100 Pages & Running: The FA/Trade Thread.

[poopship]

I don't even know who's available anymore though. Does this free agent ticker look up to date? https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/available/
And are there other buy-outs than Gallo out there?

[cl2117]

Suns fan here reading along in this thread. Saw that you guys might want Jae back. Would your FO do a Jae for Grant Williams swap. I assume you could take the balance of Jae's salary into your trade exemption.

I ask because he seems like he'd be a decent dirty work guy who'd fit on Phoenix (with or without KD). Just curious. Thanks.

That won't happen.

Fair enough. Are you guys looking to keep and re-up him?

Not that Bill Simmons speaks for the Celtic FO but on his podcast he seems to think Grant has slightly worn out his welcome there. I imagine he has a least a cpl sources in the organization.

What do you think you'd want for him? Provided he's available.

Nah he seems really well loved in the organization. They're talking early extension with him like they did with Robert Williams last year. Don't see him being moved unless it was in a package for a much better player.

[poopship]

Bill Simmons is a gambling peddling ghoul *listening to his pod*

[zoyathedestroya]

But seriously one thing that Gallo can add to our offense is his ability to post up guys. He's been in the 80th percentile in 3 of the last 4 seasons in postup efficiency. When possessions bog down, we can just force a mismatch and let him get to work in the post. Not sure how good of a passer he is from there but I don't imagine him commanding too many double teams. He can just turn and shoot over smaller defenders.

[cl2117]

Zach Lowe mentions in recent pod that there are rumblings that Jaylen Brown would like to test unrestricted free agent market. Which shouldn't surprise anyone.

Nets are gonna be bummed.

Which would make him less attractive to them.

Suns, Heat, Raptors, Pelicans were mentioned as the strongest suitors for KD.

Moderately less attractive, but I still have him as the best single asset being offered unless Booker is out there.

If I'm the Nets I still take Ayton/Bridges and picks though. That seems like a perfect rebuild package. Then dump Kyrie for something.

I'm still firmly in the keep Jaylen camp, but not gonna lie the idea of him walking in two years as an UFA because he was a bit salty about being in these types of trade talks and always 2nd banana to Tatum does make me nervous. Issue is what else has to go with JB to get KD because it starts to get too pricey real quick in my eyes.

[darrendaye]

I don't even know who's available anymore though. Does this free agent ticker look up to date? https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/available/
And are there other buy-outs than Gallo out there?

No one offered an answer to a question I posted in the prior thread, but, if Spotrac is to be believed, it looks like the Knicks would technically be a bit over 2mm over the cap accounting for signings of Brunson and Hartenstein. If true, Taj Gibson's unguaranteed contract could cause him to be waived. Though he is a NYer and could very well re-sign at minimum with Knicks or sign with Nets rather than be a realistic target for the C''s.

Don't know of any other players with buyout rumors swirling but I'm sure there are other non or partially guaranteed contracts that could be in jeopardy if their teams have a free agent willing to bite the hook.

[Froob]

I don’t really see why Nets would want Jaylen with only two years left. Brad outta come out and give re assurance that we won’t trade Jaylen.

[Froob]

That won't happen.

Fair enough. Are you guys looking to keep and re-up him?

Not that Bill Simmons speaks for the Celtic FO but on his podcast he seems to think Grant has slightly worn out his welcome there. I imagine he has a least a cpl sources in the organization.

What do you think you'd want for him? Provided he's available.

Nah he seems really well loved in the organization. They're talking early extension with him like they did with Robert Williams last year. Don't see him being moved unless it was in a package for a much better player.

I’d be so mad if we dealt Grant for Jae lol. Grant has way too much value in a conference with Giannis. I wouldn’t deal Grant in any trade that doesn’t bring back a star.

[zoyathedestroya]

I don’t really see why Nets would want Jaylen with only two years left. Brad outta come out and give re assurance that we won’t trade Jaylen.

