Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt 11: Kanter believe you thought of former player

[ZeroTolerance]

no blake. surely you guys can get a bit more creative than finding bad maxs. next we will hear hayward for cp.

Do good max contracts actually exist?

Not a big fan of them....think they should limit them to perhaps two players per team?

And then they should reduce the cap as well!

Maybe then you wouldn't have to get a second mortgage on your house to take the family to an NBA game?

[FlatearthZorro]

no blake. surely you guys can get a bit more creative than finding bad maxs. next we will hear hayward for cp.

Yo is that Kanter's number 11 retirement ceremony...

[cloverleaf]

no blake. surely you guys can get a bit more creative than finding bad maxs. next we will hear hayward for cp.

Do good max contracts actually exist?

Not a big fan of them....think they should limit them to perhaps two players per team?

And then they should reduce the cap as well!

Maybe then you wouldn't have to get a second mortgage on your house to take the family to an NBA game?

I take it you're not that familiar with the concept of supply and demand?

[yeahM8]

no blake. surely you guys can get a bit more creative than finding bad maxs. next we will hear hayward for cp.

Yo is that Kanter's number 11 retirement ceremony...

haha yeh no more dabusele. had to make a new one lol

for the people in the back..

[FlatearthZorro]

no blake. surely you guys can get a bit more creative than finding bad maxs. next we will hear hayward for cp.

Yo is that Kanter's number 11 retirement ceremony...

haha yeh no more dabusele. had to make a new one lol

for the people in the back..

Quality.

[reload141]

Blake instead of Hayward? Much more balanced starting 5.

But his injury history? And what we would have to give up?.... not sure, as long as we would keep the Memphis pick some how and do Hayward and picks?.... maybe.

But I kind of want to see what Hayward looks like this year, if he’s back he’s worth more. If not, I’d sell at the deadline.

[bceltic55]

Forget Blake, Miles Turner for GH and Memphis pick

[FlatearthZorro]

Forget Blake, Miles Turner for GH and Memphis pick

Miles Turner is laegely overrated in here. Decent, nothing special so far.

[Andrew McCeltic]

This rebuild’s gone off track if we’re talking about trading for Blake Griffin to play with Kemba Walker.. we’ll turn into the pre-Kawhi Raptors quick

[Darth Celtic]

My new pet trade is some version of Kanter/Theis for Cody Zeller from Charlotte.

Zeller would be an excellent center for this team. Very strong all-around defender. Capable rebounder. Good screener. Solid roll man. Decent contract. Excellent chemistry with Kemba

I wouldn't trade Kanter for Zeller straight up for each other. Zeller is an utter mediocrity in my eyes. At least Kanter is exceptional at rebounding, and he's a pretty decent scorer. I have a feeling the Kanter we'll be seeing is close to what he showed in the playoffs for Portland, which was much better than Zeller has been. Kanter also once put up 33 pts and 22 boards against Embiid and the Sixers. I'm hoping Brad can work some magic with him on the defensive end. We'll see.

Zeller is boring yes, but Kanter is far more of a mediocrity. Zeller is not a great rebounder like Kanter, but he's solid. He's also a solid roll man and better at running in transition. Most importantly on defense Zeller is very well-rounded. He's got pretty quick feet, he contests well at the rim AND on the perimeter, he plays intelligently and with strong effort and he consistently makes the right play.

Kanter will score in the post and rebound all day, but he will also ruin your defensive integrity almost single-handed. He also needs to score to stay useful, meaning you have to feed him in the post and on the roll a fair amount, which diminishes some of the offensive utility off your other guys.

26 yrs old, 7' 240lbs, 25 mpg, 10.8 pts 6.8rbs, 2.2 a, 55% shooting, 27% from 3, Per of 17, .8bls, .8st, 3.3fouls
27 yrs old, 6'11" 250lbs, 25mpg, 13.7pts, 9.8rbs, 1.7a, 57% shooting, 30% from 3, Per of 22, .4bls, .5sts, 2.5fouls

One is signed for 2 years 14m, 15.5m
One is signed for 2 years, 4.8m, 4.9m

Are we seriously talking about trading the better of the 2 players getting paid 1/3 as much for the same amount of time?

**** the offseason around here sometimes. Do we just forget everything about the game of basketball and start throwing random trades out there because we are bored?

[bceltic55]

Miles Turner is laegely overrated in here. Decent, nothing special so far.

He balances out the floor, lower salary than GH. May not be everything we want, but better than Blake.

[Slartibartfast]

I wouldn't trade Kanter for Zeller straight up for each other. Zeller is an utter mediocrity in my eyes. At least Kanter is exceptional at rebounding, and he's a pretty decent scorer. I have a feeling the Kanter we'll be seeing is close to what he showed in the playoffs for Portland, which was much better than Zeller has been. Kanter also once put up 33 pts and 22 boards against Embiid and the Sixers. I'm hoping Brad can work some magic with him on the defensive end. We'll see.

