Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 3

[Fierce1]

I wouldn't mind trading Simons for Dereck Lively and filler and waiting until next year for Lively to return from injury.

Dallas would never do that.

Lively is a top 10 lottery pick.

[Dannyboy36]

Am I living in a myopia in thinking Simons has been just fine for the Celtics. I’ve watched all the games, and yeah he isn’t worth 27.7 million but he has been just fine coming off the bench as a spark plug and the defense has been better than I thought.
Sure trade him if we can get a big better than Garza back, but other than that, I think he is pretty useful.
In the various advanced impact metrics he is looking decent. For example he is ranked 86th in LEBRON WAR.
Some things I don’t want to do.
Trade him for a worse player like DDR.
Trade him for a guard or wing that we don’t really need.
Attach a first to him unless we are really legitimate getting a better player that also fits better. (Aka a solid big).

Simons and Garza will be picked on endlessly in the playoffs making them unplayable. Celtics if they are serious need upgrades. Brad Stevens knows this. I just don’t know if the Celtics really care this year.

Simons and Garza are players for the regular season

This is exactly how I feel. Not like I KNOW but if I had to speculate I don't think there will be any interesting Simons deal to make. So many guys can score at his clip and also defend better. I think he just won’t be resigned.
I do t think they’ll make a deal during a feeling out process that Tatum will be going through if he comes back this year at all.

[Curmudgeon]

I wouldn't mind trading Simons for Dereck Lively and filler and waiting until next year for Lively to return from injury.

Dallas would never do that.

Lively is a top 10 lottery pick.

Depends on what the rest of the deal looks like. The Celtics could take Klay off their hands and throw in a couple of picks. Mavs have too many bigs and no guards, especially if they are unable to move AD.

[Celts17Pride]

The thing is that despite the Celtics excellent season to date, 19-12 and 3rd place in the East, the Celtics have no urgency to do anything. Celtics are still in the evaluation process and are still a longshot for the NBA Finals.

Us Celtics fans would love to see some moves but Brad Stevens has no urgency at all. In one way this is good because that means that if Stevens does a deal it will probably be a good one. The bad news is Brad Stevens might not do anything at all except for some accounting housekeeping.

Celtics are in a great spot, we all just need to be patient. Brad Stevens will be patient.

[Curmudgeon]

Frankly I don't expect Stevens will be able to trade Simons. There is no market for him, even as an expiring deal. My only hope is that after the deadline passes, he will be moved to the end of the bench.

[Larry_Russell]

Frankly I don't expect Stevens will be able to trade Simons. There is no market for him, even as an expiring deal. My only hope is that after the deadline passes, he will be moved to the end of the bench.

Surely a team needs to shed payroll.

Or to grlp facilitate a 3 team?

I think Cavs might be sellers. Dallas for sure. Kings?


Simmons and kuzma to Sacramento

Lavine, boucher and eubanks to bucks

Turner to celtics

[165bows]

The thing is that despite the Celtics excellent season to date, 19-12 and 3rd place in the East, the Celtics have no urgency to do anything. Celtics are still in the evaluation process and are still a longshot for the NBA Finals.

Us Celtics fans would love to see some moves but Brad Stevens has no urgency at all. In one way this is good because that means that if Stevens does a deal it will probably be a good one. The bad news is Brad Stevens might not do anything at all except for some accounting housekeeping.

Celtics are in a great spot, we all just need to be patient. Brad Stevens will be patient.

See this is where I disagree - I need to figure out what Brad’s going to do before he does it for internet points. Therefore urgency = high!!

[165bows]

Can someone confirm they definitely can’t reacquire Porzingis.

Eg a three team deal with Simons going out and KP coming back, like the Atlanta-AD rumor. At least then you can resign him for a modest future deal which I’m not interested in with Simons.

[Curmudgeon]

Turner is absolutely the worst idea in my view. Clint Capella is a 5th wheel on a Rockets team loaded with 7 footers, and ought to be the Celtics' target with Hauser as the bait. Alternatively you offer Simons and a pick for Capella and Finney-Smith, assuming you are willing to eat Finny-Smith's deal. He's coming off surgery and has barely played, so the Rockets might be willing to unload him. Healthy, he's a useful player, but it's a gamble.

