing mental gymnastics to try and explain why this would be a bad idea and you’re coming up empty. The downside of this is literally nothing. The upside is improving our bench scoring on our 28th ranked bench.


I'm not doing mental gymnastics. IT is not a good player, thats my reasoning. How does bringing in a bad player help us? It doesn't. How do some of these crappy players help us get more wins?

And it's not even up to us. It's up to Danny Ainge so you should call him up if you are that pissed nobody has been brought in yet.
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Post#548 » by BigTrade92 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:23 am

Kemba For Three wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:
Kemba For Three wrote:
Media would rehash it and you know it. And IT has always been emotional about his time in Boston.

Also, he isn't that good of a player anymore. He really isn't, why the hell do you think he can't stick on a team either and nobody wants him? Appreciate the time here he had but it's over.

Uh no. That would be a story for about a game and that’s about it.

He’d be replacing the 15th guy on the roster who’s currently giving nothing.

Again, you’re doing mental gymnastics to try and explain why this would be a bad idea and you’re coming up empty. The downside of this is literally nothing. The upside is improving our bench scoring on our 28th ranked bench.


I'm not doing mental gymnastics. IT is not a good player, thats my reasoning. How does bringing in a bad player help us? It doesn't. How do some of these crappy players help us get more wins?

And it's not even up to us. It's up to Danny Ainge so you should call him up if you are that pissed nobody has been brought in yet.

Again, because he’s replacing the 15th guy on a extremely bad offensive bench that’s not giving us a thing anyway.

No crap Isaiah isn’t the guy he was in 2017. That doesn’t need explaining, but he’s certainly a better option to create offense than a guy like Javonte Green and he’s certainly better than the crap effort Wanamaker gave tonight.

Again, you’re doing these mental gymnastics by equating Isaiah now to the Isaiah of old to make your justification. He doesn’t need to be old IT. He just needs to be a veteran with playoff experience that can hit a shot that a guy like a Edwards, Green, etc won’t.
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Post#549 » by K For Three » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:25 am

BigTrade92 wrote:
Kemba For Three wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:Uh no. That would be a story for about a game and that’s about it.

He’d be replacing the 15th guy on the roster who’s currently giving nothing.

Again, you’re doing mental gymnastics to try and explain why this would be a bad idea and you’re coming up empty. The downside of this is literally nothing. The upside is improving our bench scoring on our 28th ranked bench.


I'm not doing mental gymnastics. IT is not a good player, thats my reasoning. How does bringing in a bad player help us? It doesn't. How do some of these crappy players help us get more wins?

And it's not even up to us. It's up to Danny Ainge so you should call him up if you are that pissed nobody has been brought in yet.

Again, because he’s replacing the 15th guy on a extremely bad offensive bench that’s not giving us a thing anyway.

No crap Isaiah isn’t the guy he was in 2017. That doesn’t need explaining, but he’s certainly a better option to create offense than a guy like Javonte Green and he’s certainly better than the crap effort Wanamaker gave tonight.

Again, you’re doing these mental gymnastics by equating Isaiah now to Isaiah old our to make your justification. He doesn’t need to be old IT. He just needs to be a veteran with playoff experience that can he a shot that a guy like a Edwards, Green, etc won’t.


Again I am not doing mental gymnastics at all no matter how many times you say it.

I keep saying why I don't think IT is a good fit and why I don't like the idea and you keep refusing it and egging me on since you want him to be our 20th man so badly to take two shots a game. I get it, you like the idea. I don't. But guess what? It's not happening either.

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Post#550 » by BigTrade92 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:30 am

Kemba For Three wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:
Kemba For Three wrote:
I'm not doing mental gymnastics. IT is not a good player, thats my reasoning. How does bringing in a bad player help us? It doesn't. How do some of these crappy players help us get more wins?

And it's not even up to us. It's up to Danny Ainge so you should call him up if you are that pissed nobody has been brought in yet.

Again, because he’s replacing the 15th guy on a extremely bad offensive bench that’s not giving us a thing anyway.

No crap Isaiah isn’t the guy he was in 2017. That doesn’t need explaining, but he’s certainly a better option to create offense than a guy like Javonte Green and he’s certainly better than the crap effort Wanamaker gave tonight.