Zeller is boring yes, but Kanter is far more of a mediocrity. Zeller is not a great rebounder like Kanter, but he's solid. He's also a solid roll man and better at running in transition. Most importantly on defense Zeller is very well-rounded. He's got pretty quick feet, he contests well at the rim AND on the perimeter, he plays intelligently and with strong effort and he consistently makes the right play.

Kanter will score in the post and rebound all day, but he will also ruin your defensive integrity almost single-handed. He also needs to score to stay useful, meaning you have to feed him in the post and on the roll a fair amount, which diminishes some of the offensive utility off your other guys.

26 yrs old, 7' 240lbs, 25 mpg, 10.8 pts 6.8rbs, 2.2 a, 55% shooting, 27% from 3, Per of 17, .8bls, .8st, 3.3fouls
27 yrs old, 6'11" 250lbs, 25mpg, 13.7pts, 9.8rbs, 1.7a, 57% shooting, 30% from 3, Per of 22, .4bls, .5sts, 2.5fouls

One is signed for 2 years 14m, 15.5m
One is signed for 2 years, 4.8m, 4.9m

Are we seriously talking about trading the better of the 2 players getting paid 1/3 as much for the same amount of time?

**** the offseason around here sometimes. Do we just forget everything about the game of basketball and start throwing random trades out there because we are bored?

Yes, Kanter's box score stats are gaudy. Big whoop. Zeller's a better player.

[jmr07019]

I would trade Hayward and picks for Blake. We need to balance our roster. Having an unbalanced roster limits everyone. We saw that last year.

Kemba / Smart / Edwards
Brown / Smart / Langford
Tatum / Brown / Semi
Griffin / Theis / G Williams
Kanter / R Williams / Porier

That rotation features everyone at their natural position and we have some much needed talent at the big man positions. Having Tatum or Hayward play PF this year is going to hurt us. Kanter being your best big is not good enough if you want to be a contender.

I would do Brown for Sabonis or Isaac as well. We should do a small for big trade to balance the roster.

[bceltic55]

If you do Sabonis or Issac then you trade Brown. We do need to balance the floor.

[BigTrade92]

I can’t believe you some of you guys want to give up on Brown already.

Jimmy Butler didn’t become Jimmy Butler until his fourth year in the league. Heck, Giannis didn’t become Giannis until his fourth year.

Before we dump Jaylen for an average backup Center, let’s see how the kid does in his fourth season, especially with no Kyrie around.

If he hasn’t taken the leap by the trade deadline, then sure, go ahead and fire up the trade machine.

[cloverleaf]

If you do Sabonis or Issac then you trade Brown. We do need to balance the floor.

Sabonis, please.

[zoyathedestroya]

Hayward is going to be an All-Star in 2020. Either on the Celtics or on another team. I'll bet a year-long of non-posting as Zoya if it doesn't happen, effective May 9, 2020.

[bceltic55]

No one is giving up on Brown, we have to many 2/3's. We need another PF / C.

[BigTrade92]

No one is giving up on Brown, we have to many 2/3's. We need another PF / C.

We don’t need one bad enough where we use Jaylen as the trade bait.

Danny isn’t making that move until he sees how Brown performs in the first half of this season.

[Triple7]

Zeller is boring yes, but Kanter is far more of a mediocrity. Zeller is not a great rebounder like Kanter, but he's solid. He's also a solid roll man and better at running in transition. Most importantly on defense Zeller is very well-rounded. He's got pretty quick feet, he contests well at the rim AND on the perimeter, he plays intelligently and with strong effort and he consistently makes the right play.

Kanter will score in the post and rebound all day, but he will also ruin your defensive integrity almost single-handed. He also needs to score to stay useful, meaning you have to feed him in the post and on the roll a fair amount, which diminishes some of the offensive utility off your other guys.

26 yrs old, 7' 240lbs, 25 mpg, 10.8 pts 6.8rbs, 2.2 a, 55% shooting, 27% from 3, Per of 17, .8bls, .8st, 3.3fouls
27 yrs old, 6'11" 250lbs, 25mpg, 13.7pts, 9.8rbs, 1.7a, 57% shooting, 30% from 3, Per of 22, .4bls, .5sts, 2.5fouls

One is signed for 2 years 14m, 15.5m
One is signed for 2 years, 4.8m, 4.9m

Are we seriously talking about trading the better of the 2 players getting paid 1/3 as much for the same amount of time?

**** the offseason around here sometimes. Do we just forget everything about the game of basketball and start throwing random trades out there because we are bored?

Yes, Kanter's box score stats are gaudy. Big whoop. Zeller's a better player.

Nah! I disagree. Kanter’s way way better than Zeller. Stats don’t lie.