Anthony Davis Trade Thread Shimmies to #8

[FlatearthZorro]

Reminders:

1. If we had to predict in which NBA city fans were especially likely to love a black native French speaker with a flair for showmanship, New Orleans would surely be at or very close to the top of the list.

If an AD deal happens and a few million dollars of salary filler are needed, Yabusele is an obvious fit.

2. If Memphis wants to trade Conley, there's one team that can give them their own likely lottery pick back.

3. For all the drama, Kyrie surely would like to appear to be a decent guy. And whatever his reasons might be that lead him to leave, there's no hint of him actually blaming Celtics ownership or management. So if the Cs need his salary in S&T to ease the pain of his departure, he has every reason to play along.

Possible implications could include:
-- The Cs might be able to afford another expensive player, along with Davis.
-- Alternatively, the Cs might be able to trade for Davis while sending no salary back beyond that of players intentionally included in the trade because the Pelicans covet them.

Conley not worth sending their own pick back

Conley is actually when healthy a superior overall player to Kyrie, btw. The guy has averaged 20 pts and is an all-nba type defender at the PG spot. Problem is his age, contract and injury history.

[Floody100]

If we want to win a chip next season we NEED to bring back the white mamba.

[CeltsfaninDC]

For a guy who basically said screw you and don’t trade for me or else you’ll be sorry. I can’t believe all the love he’s been getting. smh

he didn't say that, his agent did. and all he said is that AD will explore free agency. duh.

His agent said he won’t resign with us. Its crystal clear to me.

And history tells us you should always always believe agents and especially agents associated with LeBron. They are always honest and would never ever lie

[FlatearthZorro]

As I wrote this will take a few days obviously. Hopefully it's over by draft night. Would give us a lots of clarity.

[Darthlukey]

Reminders:

1. If we had to predict in which NBA city fans were especially likely to love a black native French speaker with a flair for showmanship, New Orleans would surely be at or very close to the top of the list.

If an AD deal happens and a few million dollars of salary filler are needed, Yabusele is an obvious fit.

2. If Memphis wants to trade Conley, there's one team that can give them their own likely lottery pick back.

3. For all the drama, Kyrie surely would like to appear to be a decent guy. And whatever his reasons might be that lead him to leave, there's no hint of him actually blaming Celtics ownership or management. So if the Cs need his salary in S&T to ease the pain of his departure, he has every reason to play along.

Possible implications could include:
-- The Cs might be able to afford another expensive player, along with Davis.
-- Alternatively, the Cs might be able to trade for Davis while sending no salary back beyond that of players intentionally included in the trade because the Pelicans covet them.

Conley not worth sending their own pick back

Conley is actually when healthy a superior overall player to Kyrie, btw. The guy has averaged 20 pts and is an all-nba type defender at the PG spot. Problem is his age, contract and injury history.

Agreed on all those things, but taking on his contract is doing the Grizzlies a favour. Giving them a lottery 1st back makes it not worth it. Especially if our team is likely heading down the youth path eventually

[Triple7]

he didn't say that, his agent did. and all he said is that AD will explore free agency. duh.

His agent said he won’t resign with us. Its crystal clear to me.

And history tells us you should always always believe agents and especially agents associated with LeBron. They are always honest and would never ever lie

Why would he lie about that? Its just him saying don’t trade for AD because he won’t resign with us. AD wanted to be traded this season to the lakers to avoid wasting another year of his prime. If the celtics backs off, NO would be forced to deal with LA. NO probably wants tatum more than anything the lakers can offer. That’s why the lakers deal won’t push through. This doesn’t mean that rich paul is lying. Maybe he also wants to gain some leverage for the lakers as well.

[ILC]

His agent said he won’t resign with us. Its crystal clear to me.

And history tells us you should always always believe agents and especially agents associated with LeBron. They are always honest and would never ever lie

Why would he lie about that? Its just him saying don’t trade for AD because he won’t resign with us. AD wanted to be traded this season to the lakers to avoid wasting another year of his prime. If the celtics backs off, NO would be forced to deal with LA. NO probably wants tatum more than anything the lakers can offer. That’s why the lakers deal won’t push through. This doesn’t mean that rich paul is lying. Maybe he also wants to gain some leverage for the lakers as well.

You answered your own question. If he's lying it's because Lakers HAVE to get AD now. If they don't they have LeBron unhappy, they have to settle for lesser FA guys or punt another year. They're desperate.

Now, maybe he's not outright lying and he probably thinks right now that chances of him re-signing in Boston are very very low. That still doesn't mean things can't change during the season. In fact, almost certainly, things WILL change significantly during the season. It always happens.

