Buyout Thread: If Celtics get a player in buyout market, who would be cut?

[BigTrade92]

He’s the worst defender in the league.

And yet he still would have been a more positive contribution to the game today than Wannamaker.

Which we have no way of proving since IT rarely contributes anything positive to professional basketball since he left Boston.

But we can prove that Wanamaker sucks and that this bench as currently constructed sucks.

So we shouldn’t try something different and improve it because...why? Oh no reason, just because you hate the thought of an IT return. Intelligent stuff...

[K For Three]

And yet he still would have been a more positive contribution to the game today than Wannamaker.

Which we have no way of proving since IT rarely contributes anything positive to professional basketball since he left Boston.

But we can prove that Wanamaker sucks and that this bench as currently constructed sucks.

So we shouldn’t try something different and improve it because...why? Oh no reason, just because you hate the thought of an IT return. Intelligent stuff...

Aren't you the dude who wanted Drummond really bad?

I am sorry you like players who aren't going to help us.

[Green89]

He’s the worst defender in the league.

And yet he still would have been a more positive contribution to the game today than Wannamaker.

Which we have no way of proving since IT rarely contributes anything positive to professional basketball since he left Boston.

Maybe you forgot he put up 12.2ppg this season in Washington over 40 games, starting 37 of those. Brad W. is at 6.6ppg.

[BigTrade92]

Which we have no way of proving since IT rarely contributes anything positive to professional basketball since he left Boston.

But we can prove that Wanamaker sucks and that this bench as currently constructed sucks.

So we shouldn’t try something different and improve it because...why? Oh no reason, just because you hate the thought of an IT return. Intelligent stuff...

Aren't you the dude who wanted Drummond really bad?

I am sorry you like players who aren't going to help us.

Yes in addition with a guy like Bertans or Gallo for Hayward. That was the proposal. I’d make that trade in a second, but it wasn’t in the cards.

Seems you like having a sh*t bench. You must really want this team to get bounced in the second round, huh?

[BigTrade92]

And yet he still would have been a more positive contribution to the game today than Wannamaker.

Which we have no way of proving since IT rarely contributes anything positive to professional basketball since he left Boston.

Maybe you forgot he put up 12.2ppg this season in Washington over 40 games, starting 37 of those. Brad W. is at 6.6ppg.

Ssshhhh don’t provide them evidence of the fact that Isaiah can still shoot, which is the thing we desperately lack and need off the bench. It ruins their narrative. They just want to blindly pretend he doesn’t exist.

11 bench points against LA. 10 against Minny. To honestly sit there say this bench couldn’t use a scoring PG when you got Wanamaker playing like ass and no one behind him is just pure craziness.

[Green89]

Which we have no way of proving since IT rarely contributes anything positive to professional basketball since he left Boston.

Maybe you forgot he put up 12.2ppg this season in Washington over 40 games, starting 37 of those. Brad W. is at 6.6ppg.

Ssshhhh don’t provide them evidence of the fact that Isaiah can still shoot, which is the thing we desperately lack and need off the bench. They just want to blindly pretend he doesn’t exist.

OK

Spoiler:

IT shooting 40/41/82

[CelticsPride18]

Which we have no way of proving since IT rarely contributes anything positive to professional basketball since he left Boston.

Maybe you forgot he put up 12.2ppg this season in Washington over 40 games, starting 37 of those. Brad W. is at 6.6ppg.

Ssshhhh don’t provide them evidence of the fact that Isaiah can still shoot, which is the thing we desperately lack and need off the bench. It ruins their narrative. They just want to blindly pretend he doesn’t exist.

11 bench points against LA. 10 against Minny. To honestly sit there say this bench couldn’t use a scoring PG when you got Wanamaker playing like ass and no one behind him is just pure craziness.

I love IT but he’s washed. He has no explosion he might get you 10 pts but he will allow 20.

[Green89]

Maybe you forgot he put up 12.2ppg this season in Washington over 40 games, starting 37 of those. Brad W. is at 6.6ppg.

Ssshhhh don’t provide them evidence of the fact that Isaiah can still shoot, which is the thing we desperately lack and need off the bench. It ruins their narrative. They just want to blindly pretend he doesn’t exist.

11 bench points against LA. 10 against Minny. To honestly sit there say this bench couldn’t use a scoring PG when you got Wanamaker playing like ass and no one behind him is just pure craziness.

I love IT but he’s washed. He has no explosion he might get you 10 pts but he will allow 20.

Still a better net than Wannamaker getting 2 points and giving up 15. (-10 > -13).

[31to6]

Maybe you forgot he put up 12.2ppg this season in Washington over 40 games, starting 37 of those. Brad W. is at 6.6ppg.

Ssshhhh don’t provide them evidence of the fact that Isaiah can still shoot, which is the thing we desperately lack and need off the bench. They just want to blindly pretend he doesn’t exist.

OK

IT shooting 40/41/82

Wanamaker shooting 43/38/92 and a defensive rating of 103 vs IT's 120 (higher is bad).

[CelticsPride18]

Ssshhhh don’t provide them evidence of the fact that Isaiah can still shoot, which is the thing we desperately lack and need off the bench. It ruins their narrative. They just want to blindly pretend he doesn’t exist.

11 bench points against LA. 10 against Minny. To honestly sit there say this bench couldn’t use a scoring PG when you got Wanamaker playing like ass and no one behind him is just pure craziness.

I love IT but he’s washed. He has no explosion he might get you 10 pts but he will allow 20.

Still a better net than Wannamaker getting 2 points and giving up 15. (-10 > -13).

