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Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3

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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#561 » by 165bows » Mon Dec 29, 2025 11:00 am

redslastlaugh wrote:Bobby Manning on a youtube pod today introduced a trade idea of Sam Hauser to Detroit for Paul Reed. Reed is making $5.3M this year and $5.6M next year and can play PF/C

Pistons have a TPE that can absorb Sam Hauser's contract and Celtics have a TPE that Paul Reed's contract can fit into so a 1-for-1 trade is CBA legal.

This strikes me as a fine idea.

I like Paul Reed but the dude was waived not that long ago. Trading Hauser for him is malfeasance and Manning should loosen his golf hat it’s cutting off his circulation
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#562 » by Fierce1 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 11:20 am

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redslastlaugh wrote:Bobby Manning on a youtube pod today introduced a trade idea of Sam Hauser to Detroit for Paul Reed. Reed is making $5.3M this year and $5.6M next year and can play PF/C

Pistons have a TPE that can absorb Sam Hauser's contract and Celtics have a TPE that Paul Reed's contract can fit into so a 1-for-1 trade is CBA legal.

This strikes me as a fine idea.

I like Paul Reed but the dude was waived not that long ago. Trading Hauser for him is malfeasance and Manning should loosen his golf hat it’s cutting off his circulation

Yeah, trading Hauser is too much.

Maybe a 2nd round pick will be enough for a guy averaging 5.5 ppg and only getting 10 minutes of playing time per game.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#563 » by redslastlaugh » Mon Dec 29, 2025 1:19 pm

Another try on a big trade idea to fulfill the following objective: drop Celts under the tax, add a 2029 FRP so Celts have tradeable picks 2027-31, add another big man... so here's an idea that satisfies those requirements:

Celtics trade: Anfernee Simons, Josh Minott, Xavier Tillman, Chris Boucher, 2026 BOS 1st, 2026 NOP/MIL 2nd
Celtics receive: Klay Thompson, Max Christie, Paul Reed, 2029 LAL 1st

Pistons trade: Paul Reed, 2027 MIL 2nd
Pistons receive: Sam Hauser

Brooklyn trades: top-55 protected
Brooklyn receives: D'Angelo Russell, Xavier Tillman, Chris Boucher, 2027 MIL 2nd, 2026 NOP/MIL 2nd, 2032 DAL 2nd

Mavs trade: Klay Thompson, Max Christie, D'Angelo Russell, 2029 LAL 1st, 2032 DAL 2nd
Mavs receive: Anfernee Simons, Josh Minott, BOS 2026 1st

Why:
Boston: Drops under the tax, reduces $15M, adds 2029 1st (gives BOS tradeable firsts 2027-2031), a young wing signed for a few yrs in Max Christie, Paul Reed a depth bigman, Klay Thompson maybe has a little gas for two last playoff runs

Pistons: Add a proven rotation shooter in Hauser

Brooklyn: Takes on $11M this year and $6M D-Lo next year and gets three good 2nds for doing so

Mavs: Swap the Lakers 1st in 2029 for a Celtics 1st in 2026. Swap Max Christie for cheaper wing in Josh Minott. Mavs get to make 2 first round picks this draft to team with Flagg on his timeline, swaps out older vets, takes $28M off the books next year
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#564 » by celticgreenie » Mon Dec 29, 2025 1:41 pm

I don't think Brad is interested in Paul Reed as he's not a noted passer for a big man but Day'ron Sharpe is.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#565 » by Fierce1 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:25 pm

I also prefer Day'Ron Sharpe.

Paul Reed just doesn't move the needle.
He's a 3rd Center with the Pistons.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#566 » by GoCeltics123 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:31 pm

I like BBall Paul Reed but yeah we can do better for a Hauser trade than that
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#567 » by tfribs45 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:33 pm

Fierce1 wrote:I still say guys like DeRozan, MPJ, and Cam Thomas are better options than Simons.

Simons is just not fitting in with Mazzulla-Ball.

Brad should not be thinking about draft picks now that the Cs are clearly in the hunt.


