The (Quintessential) Trade Thread, 2017 (Part 5.0)

[ConstableGeneva]

A lineup of Smart-Brown-Crowder-Tucker-Jerebko is as switchy on defense as it gets. Stevens might have had a say in this "deep interest" in PJ. #MediumBall

[sully00]

Is it possible the Gallo thing is just noise to make it appear Ainge has other (cheaper) scoring wing options besides PG/Butler? And aren't GMs too smart to see through that anyway?

I personally think Gallo is an Ainge target because he has always loved him as a stretch 4. If Ainge makes a move for Gallo it will be for cheap and to help scoring on the 2nd unit.

Gallinari is a 28-year-old, 15 million per year starter in this league. He's not going to come off the bench at that salary while the 6-mil per year Crowder starts. He came off the bench once in his career and that was only because he was nursing back to health after missing the entire season prior to that with injury. Him going to the 2nd unit isn't happening. I also don't feel he should play the 4 as he can't handle PF's very well on the defensive end, and often gets torched in the pick and roll. He's better at ISO defense against opposing small forwards. At least Jerebko can hold his own playing the 4, I just don't think Gallo can.

The money doesn't matter. Crowder is the better player especially on the defensive end and Galla can create his own shot which is what the second unit needs.

Doesn't a make a ton of sense he fits the offense but doesn't rebound or defend. Maybe if he is replacing Crowder because he is getting dealt for Butler or George but otherwise need to focus on rebounding.

[Nick33]

Trying this again (got ignored the first time around)

Hi Everyone, longtime reader first time poster.
I was thinking about a trade more towards the end of the roster that may pay dividends this year without handicapping future flexibility. I will say i am a huge fan of Robert Covington so the trade is essentially:

Tyler Zeller/J Young/and Terry Rozier for R.Holmes/Gerald Henderson/Robert Covington.

Apologies if i am not posting the link correctly but it works in trade checker per below.
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http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=h8atrfd[/url]

Holmes gives us a good big man to develop who is a good rebounder.
Huge fan of covington who is an underrated wing player and good 3 point shooter.
Gerald Henderson has a team option for next year so we can use him this year with no commitments beyond.
Should we decide to trade Avery Bradley at some point, we can pick up Henderson's option for 1 more year at 9million.
Philly gets a young guard to develop, as well as getting an extended look at James young.

Wondering what people's thoughts are and if it works from Philly's perspective.
Appreciate any feedback. Thanks. Nick.

Welcome to the boards.

Philly wouldn't touch this, they're too high on Covington.

A Rozier for Holmes trade has merit, but, due to his production and contract, I think philly is more likely to keep him and trade either Noel or Okafor (or both).

Thank you SmartWentCrazy and jirrit my thinking was that i had heard Colangelo was high On Rozier and we could use a young big man to develop. Was trying to find a way to steal Covington but that may be too much from Phillys perspective.
Appreciate the feedback nonetheless. Nick.

[Captain_Caveman]

I personally think Gallo is an Ainge target because he has always loved him as a stretch 4. If Ainge makes a move for Gallo it will be for cheap and to help scoring on the 2nd unit.

Gallinari is a 28-year-old, 15 million per year starter in this league. He's not going to come off the bench at that salary while the 6-mil per year Crowder starts. He came off the bench once in his career and that was only because he was nursing back to health after missing the entire season prior to that with injury. Him going to the 2nd unit isn't happening. I also don't feel he should play the 4 as he can't handle PF's very well on the defensive end, and often gets torched in the pick and roll. He's better at ISO defense against opposing small forwards. At least Jerebko can hold his own playing the 4, I just don't think Gallo can.

The money doesn't matter. Crowder is the better player especially on the defensive end and Galla can create his own shot which is what the second unit needs.

Doesn't a make a ton of sense he fits the offense but doesn't rebound or defend. Maybe if he is replacing Crowder because he is getting dealt for Butler or George but otherwise need to focus on rebounding.