[Fierce1]

Turner is absolutely the worst idea in my view. Clint Capella is a 5th wheel on a Rockets team loaded with 7 footers, and ought to be the Celtics' target with Hauser as the bait. Alternatively you offer Simons and a pick for Capella and Finney-Smith, assuming you are willing to eat Finny-Smith's deal. He's coming off surgery and has barely played, so the Rockets might be willing to unload him. Healthy, he's a useful player, but it's a gamble.

Capela is a good idea.

Just not Hauser for Capela.

And no long-term contract like Finney-Smith's.

Regarding Myles Turner, his contract is just too big.
But as a player, I think Turner fits in nicely with Mazzulla-Ball.

[Cricket23]

AD to Atlanta is a hot rumor. If Okongwu ever became attainable, that is the guy I'd want.

[djFan71]

The thing is that despite the Celtics excellent season to date, 19-12 and 3rd place in the East, the Celtics have no urgency to do anything. Celtics are still in the evaluation process and are still a longshot for the NBA Finals.

Us Celtics fans would love to see some moves but Brad Stevens has no urgency at all. In one way this is good because that means that if Stevens does a deal it will probably be a good one. The bad news is Brad Stevens might not do anything at all except for some accounting housekeeping.

Celtics are in a great spot, we all just need to be patient. Brad Stevens will be patient.

See this is where I disagree - I need to figure out what Brad’s going to do before he does it for internet points. Therefore urgency = high!!

I'll throw you a few points for the grinding mindset. No kicking back and waiting!

[Fierce1]

AD to Atlanta is a hot rumor. If Okongwu ever became attainable, that is the guy I'd want.

I agree.

But I think the plan would be to use AD as a PF and Okongwu as the C.

[Fencer reregistered]

Turner is absolutely the worst idea in my view. Clint Capella is a 5th wheel on a Rockets team loaded with 7 footers, and ought to be the Celtics' target with Hauser as the bait. Alternatively you offer Simons and a pick for Capella and Finney-Smith, assuming you are willing to eat Finny-Smith's deal. He's coming off surgery and has barely played, so the Rockets might be willing to unload him. Healthy, he's a useful player, but it's a gamble.

Is it your opinion that Capela still has positive value?

[Dogen]

AD to Atlanta is a hot rumor. If Okongwu ever became attainable, that is the guy I'd want.

It looks like ATL may want to move Risacher though.
https://basketnews.com/news-237743-nba-expert-drops-brutal-reality-check-on-zaccharie-risacher-amid-hawks-trade-rumors.html

Not that it means that Okongwu won't also be available, but he might be a guy they want to keep as AD insurance, and make moves elsewhere.

Risacher + Kennard + 2029 ATL 2nd for Simons + Boucher + 2026 BOS 1st. If ATL wants to move on from Risacher while Johnson develops and the Simons expiring helps them this summer, it could be an interesting add for Celtics to get another young wing. Maybe that's not enough, but a 3 team deal could be made. Add that to a second trade of Hauser to DET for Paul Reed.

Queta/Tatum/Brown/White/Pritchard
Reed/Walsh/Risacher/Kennard/González
Garza/Scheierman/Minott/Tillman

It depends on what Zaccharie Risacher is capable of becoming. Wasn't worthy of the #1 pick, but is he a bust? Or just 20 with potential? Could be a nice add at low cost in his 3rd/4th year if in Boston, and he could really blossom in the system as part of the younger group, complimenting Walsh & Hugo.

[Fierce1]

I don't think Risacher is worth it.

I mean we already have Hugo and Walsh.

If you're not sold on Walsh then Hugo's your guy.
Hugo has All-Star potential.

Right now the guy I really think that can move the needle is Michael Porter Jr.
If the Cs can get him for Simons, Hauser, and a pick, it's going to give the Cs that big time scorer off the bench.
Something that Simons and Hauser can't do for the Celtics right now.

[Dogen]

I don't think Risacher is worth it.

I mean we already have Hugo and Walsh.