Derozan would be a great fit and he'd add some toughness....I like Simons but Joe hasn't really given him a fair chance. Last night he was cooking when he came in and Joe sat him the rest of the game. Doesn't make sense to sit him all the time, my only conclusion is Joe knows he's not part of the plan, so why play him....
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#568 » by Fierce1 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:34 pm

Joe is going with Sam instead of Simons in crunch time because the Cs need offense.

Sam is better defensively and he can at least contribute in rebounding.

Besides Center, the Cs need another scorer.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#569 » by Fierce1 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:36 pm

tfribs45 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:I still say guys like DeRozan, MPJ, and Cam Thomas are better options than Simons.

Simons is just not fitting in with Mazzulla-Ball.

Brad should not be thinking about draft picks now that the Cs are clearly in the hunt.


Derozan would be a great fit and he'd add some toughness....I like Simons but Joe hasn't really given him a fair chance. Last night he was cooking when he came in and Joe sat him the rest of the game. Doesn't make sense to sit him all the time, my only conclusion is Joe knows he's not part of the plan, so why play him....

To be fair, Simons is just not good defensively.
He's trying, but he ends up just fouling.
Even Sam is doing a better job on defense than Simons.

DeRozan is really not the ideal trade target, but right now if you have to choose between Simons and DeRozan, DeRozan is just better.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#570 » by GoCeltics123 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 2:59 pm

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tfribs45 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:I still say guys like DeRozan, MPJ, and Cam Thomas are better options than Simons.

Simons is just not fitting in with Mazzulla-Ball.

Brad should not be thinking about draft picks now that the Cs are clearly in the hunt.


Derozan would be a great fit and he'd add some toughness....I like Simons but Joe hasn't really given him a fair chance. Last night he was cooking when he came in and Joe sat him the rest of the game. Doesn't make sense to sit him all the time, my only conclusion is Joe knows he's not part of the plan, so why play him....

To be fair, Simons is just not good defensively.
He's trying, but he ends up just fouling.
Even Sam is doing a better job on defense than Simons.

DeRozan is really not the ideal trade target, but right now if you have to choose between Simons and DeRozan, DeRozan is just better.

Cam Thomas is absolutely awful, the Nets took off without him. He's a worse fit for this team than Simons. DeMar isn't a good fit either when he can't shoot threes and plays no defense. MPJ is good but he makes too much money (and is pretty **** stupid honestly).

Simons trade needs to be for a big
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#571 » by shi-woo » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:04 pm

I've been trying to figure out which guards could be had, and looking at some lower end rotation guys that might be available and could stick around.

Celtics- McBride and Hukporti or Diawara
Knicks- Hauser and 2nd round picks
BRK- Yabu and Baylor with a 2nd round pick

Watched a lot of Knicks lately, and with Kolek and Clarkson already on the bench, Miles might be a nice get. Not realistic because of the teams involved, but I like the idea.

Celtics- Vit Krejci
Hawks- Hauser and a 2nd
BRK- Kennard and a 2nd

I think Vit has more value, but Hawks legit already have a solid 8 man rotation, and his skill set is overlap with most of their good players. Hauser gives them what Kennard is, just locked up on a solid contract, and they get a pick. This would be a dream trade for me.

BOS- Tre Jones
CHI- Hauser

Just a swap of contracts, and makes it so they don't have to worry about resigning Red Rocket, and allows them more flexibility in signing either White or Ayo. Celtics get a reliable backup point that can set dudes up, and is under contract for a few more years. Solid 15 min a night guard when JT comes back, and 25 a night when PP and White sit.

Bos- Jose Alverado
NOP= Hauser
BRK- Hawkins

A lot of moves are available if BRK wants to be a Eastern Conference buddy :lol: I know the value is slightly off on all of these, but these are the type of trades i'd like to see, and the type of guards we can go after. Everyone is focusing on the Center spot, but I think we could sure up our last guard spot with someone solid right now
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#572 » by brackdan70 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:06 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Bobby Manning on a youtube pod today introduced a trade idea of Sam Hauser to Detroit for Paul Reed. Reed is making $5.3M this year and $5.6M next year and can play PF/C

Pistons have a TPE that can absorb Sam Hauser's contract and Celtics have a TPE that Paul Reed's contract can fit into so a 1-for-1 trade is CBA legal.

