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bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #541 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:31 am

This could strengthen the T Wolves against the Celtics but they have to get by Dallas, OKC, etc.

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #542 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:35 am

Celtics open the season against the Knicks and now they can roll out Kat against Horford...
Knick fans will be very enthused.

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #543 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:52 am

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ConstableGeneva · Post #544 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:14 am

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Ehhhh, not really. Both Ant and Randle need the ball. Shooting is worse. Both bigs operate inside which clogs Ant's driving lane. That lineup sucks offensively actually.

Post #545 » by **Darthlukey** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:17 am

I have soured on kat over the years, but gee the knicks robbed the wolves blind

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #546 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:18 am

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bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #547 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:21 am

Aggo - Knicks Board

I watched Boston

I watched us

and my only logical conclusion was, we needed KAT to beat them. specifically how they play defense and switching.

play 5 out.

we would've never beaten Boston playing Mitch or ihart as a starter.

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #548 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:22 am

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ConstableGeneva · Post #549 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:23 am

Darthlukey wrote:I have soured on kat over the years, but gee the knicks robbed the wolves blind

We might be the victims of something similar once we unload our big guns. The super high paryroll is just not sustainable. Funny enough, Wolves are bringing in new owners too. This move is largely $$-based.

redslastlaugh · Post #550 » by **redslastlaugh** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:24 am

Seems like a luxury tax move by the Wolves to me more so than that they wanted Randle. It’s KAT for DiVincenzo + FRP (that may never even convey) … but the Wolves get massive tax relief when Randle declines his option after the year. Maybe they even flip Randle again before the deadline. Donte has a pretty sweet contract for the next three years, he’s like making $11-$12 a year

EDIT: Honestly, thinking about it for a few minutes here, it seems like the Denver Nuggets are the winner of this trade, lol

titlebound1 · Post #551 » by **titlebound1** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:40 am

Meh. KAT is nothing special. Celtics in 5

Jellybeans · Post #552 » by **Jellybeans** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:29 am

Doenst really move a needle.
On paper they got better on O fit wise but they just lost Donte who was shooting like 10 3s a game and was huge hustle guy with that.
Cant say that about KAT and he gets trigger happy for 3

Cuban Pete · Post #553 » by **Cuban Pete** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:43 am

Darthlukey wrote:I have soured on kat over the years, but gee the knicks robbed the wolves blind

I think the Wolves are getting the Pistons #1 pick which they dealt to the Knicks in a previous trade. If that's the case, then it's the other way around. Moreover, Randle could be entering his contract year, assuming he doesn't pick up his $30mil player option. KAT is locked up for four years ($61mil player option on the fourth year) so this is a huge salary dump.

Post #554 » by **Darthlukey** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:01 am

Cuban Pete wrote:
Darthlukey wrote:I have soured on kat over the years, but gee the knicks robbed the wolves blind

I think the Wolves are getting the Pistons #1 pick which they dealt to the Knicks in a previous trade. If that's the case, then it's the other way around. Moreover, Randle could be entering his contract year, assuming he doesn't pick up his $30mil player option. KAT is locked up for four years ($61mil player option on the fourth year) so this is a huge salary dump.

That 1st is pretty heavily protected I think, as in it's almost sure to be a 2nd instead. I mean, it's obviously a salary dump. But it feels like they should have got more

keevsnick1 · Post #555 » by **keevsnick1** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:12 am

KAT fits great offensively for the Knicks. They went from probably playing a Randle/Robinson 4/5 which provides zero spacing to now a Brunson/Hart/Bridges/OG/KAT starting five that will provide very good spacing around Brunson. Thats a pretty good lineup offensively.

Defense will be a bigger issue. They now have a mediocre at best defensive center in KAT who can be attacked combined with an undersized PG who can be attacked. That puts a lot of defensive pressure on the wings to not only guard their guy but help on defense as well. And that's the difference of Knicks vs Celtics, Celtics get the awesome spacing while also having no weak links on defense.

As for the Wolves, this feels like a money move. They save about 10 million this year in straight salary which is A LOT of luxury tax. Randle and DVV are good players, even if their fit is weird. A Randle/Gobert front court really lacks shooting.

FlatearthZorro · Post #556 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:44 am

Light work... If Porzingod is available for the playoffs, nobody comes close... We'd abuse these guys.

C's in 5.

FlatearthZorro · Post #557 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:45 am

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I hope we meet in the playoffs, both teams healthy. Light work....

I truly believe this C's squad is one of the greatest teams ever assembled... With very little to no faults.

Fierce1 · Post #558 » by **Fierce1** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:57 am

Jellybeans wrote:Doenst really move a needle.
On paper they got better on O fit wise but they just lost Donte who was shooting like 10 3s a game and was huge hustle guy with that.
Cant say that about KAT and he gets trigger happy for 3

Agree.

A case of one step forward and one step backward.

Fierce1 · Post #559 » by **Fierce1** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:03 am

The ideal would've been to swap Randle for a big.

By losing DiVincenzo, the Knicks lost a shooter and some good defense.

JaMarco · Post #560 » by **JaMarco** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 1:25 pm

You're delusional if you don't think this a tremendous trade for the Knicks. Got the best player in the deal and didn't give up any studs. Cs are probably still somewhat better but Knicks have closed the gap.

Horrendous trade for the Wolves, has to be that they weren't willing to pay for a contender and choose to salary dump.