Again, you’re doing these mental gymnastics by equating Isaiah now to Isaiah old our to make your justification. He doesn’t need to be old IT. He just needs to be a veteran with playoff experience that can he a shot that a guy like a Edwards, Green, etc won’t.


Again I am not doing mental gymnastics at all no matter how many times you say it.

I keep saying why I don't think IT is a good fit and why I don't like the idea and you keep refusing it and egging me on since you want him to be our 20th man so badly to take two shots a game. I get it, you like the idea. I don't. But guess what? It's not happening either.

Conversation over.

I don’t really care if you like the idea or not, I didn’t ask.
Since you like it so much, I’ll say it again: you still are doing more mental gymnastics than I’ve ever seen to try and make a case why improving the bench is a bad idea.

And Danny has already made it pretty clear he’s too afraid to improve his bench late in season. That’s pretty obvious. He’s kept bums on like Nader, Ojeleye and now Green for years now and it’s always come to hurt us in the playoffs.

Won’t change much this year either when our thin depth costs us a shot at a title. But hey, at least you didn’t have to see IT return though...
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Post#551 » by CelticsPride18 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:36 am

BigTrade92 wrote:
Kemba For Three wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:Again, because he’s replacing the 15th guy on a extremely bad offensive bench that’s not giving us a thing anyway.

No crap Isaiah isn’t the guy he was in 2017. That doesn’t need explaining, but he’s certainly a better option to create offense than a guy like Javonte Green and he’s certainly better than the crap effort Wanamaker gave tonight.

Again, you’re doing these mental gymnastics by equating Isaiah now to Isaiah old our to make your justification. He doesn’t need to be old IT. He just needs to be a veteran with playoff experience that can he a shot that a guy like a Edwards, Green, etc won’t.


Again I am not doing mental gymnastics at all no matter how many times you say it.

I keep saying why I don't think IT is a good fit and why I don't like the idea and you keep refusing it and egging me on since you want him to be our 20th man so badly to take two shots a game. I get it, you like the idea. I don't. But guess what? It's not happening either.

Conversation over.

I don’t really care if you like the idea or not, I didn’t ask.
Since you like it so much, I’ll say it again: you still are doing more mental gymnastics than I’ve ever seen to try and make a case why improving the bench is a bad idea.

And Danny has already made it pretty clear he’s too afraid to improve his bench late in season. That’s pretty obvious. He’s kept bums on like Nader, Ojeleye and now Green for years now and it’s always come to hurt us in the playoffs.

Won’t change much this year either when our thin depth costs us a shot at a title. But hey, at least you didn’t have to see IT return though...


No way IT can be a meaningful contributor in a playoffs series. Kanter and IT on the floor would be a disaster.
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Post#552 » by BigTrade92 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:40 am

CelticsPride18 wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:
Kemba For Three wrote:
Again I am not doing mental gymnastics at all no matter how many times you say it.

I keep saying why I don't think IT is a good fit and why I don't like the idea and you keep refusing it and egging me on since you want him to be our 20th man so badly to take two shots a game. I get it, you like the idea. I don't. But guess what? It's not happening either.

Conversation over.

I don’t really care if you like the idea or not, I didn’t ask.
Since you like it so much, I’ll say it again: you still are doing more mental gymnastics than I’ve ever seen to try and make a case why improving the bench is a bad idea.

And Danny has already made it pretty clear he’s too afraid to improve his bench late in season. That’s pretty obvious. He’s kept bums on like Nader, Ojeleye and now Green for years now and it’s always come to hurt us in the playoffs.

Won’t change much this year either when our thin depth costs us a shot at a title. But hey, at least you didn’t have to see IT return though...


No way IT can be a meaningful contributor in a playoffs series. Kanter and IT on the floor would be a disaster.

He’s been a meaningful contributor before and he’d be playing a fraction of the minutes alongside Smart.

Again, your nitpicking the 15th man on the roster who’d be in for shooting only.

It’s so mindbogglingly odd for anyone to advocate keeping Green over Isaiah, especially when Wanamaker is playing like a legit liability.
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Post#553 » by Green89 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:42 am

BigTrade92 wrote:
Kemba For Three wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:Uh no. That would be a story for about a game and that’s about it.