He sucked but it wasn’t his completely his fault Kanter was on that second quarter lineup and he was terrible too. It was just a bad lineup by Brad having him as the main ball handler. IT is done. If he had anything left in the tank he wouldn’t have been cut by the Clippers.

[31to6]

Ssshhhh don’t provide them evidence of the fact that Isaiah can still shoot, which is the thing we desperately lack and need off the bench. It ruins their narrative. They just want to blindly pretend he doesn’t exist.

11 bench points against LA. 10 against Minny. To honestly sit there say this bench couldn’t use a scoring PG when you got Wanamaker playing like ass and no one behind him is just pure craziness.

I love IT but he’s washed. He has no explosion he might get you 10 pts but he will allow 20.

Still a better net than Wannamaker getting 2 points and giving up 15. (-10 > -13).

IT net rating of -10, Wanamaker +5 (higher is better).
https://stats.nba.com/player/202954/

Also for the whatevereth time we don't need Wanamaker to score. We have four premier perimeter scorers, two of whom are on the court at any time, and Wanamaker's job is to use his 6'3" 209lb frame to play good D, push it in transition, move the ball, and make open shots.

OR to put it another way, do you want IT taking shots from
a. Tatum
b. Walker
c. Brown
d. Hayward
e. Smart

because after that it's just scraps and we have the 5th highest offensive rating in the league (https://stats.nba.com/teams/advanced/?sort=OFF_RATING&dir=-1) while also sporting the 3rd best defensive rating (https://stats.nba.com/teams/advanced/?sort=DEF_RATING&dir=-1) so it seems highly unlikely we're going to bring in one of the absolute worst defenders in the league (actually he's now out of the league) and play him any minutes.

[Dogen]

Maybe you forgot he put up 12.2ppg this season in Washington over 40 games, starting 37 of those. Brad W. is at 6.6ppg.

Ssshhhh don’t provide them evidence of the fact that Isaiah can still shoot, which is the thing we desperately lack and need off the bench. It ruins their narrative. They just want to blindly pretend he doesn’t exist.

11 bench points against LA. 10 against Minny. To honestly sit there say this bench couldn’t use a scoring PG when you got Wanamaker playing like ass and no one behind him is just pure craziness.

I love IT but he’s washed. He has no explosion he might get you 10 pts but he will allow 20.

Brad's system with IT was about maximizing his offense and hiding him on defense. As a bench player, yeah, he'd put up some numbers, but since the Celtics are already being outscored by other teams' benches, I agree IT is not a good choice. If you're coming off the bench for Miami, Milwaukee, Toronto, etc, and you look down the court and see Kanter and IT ready to greet you on defense, that is a happy moment in your life.

Honestly I'd rather have Lance Stevenson at this point. Lance is a head case, but was hitting the three at a good clip, has some size to defend, and is a good passer. Also, I am increasingly of the opinion that this team could use a head case. Marcus and Lance would be entertaining, to say the least. They could bring that bench mob mentality back to the C's; it's too much to expect Grant and Romeo are going to be able to step up at this point in their careers. This team needs someone with a nasty streak honestly.

[themoneyteam2]

IT isn’t coming back lol. If they wanted him he would already be signed. They do need more shooting off the bench because Wanamaker isn’t gonna cut it come playoff time

[zoyathedestroya]

If we need another ballhandler, I think someone like Tyler Johnson can play ahead of and better than Wanamaker. Always liked him when he was with Miami. Got overpaid but for the rest-of-season minimum, I wouldn't mind adding him at the expense of Javonte Green.

[BRUNiNHO91]

If we need another ballhandler, I think someone like Tyler Johnson can play ahead of and better than Wanamaker. Always liked him when he was with Miami. Got overpaid but for the rest-of-season minimum, I wouldn't mind adding him at the expense of Javonte Green.

I was kind of hoping for Evan Turner. Knows the system, Brad uses him well, he gets to the paint, good passer, good rebounder, good defender when he wants to be..doesn't shoot the 3 well though..but imo he's a clear upgrade over Wanamaker and Ojeleye.

[CelticsPride18]

If we need another ballhandler, I think someone like Tyler Johnson can play ahead of and better than Wanamaker. Always liked him when he was with Miami. Got overpaid but for the rest-of-season minimum, I wouldn't mind adding him at the expense of Javonte Green.

I was kind of hoping for Evan Turner. Knows the system, Brad uses him well, he gets to the paint, good passer, good rebounder, good defender when he wants to be..doesn't shoot the 3 well though..but imo he's a clear upgrade over Wanamaker and Ojeleye.

Evan Turner has been terrible since leaving Boston. He’s also kind of a ballhawk

[snowman]

Guys calling to pick up IT, need to understand we already have IT on the team. His name is Carson Edwards. Only difference is IT is 30 years old, and Edwards is 21. Sure IT scores around 12 a game, but he gives up around the same. Which is why Edwards is getting no time. That and the fact that somewhere between Maine and Boston he keeps losing his shot. Maybe we need to put out an APB for the thief that keeps stealing Edwards shot.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

at people calling for IT to come back. Our bench sucks, but it's not bad enough to bring Isaiah back. I'm sorry.

[CelticsPride18]

:lol: at people calling for IT to come back. Our bench sucks, but it's not bad enough to bring Isaiah back. I'm sorry.

Imagine IT and Kanter guarding the PnR.

[Celts17Pride]

As things currently stand, the Boston Celtics bench ranks 28th in the league in points-per-game averages (28.1), 27th in 3-point percentage (31.5) and 21st in the league in offensive rating (52.5).