It's a Tragedy to see the Deadline's Over Post Trade Thread

[zoyathedestroya]

I’m really excited to watch the team Tbh as long as we don’t get Drummond. Time lord needs every single minute he can get and we need a clear rotation hopefully now. Pritchard gets the minutes, time lord etc. be interesting to watch

I agree but would be more excited if the Celtics can drop Kornet and pick up a KO, Potter Jr, Dieng etc. someone that could possibly carve out a role for next year. Not real interested in a LMA, Drummond.

I thought at the beginning of this season that Kelly would make a ton of sense on this team right now. Can space off the bench and make passes to cutters. Obviously knows the system. Kind of a perfect backup to Rob.

I'm all-in on OPJ. More wings please. I think he's already earned a billion dollars in his career so maybe we can re-sign him for a dollar next season.

[fallguy]

"The Celtics have missed Gordon Hayward. But they were able to use the trade exception created from Hayward’s departure to replace him. Fournier gives them somebody who can play on or off the ball and, most important, bumps a bunch of guys down one spot in the Celtics’ rotation.

Five numbers to know

Fournier has shot 36-for-87 (41.4%) on pull-up 3s, the sixth best mark among 50 players who’ve attempted at least 75.

Fournier has seen the ninth-biggest jump in free throw rate (from 23.7 to 33.3 attempts per 100 shots from the field) among 204 players with at least 200 field goal attempts in each of the last two seasons.

68% of the Celtics’ games (30/44), the league’s highest rate, have been within five points in the last five minutes. They’re 11-19 in those games (with six straight losses going into the deadline) and 10-4 otherwise. They rank 28th in clutch offense, having scored just 98.2 points per 100 possessions with the score within five in the last five minutes of the fourth quarter or overtime. Kemba Walker (2-for-13) and Marcus Smart (1-for-9) have combined to shoot 3-for-22 (14%) on clutch 3s. Fournier finished his Magic career with a game-winning drive against Phoenix, but his 16-for-71 (22.5%) on clutch 3s over the last three seasons is the worst mark among 46 players with at least 50 attempts over that stretch.

Kemba Walker, Marcus Smart, Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum have played just 101 total minutes together this season.

For the second straight season, Wagner leads the league in drawn charges per 36 minutes (1.1)."

From: https://www.nba.com/news/2021-nba-trade-deadline-notes-and-numbers

[SmartWentCrazy]

Why the **** does this Ainge “almost traded for” news always comes out? It only makes people more angry or laugh if you are fans of other teams.

I truly hate that he does it

[djFan71]

OPJ would be my fav as well. Another TALL wing is what we still need most.

[CelticsPride18]

OPJ would be my fav as well. Another TALL wing is what we still need most.

He’s not getting a buyout. Could be a candidate of the remainder of the TPe in the offseason.

[zoyathedestroya]

How do we fix our defense? Anyone know?

Is it just an effort thing? Youth and inexperience? Lack of cohesion due to too many guys going in and out of rotation? Main guys too focused on offense/scoring?

The dropoff from last season has truly been astounding.

[Andrew McCeltic]

68% of the Celtics’ games (30/44), the league’s highest rate, have been within five points in the last five minutes. They’re 11-19 in those games (with six straight losses going into the deadline) and 10-4 otherwise. They rank 28th in clutch offense, having scored just 98.2 points per 100 possessions with the score within five in the last five minutes of the fourth quarter or overtime. Kemba Walker (2-for-13) and Marcus Smart (1-for-9) have combined to shoot 3-for-22 (14%) on clutch 3s. Fournier finished his Magic career with a game-winning drive against Phoenix, but his 16-for-71 (22.5%) on clutch 3s over the last three seasons is the worst mark among 46 players with at least 50 attempts over that stretch.

From: https://www.nba.com/news/2021-nba-trade-deadline-notes-and-numbers

JFC

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

How do we fix our defense? Anyone know?

Is it just an effort thing? Youth and inexperience? Lack of cohesion due to too many guys going in and out of rotation? Main guys too focused on offense/scoring?

The dropoff from last season has truly been astounding.

Easiest way is to stop complaining about lack of calls and get their butts back on defense.

They also need to stop moping when they miss shots are in a scoring drought. That’s actually the time when good players crank it up on defense.

[Celtics_Champs]

Why the **** does this Ainge “almost traded for” news always comes out? It only makes people more angry or laugh if you are fans of other teams.

I truly hate that he does it

Here is a tuna sandwich

Hey this aint half bad.

Well, I could've gotten you Steak, but that would have taken a tiny bit more effort. How's that tuna tho?