This strikes me as a fine idea.

That’s one I have thought about as well. Makes a lot of sense for both teams imo.
Reed is underutilized on the Pistons and Hauser is over utilized on the Celtics.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#573 » by Fierce1 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:08 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
tfribs45 wrote:
Derozan would be a great fit and he'd add some toughness....I like Simons but Joe hasn't really given him a fair chance. Last night he was cooking when he came in and Joe sat him the rest of the game. Doesn't make sense to sit him all the time, my only conclusion is Joe knows he's not part of the plan, so why play him....

To be fair, Simons is just not good defensively.
He's trying, but he ends up just fouling.
Even Sam is doing a better job on defense than Simons.

DeRozan is really not the ideal trade target, but right now if you have to choose between Simons and DeRozan, DeRozan is just better.

Cam Thomas is absolutely awful, the Nets took off without him. He's a worse fit for this team than Simons. DeMar isn't a good fit either when he can't shoot threes and plays no defense. MPJ is good but he makes too much money (and is pretty **** stupid honestly).

Simons trade needs to be for a big

Celtics don't need DeRozan to do a lot.
Just give the Celtics a reliable scorer off the bench.
The Celtics are better off with PP, White, and DeRozan than PP, White, and Simons.
Simons is just too small.

It's just one option, but the Cs can swap Simons for DeRozan then use the KP TPE to trade for Sharpe.

Cs get the big man they need and the bench scorer in DeRozan.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#574 » by GoCeltics123 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:08 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Bobby Manning on a youtube pod today introduced a trade idea of Sam Hauser to Detroit for Paul Reed. Reed is making $5.3M this year and $5.6M next year and can play PF/C

Pistons have a TPE that can absorb Sam Hauser's contract and Celtics have a TPE that Paul Reed's contract can fit into so a 1-for-1 trade is CBA legal.

This strikes me as a fine idea.

That’s one I have thought about as well. Makes a lot of sense for both teams imo.
Reed is underutilized on the Pistons and Hauser is over utilized on the Celtics.

I agree that Paul Reed is underutilized on Detroit and that Hauser is overutiliized here, but I have concerns giving Hauser to a team that badly needs shooting. They would have to include second rounders in the trade for me to be interested
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#575 » by Fierce1 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:10 pm

Brad does not need to help the Pistons and Knicks by giving them Hauser.

Pistons and Knicks are the most likely opponent in the 2nd round and ECF.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#576 » by brackdan70 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:16 pm

Fierce1 wrote:Brad does not need to help the Pistons and Knicks by giving them Hauser.

Pistons and Knicks are the most likely opponent in the 2nd round and ECF.

Fair, but I think the point of the trade is to help the Celtics.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#577 » by redslastlaugh » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:17 pm

Yea, all the trades are rooted in we are trying to save money since we have new owners... lol... I do like Paul Reed but I wouldnt trade Sam Hauser straight up without the financial reason... and pretty much all the fake trade ideas are based on getting the team under the tax when we have Simons who is $10-20 million overpaid and who we never even wanted except to undo the Jrue Holiday extension
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#578 » by Fierce1 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:18 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Brad does not need to help the Pistons and Knicks by giving them Hauser.

Pistons and Knicks are the most likely opponent in the 2nd round and ECF.

Fair, but I think the point of the trade is to help the Celtics.

The good news is there are better options out there than Paul Reed.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#579 » by Hal14 » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:23 pm

Riverwalk2021 wrote:Simmons is what he is. Talented scorer but he ended up here to get off Jrue's bad long-term contract. He doesn't fit here and when Tatum comes back, he literally becomes no more important than a corpse like Tillman. His contract is ridiculous but if we can use it + anybody outside of Brown and White + picks to get back a talented starting level big, I am all for it because it would make all the difference in the world to pair him with a core of Tatum, Brown and White. A big that can shoot, pass and defend will open up the court so much.

Players who fit that description in the league right now is basically just Mobley, Chet and Wemby.

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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3 

Post#580 » by Curmudgeon » Mon Dec 29, 2025 3:55 pm

I wouldn't mind trading Simons for Dereck Lively and filler and waiting until next year for Lively to return from injury.
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