He doesn't have to do it publicly. I think he's already done it privately.

[Slim Charless]

Fair enough. Are you guys looking to keep and re-up him?

Not that Bill Simmons speaks for the Celtic FO but on his podcast he seems to think Grant has slightly worn out his welcome there. I imagine he has a least a cpl sources in the organization.

What do you think you'd want for him? Provided he's available.

Nah he seems really well loved in the organization. They're talking early extension with him like they did with Robert Williams last year. Don't see him being moved unless it was in a package for a much better player.

I’d be so mad if we dealt Grant for Jae lol. Grant has way too much value in a conference with Giannis. I wouldn’t deal Grant in any trade that doesn’t bring back a star.

Fair enough. Also makes sense you guys probably wouldn't want to make us better lol. Speaking of that, I'm mostly worried about the Celtics as it relates to this whole KD thing. Hopefully Stevens doesn't come over the top with a Jalen/Timelord offer to Brooklyn as that's hard to top.

[Scarletfire81]

Nah he seems really well loved in the organization. They're talking early extension with him like they did with Robert Williams last year. Don't see him being moved unless it was in a package for a much better player.

I’d be so mad if we dealt Grant for Jae lol. Grant has way too much value in a conference with Giannis. I wouldn’t deal Grant in any trade that doesn’t bring back a star.

Fair enough. Also makes sense you guys probably wouldn't want to make us better lol. Speaking of that, I'm mostly worried about the Celtics as it relates to this whole KD thing. Hopefully Stevens doesn't come over the top with a Jalen/Timelord offer to Brooklyn as that's hard to top.

Don’t worry about the Celtics, Brads not offering that.

[darrendaye]

I’d be so mad if we dealt Grant for Jae lol. Grant has way too much value in a conference with Giannis. I wouldn’t deal Grant in any trade that doesn’t bring back a star.

Fair enough. Also makes sense you guys probably wouldn't want to make us better lol. Speaking of that, I'm mostly worried about the Celtics as it relates to this whole KD thing. Hopefully Stevens doesn't come over the top with a Jalen/Timelord offer to Brooklyn as that's hard to top.

Don’t worry about the Celtics, Brads not offering that.

I'd be very upset at that offer, but would ultimately come around as long as any potential draft pick sweeteners demanded didn't extend beyond 2024. If I'm going to absorb a gut punch like that, I don't want to be left with ANY chance to be in position to lose a top 3-4 pick if disaster occurs. Particularly with KD's history of diva behavior.

[ballup]

But seriously one thing that Gallo can add to our offense is his ability to post up guys. He's been in the 80th percentile in 3 of the last 4 seasons in postup efficiency. When possessions bog down, we can just force a mismatch and let him get to work in the post. Not sure how good of a passer he is from there but I don't imagine him commanding too many double teams. He can just turn and shoot over smaller defenders.

Al was posting up this year at a similar rate to Gallo and the Jays are okay at posting up. The problem in the playoffs was getting them the ball. Frequency of post ups dropped for the 3 Celtics in the playoffs.

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[cl2117]

Fair enough. Also makes sense you guys probably wouldn't want to make us better lol. Speaking of that, I'm mostly worried about the Celtics as it relates to this whole KD thing. Hopefully Stevens doesn't come over the top with a Jalen/Timelord offer to Brooklyn as that's hard to top.

Don’t worry about the Celtics, Brads not offering that.

I'd be very upset at that offer, but would ultimately come around as long as any potential draft pick sweeteners demanded didn't extend beyond 2024. If I'm going to absorb a gut punch like that, I don't want to be left with ANY chance to be in position to lose a top 3-4 pick if disaster occurs. Particularly with KD's history of diva behavior.

I wholeheartedly admit that I will change my tune real quick if we land KD but I genuinely prefer keeping JB/Rob and having this core stick together for 5+ more years and hope to be in the mix annual with a legitimately home grown crew.