[Andrew McCeltic]

How do we fix our defense? Anyone know?

Is it just an effort thing? Youth and inexperience? Lack of cohesion due to too many guys going in and out of rotation? Main guys too focused on offense/scoring?

The dropoff from last season has truly been astounding.

Defense is effort, my theory is that this team knows they can’t match last year’s performance, or improve on it, they’re demoralized by the downgrade, and instead of focusing on team and individual improvement, they’re hanging their heads. With more effort they could be a good regular season team with zero chance to beat Philly or Brooklyn.

[BK_2020]

Maybe we can bring over Yam Madar now

[La Flame]

How do we fix our defense? Anyone know?

Is it just an effort thing? Youth and inexperience? Lack of cohesion due to too many guys going in and out of rotation? Main guys too focused on offense/scoring?

The dropoff from last season has truly been astounding.

Effort I guess? But in NBA in general, sometimes I watch a game and it's like these guys are just taking turns shooting 3s out there. The game has lost a lot of emotion and fire and the refs aren't helping lmao. You cant touch the offensive player, you cant celebrate a play, cant even look at the player after dunking on him.

[zoyathedestroya]

68% of the Celtics’ games (30/44), the league’s highest rate, have been within five points in the last five minutes. They’re 11-19 in those games (with six straight losses going into the deadline) and 10-4 otherwise. They rank 28th in clutch offense, having scored just 98.2 points per 100 possessions with the score within five in the last five minutes of the fourth quarter or overtime. Kemba Walker (2-for-13) and Marcus Smart (1-for-9) have combined to shoot 3-for-22 (14%) on clutch 3s. Fournier finished his Magic career with a game-winning drive against Phoenix, but his 16-for-71 (22.5%) on clutch 3s over the last three seasons is the worst mark among 46 players with at least 50 attempts over that stretch.

From: https://www.nba.com/news/2021-nba-trade-deadline-notes-and-numbers

JFC

As I posted in the regular season thread, previous 5 seasons, we've had a top 8 clutch offensive rating. So like our defense this season, this has been an aberration.

It just feels like we were a stable Jenga tower the past few years, holding steady even as we remove one piece after another then we suddenly crumbled with Hayward as the last straw/Jenga piece.

[basketballRob]

I bet Fournier's agent already came to an agreement on the framework of a deal before the trade. My guess is 4yr/72m.

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[KingofTheClay]

How do we fix our defense? Anyone know?

Is it just an effort thing? Youth and inexperience? Lack of cohesion due to too many guys going in and out of rotation? Main guys too focused on offense/scoring?

The dropoff from last season has truly been astounding.

Fatigue and lack of playmakers on offense is making it much harder for us to play with energy or consistency on defense.

Getting a sniper shooter in Fournier who can also handle the ball and facilitate really takes a huge load off our main guys and direct more of their energy on. Defensive end


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[Bad-Thoma]

Why the **** does this Ainge “almost traded for” news always comes out? It only makes people more angry or laugh if you are fans of other teams.

I truly hate that he does it

I'm curious what makes people certain it's him that does it?

[bisme37]

When I think of Otto Porter all I can think of is this haha...

[zoyathedestroya]

When I think of Otto Porter all I can think of is this haha...

Have Timelord with him on the floor always. Rob can fix that.

[Bad-Thoma]

How do we fix our defense? Anyone know?

Is it just an effort thing? Youth and inexperience? Lack of cohesion due to too many guys going in and out of rotation? Main guys too focused on offense/scoring?

The dropoff from last season has truly been astounding.

Effort I guess? But in NBA in general, sometimes I watch a game and it's like these guys are just taking turns shooting 3s out there. The game has lost a lot of emotion and fire and the refs aren't helping lmao. You cant touch the offensive player, you cant celebrate a play, cant even look at the player after dunking on him.

I think all this along with the team belonging to 2 really young guys that are learning how to step into the role of leader very early in their careers. I think there might be just as much mental fatigue as physical this season with the new roles, the messed up schedule with no real preseason, all the injury/protocol turnover, the trade rumors, etc. The mental toughness just isn't where it needs to be but the seasons not over and the window is still opening.

That, and some screaming Boston fans might help as well.

[Feed Your Head]

I can't believe Danny does this every **** time. There is no reason to say you got close to get Vuc. There is no **** reason.

You got Fournier. Live with it. You don't have to leak every single time how close you were to deals.

I don’t know a ton about the Vuc thing. But one thing I can vouch for is that the Magic didn’t even give Danny a chance to match the Nuggets deal for Gordon, he’d have given another pick.

Oh well.