I don't see any reason that Gallo and Crowder can't play together, with Horford at center.

[Celts17Pride]

A lineup of Smart-Brown-Crowder-Tucker-Jerebko is as switchy on defense as it gets. Stevens might have had a say in this "deep interest" in PJ. #MediumBall

Honestly I think the Celtics would only have interest in PJ Tucker if Ainge has another deal in place to move Crowder and/or Jaylen Brown.

[GoCeltics123]

My question for Tucker is where does he fit?

[nickforthreee]

declining James Youngs option is something Ainge has to be regretting... it essentially ruined james youngs trade value now that he is proving to be a decent player... whichever team he is traded to will likely not be able to keep him because of the 2.8 limit.

[Cornbread]

declining James Youngs option is something Ainge has to be regretting... it essentially ruined james youngs trade value now that he is proving to be a decent player... whichever team he is traded to will likely not be able to keep him because of the 2.8 limit.

James Young is a long way from proving he's a decent player.

[Green89]

My question for Tucker is where does he fit?

Tucker's more likely to come off the bench for us than Gallinari.

[sully00]

Gallinari is a 28-year-old, 15 million per year starter in this league. He's not going to come off the bench at that salary while the 6-mil per year Crowder starts. He came off the bench once in his career and that was only because he was nursing back to health after missing the entire season prior to that with injury. Him going to the 2nd unit isn't happening. I also don't feel he should play the 4 as he can't handle PF's very well on the defensive end, and often gets torched in the pick and roll. He's better at ISO defense against opposing small forwards. At least Jerebko can hold his own playing the 4, I just don't think Gallo can.

The money doesn't matter. Crowder is the better player especially on the defensive end and Galla can create his own shot which is what the second unit needs.

Doesn't a make a ton of sense he fits the offense but doesn't rebound or defend. Maybe if he is replacing Crowder because he is getting dealt for Butler or George but otherwise need to focus on rebounding.

I don't see any reason that Gallo and Crowder can't play together, with Horford at center.

Because someone has to rebound the ball. Gallo's mins come at the expense of Amir, KO, and Jerebko who are the better end of a bad rebounding group and Gallo by the numbers would be even worse than most of the guys on a team that already can't rebound the ball.

[BleedGreen1989]

Jesus, if the price on Jimmy B is what I'm reading on the trade boards (it hardly ever is), I pray he moves on.

[pfm]

Tucker is a solid player. Our interest might just be down to the fact that Crowder is the only guy on the team you can stick on Lebron for extended stretches. Jaylen is too green and Smart probably only in select spots.

[Green89]

I like Tucker but would rather have James Johnson from Miami. Still would take Tucker for the right deal.

[BleedGreen1989]

I'd take Tucker for a 2nd and Mickey or something.

[sully00]

declining James Youngs option is something Ainge has to be regretting... it essentially ruined james youngs trade value now that he is proving to be a decent player... whichever team he is traded to will likely not be able to keep him because of the 2.8 limit.

James Young has scored 56 points this season. He would be thrilled if someone wants to pay him that 2.8 mil. I think he may have saved his career but he is likely a minimum salary guy except for the team that has his bird rights. He isn't a player your going to use cap space or a slotted exception for.

[fallguy]

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[CelticsPride18]

That kills Butler trade value.

[sam_I_am]

A lineup of Smart-Brown-Crowder-Tucker-Jerebko is as switchy on defense as it gets. Stevens might have had a say in this "deep interest" in PJ. #MediumBall

Honestly I think the Celtics would only have interest in PJ Tucker if Ainge has another deal in place to move Crowder and/or Jaylen Brown.

Agreed. If Butler is target then Crowder probably goes and Tucker replaces. I hear Jae and Butler hate each other.... not sure how true that is.

[sully00]

My question for Tucker is where does he fit?

Tucker's more likely to come off the bench for us than Gallinari.

Tucker is actually a pretty good rebounder there is that.

James Young for Tucker may make sense for both squads.

[London2Boston]

It's heating up..