He’d be replacing the 15th guy on the roster who’s currently giving nothing.

Again, you’re doing mental gymnastics to try and explain why this would be a bad idea and you’re coming up empty. The downside of this is literally nothing. The upside is improving our bench scoring on our 28th ranked bench.


I'm not doing mental gymnastics. IT is not a good player, thats my reasoning. How does bringing in a bad player help us? It doesn't. How do some of these crappy players help us get more wins?

And it's not even up to us. It's up to Danny Ainge so you should call him up if you are that pissed nobody has been brought in yet.

Again, because he’s replacing the 15th guy on a extremely bad offensive bench that’s not giving us a thing anyway.

No crap Isaiah isn’t the guy he was in 2017. That doesn’t need explaining, but he’s certainly a better option to create offense than a guy like Javonte Green and he’s certainly better than the crap effort Wanamaker gave tonight.

Again, you’re doing these mental gymnastics by equating Isaiah now to the Isaiah of old to make your justification. He doesn’t need to be old IT. He just needs to be a veteran with playoff experience that can hit a shot that a guy like a Edwards, Green, etc won’t.


If IT got Wannamaker's minutes today, we win. Plain and simple. Wannamaker was outright atrocious. 0/4 with 2 points, 3 turnovers, and -11. IT playing on a bad hip could muster more contribution than that.
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Post#554 » by CelticsPride18 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:43 am

BigTrade92 wrote:
CelticsPride18 wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:I don’t really care if you like the idea or not, I didn’t ask.
Since you like it so much, I’ll say it again: you still are doing more mental gymnastics than I’ve ever seen to try and make a case why improving the bench is a bad idea.

And Danny has already made it pretty clear he’s too afraid to improve his bench late in season. That’s pretty obvious. He’s kept bums on like Nader, Ojeleye and now Green for years now and it’s always come to hurt us in the playoffs.


Won’t change much this year either when our thin depth costs us a shot at a title. But hey, at least you didn’t have to see IT return though...


No way IT can be a meaningful contributor in a playoffs series. Kanter and IT on the floor would be a disaster.

He’s been a meaningful contributor before and he’d be playing a fraction of the minutes alongside Smart.

Again, your nitpicking the 15th man on the roster who’d be in for shooting only.

It’s so mindbogglingly odd for anyone to advocate keeping Green over Isaiah, especially when Wanamaker is playing like a legit liability.



He’s the worst defender in the league.
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Post#555 » by BigTrade92 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:44 am

Green89 wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:
Kemba For Three wrote:
I'm not doing mental gymnastics. IT is not a good player, thats my reasoning. How does bringing in a bad player help us? It doesn't. How do some of these crappy players help us get more wins?

And it's not even up to us. It's up to Danny Ainge so you should call him up if you are that pissed nobody has been brought in yet.

Again, because he’s replacing the 15th guy on a extremely bad offensive bench that’s not giving us a thing anyway.

No crap Isaiah isn’t the guy he was in 2017. That doesn’t need explaining, but he’s certainly a better option to create offense than a guy like Javonte Green and he’s certainly better than the crap effort Wanamaker gave tonight.

Again, you’re doing these mental gymnastics by equating Isaiah now to the Isaiah of old to make your justification. He doesn’t need to be old IT. He just needs to be a veteran with playoff experience that can hit a shot that a guy like a Edwards, Green, etc won’t.


If IT got Wannamaker's minutes today, we win. Plain and simple. Wannamaker was outright atrocious. 0/4 with 2 points, 3 turnovers, and -11. IT playing on a bad hip could muster more contribution than that.

Without a doubt.

It’s borderline embarrassing to see these anti-Isaiah people trying to tell everyone guys like Wanamaker and Green are an improvement over him.
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Post#556 » by K For Three » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:44 am

IT stans never died, they just hibernated.
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Post#557 » by Green89 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:46 am

CelticsPride18 wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:
CelticsPride18 wrote:
No way IT can be a meaningful contributor in a playoffs series. Kanter and IT on the floor would be a disaster.