If Lakers miss out on AD maybe they're dumb enough to trade for CP to make LeBron happy. Then they really wouldn't have space for AD next summer. Maybe Lakers miss the POs again, LeBron gets injured again and AD changes his mind. Maybe AD wins MVP in Boston next year or they win a title or maybe things implode and Celtics trade AD again during the season. Nobody knows, so many crazy things have happened in the past few years.

Million scenarios and maybe we don't get AD in the end, but I sure as hell wouldn't bet on it being because of some empty Rich Paul threats. Which btw happened back in March, personally to Danny's face and he's still going after Davis.

[LondonCeltics]

I find it hard to feel enthusiastic about AD with his berk of an agent trying to force through a move to LA. Either AD is sanctioning all this or he’s a right soft touch for being so impressionable. For someone who apparently wants to win it all why be so keen on such a train wreck franchise?

If the franchises/GMs don’t adapt in response then the league needs to do something about this ridiculous star and agent power, it’s a bit mental to force moves while under contract.

[ILC]

It's 1 PM in Europe already. When are these people waking up, I need updates.

[Leprechaun18]

If Danny does decide to trade for AD, he must make sure that the team he has left combined with AD is a very serious championship contender! Just making the playoffs or the conference finals would be a fail, because you dont give up big assets for second, third, or fourth place, and watch AD go to the lakers the next season. If KI wanted to resign and was committed to playing defense and helping the team win, then I think it might be possible to build a legit contender for the Crown, but if KI goes to the nets, I think we can contend for the east, but not the Crown. I also think Tatum is going to improve this offseason. Including him in a trade package throws all that away plus the other assets.

[Leprechaun18]

That lad is gonna get better and better. I am more interested in seeing Tatum and Brown improve than learning if AD can play a full season. I also want to see how much the Time Lord improves.

[CeltsfaninDC]

His agent said he won’t resign with us. Its crystal clear to me.

And history tells us you should always always believe agents and especially agents associated with LeBron. They are always honest and would never ever lie

Why would he lie about that? Its just him saying don’t trade for AD because he won’t resign with us. AD wanted to be traded this season to the lakers to avoid wasting another year of his prime. If the celtics backs off, NO would be forced to deal with LA. NO probably wants tatum more than anything the lakers can offer. That’s why the lakers deal won’t push through. This doesn’t mean that rich paul is lying. Maybe he also wants to gain some leverage for the lakers as well.

for like the tenth time........ LAL probably have no cap next year. If they want AD they HAVE to get him now in a trade.

[Darthlukey]

kyrie is gone, even without the reload bombs this would be obvious. i'm still thinking a sign-and-trade. kyrie doesn't want to give up cash, endorsements or not. get dinwiddie from the nets, they'll want to clear salary.

My understanding is that Kyrie doesnt make anything extra from going via S&T. He is still only eligible for 4y/5% compared to 5y/8% with us.

Correct. The last CBA torched the S&T thing

It stopped teams over the cap getting players essentially, but also stopped the team losing the player getting any compensation

[Bar Fight]

I want Davis for obvious reasons. But all of a sudden I want it even more just because of how soul crushing it will be for Bron/Rich Paul. Enjoy another wasted year, or give up on AD. Your move

[Tyakack]

That's nice. I am more interested in winning titles.

[Andrew McCeltic]

The Clippers picked up Gallo a couple of years ago..

We’d have to pitch Russell on day 1 and tell him that if we can’t have continuity with Kyrie coming back, he’s the dream replacement, upgrade.. and sell him on the idea enough that he exerts some leverage..

[Mr Loggins]

For a guy who basically said screw you and don’t trade for me or else you’ll be sorry. I can’t believe all the love he’s been getting. smh

he didn't say that, his agent did. and all he said is that AD will explore free agency. duh.

there’s a 99% chance Paul is putting out the message that AD wants him to. Either that or Paul is a moron, and I don’t think it’s the latter.

[zoyathedestroya]

I have no idea what Ainge is offering if Tatum is not on the table.

I'm behind trading for AD without including Tatum, but I just don't know what that package is.

[Darthlukey]

The Clippers picked up Gallo a couple of years ago..

We’d have to pitch Russell on day 1 and tell him that if we can’t have continuity with Kyrie coming back, he’s the dream replacement, upgrade.. and sell him on the idea enough that he exerts some leverage..

What's this post about, seems to be a mishmash of sorts

[WeLikeOurGuys]

I have no idea what Ainge is offering if Tatum is not on the table.

I'm behind trading for AD without including Tatum, but I just don't know what that package is.

Probably
Brown, Smart, Yabu, 14, 20, 22?

I’d have to imagine We would need to add the Memphis pick also.