Fire Brad Stevens.

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Perkins just sucks, he just wants to say things loud so he can stay on TV despite all the evidence that he's really bad at it.

Perk is great.

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Scott Brooks is not the guy to put the Celtics over the top. If they're moving on from Brad they better have a great coach as his replacement. If no one's available, it makes sense as an organization and monetarily to keep Brad and try to improve upon the obvious weaknesses that they have on the roster.

Lots of possible guys out there. Another year of this would be a disaster.

Perk wasn't suggesting Brooks. IIRC he was bringing up Brooks just in the context of it being much easier to get the respect of players and succeed as a coach in the league by having been a player. (Better still -- having been a really good player, like Nash.)

[LoquaciousLarry]

Scott Brooks is not the guy to put the Celtics over the top. If they're moving on from Brad they better have a great coach as his replacement. If no one's available, it makes sense as an organization and monetarily to keep Brad and try to improve upon the obvious weaknesses that they have on the roster.

Lots of possible guys out there. Another year of this would be a disaster.

Perk wasn't suggesting Brooks. IIRC he was bringing up Brooks just in the context of it being much easier to get the respect of players and succeed as a coach in the league by having been a player. (Better still -- having been a really good player, like Nash.)

I wouldn't give Brad a big check to go home to go pay a guy like Scott Brooks. Unless its a home run hire, don't pull the trigger. Move Smart and Kemba and get an adequate back court. Any coach with every other night Kemba and trash will struggle.

[moonie_mcgee]

Well Ainge could and should totally reinvent this roster. Force Stevens out if his comfort zone. Construct a roster that's conducive to winning in today's NBA rather than conforming to an individual coach's style/schemes. Keep the keepers and unload everyone else. Everyone says Zarren is so great. Let's see it.

[JHTruth]

Scott Brooks is not the guy to put the Celtics over the top. If they're moving on from Brad they better have a great coach as his replacement. If no one's available, it makes sense as an organization and monetarily to keep Brad and try to improve upon the obvious weaknesses that they have on the roster.

Lots of possible guys out there. Another year of this would be a disaster.

Perk wasn't suggesting Brooks. IIRC he was bringing up Brooks just in the context of it being much easier to get the respect of players and succeed as a coach in the league by having been a player. (Better still -- having been a really good player, like Nash.)

Wonder if they could pry away Malone

[amory87]

It sure seems to me like Brad has lost the locker room, but I have no idea if that's actually true or not. Danny knows, obviously, and he knows if it's the foundational guys who are done with Brad or just some secondary players.

I think there's 0% chance Stevens isn't back next year for better or worse. A bad start to the season would turn on the real heat though

[Bleeding Green]

Please just write into his contract that he isn't allowed to do coaching challenges. Just hire someone who can pat him on the head, or scratch him behind his ears, and say, "It's all right, I got this, it's the first half and we are down 20 points and you're going to lose this challenge anyway. Let's save it. I love you."

[JediMasterRevan]

At least Brad made adjustments from game 1 to game 2 and managed to run some plays to get Tatum some easy looks. /sarcasm

[celtics543]

Brad seems like a good guy and he's a really solid coach but here's the issue, to be honest it's our issue in the front office too, he's just been here too long without winning anything. He's the longest tenured coach we've ever had that hasn't won a title. He's actually coached here longer than KC Jones. If two titles didn't buy KC Jones extra years, what has Brad done to deserve the extra time?

The Celtics are so risk averse that it's crippling them. Look around the league, how many teams have had a coach and GM for as long as we have without winning anything. Even the Pistons eventually let Joe Dumars go and brought in a new voice, not that it's worked out but at least they've tried. I don't dislike Brad or Danny but eventually if you don't win then there has to be some change. I don't really want to hear about the ECF trips. Those teams had no shot against Lebron in the first two and then should have beat the Heat but I'd argue Brad was outcoached badly against Spoelstra.

I understand we've had injuries and bad luck but eventually you start to look at the whole picture and realize, Hayward, Horford, and Kyrie all wanted to leave. That doesn't speak highly of their opinions on Brad and Danny being able to lead a championship team.

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Please just write into his contract that he isn't allowed to do coaching challenges. Just hire someone who can pat him on the head, or scratch him behind his ears, and say, "It's all right, I got this, it's the first half and we are down 20 points and you're going to lose this challenge anyway. Let's save it. I love you."

Brad definitely needs a challenges assistant coach.

Perhaps as much as the players need a new coach, the coach may need to start fresh with a new team of players, too--in another city.

[amory87]

I really don't understand why he didn't take that Indiana job. He's meant to be a college coach, and there's nothing wrong with that.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Brad seems like a good guy and he's a really solid coach but here's the issue, to be honest it's our issue in the front office too, he's just been here too long without winning anything. He's the longest tenured coach we've ever had that hasn't won a title. He's actually coached here longer than KC Jones. If two titles didn't buy KC Jones extra years, what has Brad done to deserve the extra time?