He’s been a meaningful contributor before and he’d be playing a fraction of the minutes alongside Smart.

Again, your nitpicking the 15th man on the roster who’d be in for shooting only.

It’s so mindbogglingly odd for anyone to advocate keeping Green over Isaiah, especially when Wanamaker is playing like a legit liability.



He’s the worst defender in the league.


And yet he still would have been a more positive contribution to the game today than Wannamaker.
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Post#558 » by BigTrade92 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:46 am

CelticsPride18 wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:
CelticsPride18 wrote:
No way IT can be a meaningful contributor in a playoffs series. Kanter and IT on the floor would be a disaster.

He’s been a meaningful contributor before and he’d be playing a fraction of the minutes alongside Smart.

Again, your nitpicking the 15th man on the roster who’d be in for shooting only.

It’s so mindbogglingly odd for anyone to advocate keeping Green over Isaiah, especially when Wanamaker is playing like a legit liability.



He’s the worst defender in the league.

Except for the fact that we have the 28th ranked bench and we need offense. You’re now over analyzing the defense of the 15th man on the team, talk about nonsense...

Kemba was also the worst defender in the league so said everyone in the pre-season. So was Kanter and Theis sucked as well.

Apparently defense, while an individual skill, is mostly a team thing. Huh...who would’ve thought?
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Post#559 » by K For Three » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:47 am

Green89 wrote:
CelticsPride18 wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:He’s been a meaningful contributor before and he’d be playing a fraction of the minutes alongside Smart.

Again, your nitpicking the 15th man on the roster who’d be in for shooting only.

It’s so mindbogglingly odd for anyone to advocate keeping Green over Isaiah, especially when Wanamaker is playing like a legit liability.



He’s the worst defender in the league.


And yet he still would have been a more positive contribution to the game today than Wannamaker.

Which we have no way of proving since IT rarely contributes anything positive to professional basketball since he left Boston.
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Post#560 » by 31to6 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:48 am

BigTrade92 wrote:
Kemba For Three wrote:
BigTrade92 wrote:Again, because he’s replacing the 15th guy on a extremely bad offensive bench that’s not giving us a thing anyway.

No crap Isaiah isn’t the guy he was in 2017. That doesn’t need explaining, but he’s certainly a better option to create offense than a guy like Javonte Green and he’s certainly better than the crap effort Wanamaker gave tonight.

Again, you’re doing these mental gymnastics by equating Isaiah now to Isaiah old our to make your justification. He doesn’t need to be old IT. He just needs to be a veteran with playoff experience that can he a shot that a guy like a Edwards, Green, etc won’t.


Again I am not doing mental gymnastics at all no matter how many times you say it.

I keep saying why I don't think IT is a good fit and why I don't like the idea and you keep refusing it and egging me on since you want him to be our 20th man so badly to take two shots a game. I get it, you like the idea. I don't. But guess what? It's not happening either.

Conversation over.

I don’t really care if you like the idea or not, I didn’t ask.
Since you like it so much, I’ll say it again: you still are doing more mental gymnastics than I’ve ever seen to try and make a case why improving the bench is a bad idea.

And Danny has already made it pretty clear he’s too afraid to improve his bench late in season. That’s pretty obvious. He’s kept bums on like Nader, Ojeleye and now Green for years now and it’s always come to hurt us in the playoffs.

Won’t change much this year either when our thin depth costs us a shot at a title. But hey, at least you didn’t have to see IT return though...


IT: -10 net rating, 120 defensive rating, 53% TS -- and that's the best he's played in years, and he's now out of the league.
Yet you think bringing him in will improve our bench. Got it.

So like I said in our boring back-and-forth last page, before your totally redundant back-and-forth with KFT on this page, let's see if it happens. Let's see if the Celtics bring in IT! [spoiler alert: they are not] Now pay attention: you might learn a thing or two. And it would be helpful for you (and for us bothering to try to argue with you) for you to figure out why. Or you might just say "Danny is too afraid to improve his bench", leaving us to have to decide whether Danny Ainge is in fact "afraid" or whether -- despite spending hours posting about this team on a message board -- you just don't get how it all works. Hmmm..
Paul Pierce appreciation society.

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