My only worry now is Jaylen's free agency and whether he's going to be tired of being #2 always and whether we sadly lose him. Even if he's going to be a #2 on another team, sometimes that change of scenery makes it more appealing for a guy (especially if it's like Miami or LA). If I knew that JB was re-upping I'd be completely steadfast in my position, but with him being a bit grumpy lately it does make me worried and think about how pissed I'd be if we missed out on 4 years of KD for 2 years of JB.

[zoyathedestroya]

But seriously one thing that Gallo can add to our offense is his ability to post up guys. He's been in the 80th percentile in 3 of the last 4 seasons in postup efficiency. When possessions bog down, we can just force a mismatch and let him get to work in the post. Not sure how good of a passer he is from there but I don't imagine him commanding too many double teams. He can just turn and shoot over smaller defenders.

Al was posting up this year at a similar rate to Gallo and the Jays are okay at posting up. The problem in the playoffs was getting them the ball. Frequency of post ups dropped for the 3 Celtics in the playoffs.

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I haven't checked the numbers but it's only Jaylen that I trust posting to score. Horford is great as a post passer but opposing teams rarely double him. And we don't cut anyways. He finds it hard to score even against smalls. Tatum just frustrates me when he posts up. When he goes to his spin right away he can get to the rim but he usually takes his time only to end up with a fadeaway jumper.

I think we didn't actively post them up cos they aren't really great at it unless it's an early seal.

[Red2]

Silly me. I was expecting that the Celts might actually do something . Gotta be patient and see what shakes loose. Don’t want to gut my team for KD. Galinari would help for sure as would Warren but am hoping theres something more exciting out there

[BK_2020]

But seriously one thing that Gallo can add to our offense is his ability to post up guys. He's been in the 80th percentile in 3 of the last 4 seasons in postup efficiency. When possessions bog down, we can just force a mismatch and let him get to work in the post. Not sure how good of a passer he is from there but I don't imagine him commanding too many double teams. He can just turn and shoot over smaller defenders.

Al was posting up this year at a similar rate to Gallo and the Jays are okay at posting up. The problem in the playoffs was getting them the ball. Frequency of post ups dropped for the 3 Celtics in the playoffs.

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I haven't checked the numbers but it's only Jaylen that I trust posting to score. Horford is great as a post passer but opposing teams rarely double him. And we don't cut anyways. He finds it hard to score even against smalls. Tatum just frustrates me when he posts up. When he goes to his spin right away he can get to the rim but he usually takes his time only to end up with a fadeaway jumper.

I think we didn't actively post them up cos they aren't really great at it unless it's an early seal.

Last season, Horford 75th (94 possessions), Marcus 60th percentile (34), Jaylen in the 55th (68), Tatum 33rd (122). Grant is in the 90th somewhere but he only posted up like 25 times. Enes is also up there as to be expected.

[Red2]

Huerter would be nice. Love john collins but dont see how we can get him

[CelticFaninLBC]

I’d be so mad if we dealt Grant for Jae lol. Grant has way too much value in a conference with Giannis. I wouldn’t deal Grant in any trade that doesn’t bring back a star.

Fair enough. Also makes sense you guys probably wouldn't want to make us better lol. Speaking of that, I'm mostly worried about the Celtics as it relates to this whole KD thing. Hopefully Stevens doesn't come over the top with a Jalen/Timelord offer to Brooklyn as that's hard to top.

Don’t worry about the Celtics, Brads not offering that.

Yep. Can't imagine many here would offer up Jaylen and Rob either.

[BK_2020]

Silly me. I was expecting that the Celts might actually do something . Gotta be patient and see what shakes loose. Don’t want to gut my team for KD. Galinari would help for sure as would Warren but am hoping theres something more exciting out there

It wouldn't require gutting the team for KD. More like either Jaylen or Horford + salary filler + a boatload of picks. Our options for the TPE would become a lot more limited without first round picks to give away but that's honestly a minor issue compared to getting KD.