The Celtics are so risk averse that it's crippling them. Look around the league, how many teams have had a coach and GM for as long as we have without winning anything. Even the Pistons eventually let Joe Dumars go and brought in a new voice, not that it's worked out but at least they've tried. I don't dislike Brad or Danny but eventually if you don't win then there has to be some change. I don't really want to hear about the ECF trips. Those teams had no shot against Lebron in the first two and then should have beat the Heat but I'd argue Brad was outcoached badly against Spoelstra.

I understand we've had injuries and bad luck but eventually you start to look at the whole picture and realize, Hayward, Horford, and Kyrie all wanted to leave. That doesn't speak highly of their opinions on Brad and Danny being able to lead a championship team.

Spo ran circles around Brad in the bubble, and although the heat have regressed, spo capitalized on the opportunity when his team was in the zone. Can't ever say that much for Brad, Sans the wizards/sixers series from a few years back.

[BK_2020]

Spo's team just lost by 34 to a team that's not a collection of top 15 players.
Maybe if he was an ex-player his players would respect him and played hard, thus winning the game.

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Scott Brooks is not the guy to put the Celtics over the top. If they're moving on from Brad they better have a great coach as his replacement. If no one's available, it makes sense as an organization and monetarily to keep Brad and try to improve upon the obvious weaknesses that they have on the roster.

Lots of possible guys out there. Another year of this would be a disaster.

Perk wasn't suggesting Brooks. IIRC he was bringing up Brooks just in the context of it being much easier to get the respect of players and succeed as a coach in the league by having been a player. (Better still -- having been a really good player, like Nash.)

Wonder if they could pry away Malone

Perk seemed to be thinking along the line of former players working their way up the coaching ranks possibilities such as Damon Stoudamire or Sam Cassell. Also pointed out Nash's success with his incredible player's resume and that he was also obviously hand picked by the Nets' stars as another example of former players having the knowledge and credibility with players that are needed.

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PS My thinking has evolved beyond "fire Stevens" or "fire Ainge".

I think the right thing for Wyc and any of his partners who can be persuaded is to sell at least the majority of their shares of the C's to KG or KG and his team. Then let them deal with who runs the team on and off the court.

Wyc is the guy ultimately most responsible. He should pass the baton and sure, they can leave him with as a cheerleader very minority partner share if that's what he wants, but when you've got someone like KG looking to get in on NBA team ownership, Grousbeck should aid and abet, not obstruct, him reaching that goal.

[celtics543]

Spo's team just lost by 34 to a team that's not a collection of top 15 players.
Maybe if he was an ex-player his players would respect him and played hard, thus winning the game.

Spo's also won a couple titles and made the Finals last year. Milwaukee shot the lights out but no one is going to argue that the Heat have stopped trying. I'd also give Pat Riley a lot of credit there too. The combo of Spo and Riley runs circles around Danny and Brad.

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Spo's team just lost by 34 to a team that's not a collection of top 15 players.
Maybe if he was an ex-player his players would respect him and played hard, thus winning the game.

Spo's also won a couple titles and made the Finals last year. Milwaukee shot the lights out but no one is going to argue that the Heat have stopped trying. I'd also give Pat Riley a lot of credit there too. The combo of Spo and Riley runs circles around Danny and Brad.

Spo's likely the best coach in the league right now. Exceptions don't disprove rules, however, in identifying the most likely profile for finding an available candidate who will prove to be a winning coach.

[jfs1000d]

What is a he supposed to do? How many open 3s we miss? We need to score or create turnovers.

Bad roster.


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[celtics543]

Spo's team just lost by 34 to a team that's not a collection of top 15 players.
Maybe if he was an ex-player his players would respect him and played hard, thus winning the game.

Spo's also won a couple titles and made the Finals last year. Milwaukee shot the lights out but no one is going to argue that the Heat have stopped trying. I'd also give Pat Riley a lot of credit there too. The combo of Spo and Riley runs circles around Danny and Brad.

Spo's likely the best coach in the league right now. Exceptions don't disprove rules, however, in identifying the most likely profile for finding an available candidate who will prove to be a winning coach.

I think I'd go with Cassell or Billups as the next coach if I had to pick someone right now. Ideally it would be a former Celtic but I'm not sure any recently retired Celtic is in the coaching circles. KG is interested in ownership, Pierce doesn't seem ready to commit to that, Rondo is still playing. Maybe James Posey?

[Green89]

What is a he supposed to do? How many open 3s we miss? We need to score or create turnovers.

Bad roster.


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Cop out excuse. We got beat time and time again this season by worse rosters.