If you're not sold on Walsh then Hugo's your guy.
Hugo has All-Star potential.

Right now the guy I really think that can move the needle is Michael Porter Jr.
If the Cs can get him for Simons, Hauser, and a pick, it's going to give the Cs that big time scorer off the bench.
Something that Simons and Hauser can't do for the Celtics right now.

That's a lot of salary to bring back, and more players need to be involved, like Boucher added, then BKN would need to waive a couple players and Celtics would need to add a couple top get back to 14, without gping back over the first apron.

Porter Jr. would be taking a swing that the Celtics can get back to the finals this year and next though. He sure seems to light it up when he plays us. Boston had no answer for him in the last game.

As for Zaccharie Risacher, I see him as very different than Walsh and Hugo. Maybe it's too many young wings, but I could see them on the court at the same time. In fact, a young small-ball lineup of Scheierman, Hugo, Risacher, Walsh and Minott could make for a fun bench mob. Zach would be the primary offensive player in that lineup as he can really finish, although technically that is not a great shooting lineup.

[redslastlaugh]

AD to Atlanta is a hot rumor. If Okongwu ever became attainable, that is the guy I'd want.

It looks like ATL may want to move Risacher though.
https://basketnews.com/news-237743-nba-expert-drops-brutal-reality-check-on-zaccharie-risacher-amid-hawks-trade-rumors.html

Not that it means that Okongwu won't also be available, but he might be a guy they want to keep as AD insurance, and make moves elsewhere.

Risacher + Kennard + 2029 ATL 2nd for Simons + Boucher + 2026 BOS 1st. If ATL wants to move on from Risacher while Johnson develops and the Simons expiring helps them this summer, it could be an interesting add for Celtics to get another young wing. Maybe that's not enough, but a 3 team deal could be made. Add that to a second trade of Hauser to DET for Paul Reed.

Queta/Tatum/Brown/White/Pritchard
Reed/Walsh/Risacher/Kennard/González
Garza/Scheierman/Minott/Tillman

It depends on what Zaccharie Risacher is capable of becoming. Wasn't worthy of the #1 pick, but is he a bust? Or just 20 with potential? Could be a nice add at low cost in his 3rd/4th year if in Boston, and he could really blossom in the system as part of the younger group, complimenting Walsh & Hugo.

This is an interesting idea, and I want to like it just because it's something new... but I'm just not a big Risacher guy, I don't really like him that much as a player

[Larry_Russell]

Turner is absolutely the worst idea in my view. Clint Capella is a 5th wheel on a Rockets team loaded with 7 footers, and ought to be the Celtics' target with Hauser as the bait. Alternatively you offer Simons and a pick for Capella and Finney-Smith, assuming you are willing to eat Finny-Smith's deal. He's coming off surgery and has barely played, so the Rockets might be willing to unload him. Healthy, he's a useful player, but it's a gamble.

I think turner is better than simons and far moreoveable.

I dont really see why he couldnt be flipped again if it wasnt working.

I would do your deal too that beimg said. I am not a fan of simons

[Larry_Russell]

AD to Atlanta is a hot rumor. If Okongwu ever became attainable, that is the guy I'd want.

It looks like ATL may want to move Risacher though.
https://basketnews.com/news-237743-nba-expert-drops-brutal-reality-check-on-zaccharie-risacher-amid-hawks-trade-rumors.html

Not that it means that Okongwu won't also be available, but he might be a guy they want to keep as AD insurance, and make moves elsewhere.

Risacher + Kennard + 2029 ATL 2nd for Simons + Boucher + 2026 BOS 1st. If ATL wants to move on from Risacher while Johnson develops and the Simons expiring helps them this summer, it could be an interesting add for Celtics to get another young wing. Maybe that's not enough, but a 3 team deal could be made. Add that to a second trade of Hauser to DET for Paul Reed.

Queta/Tatum/Brown/White/Pritchard
Reed/Walsh/Risacher/Kennard/González
Garza/Scheierman/Minott/Tillman

It depends on what Zaccharie Risacher is capable of becoming. Wasn't worthy of the #1 pick, but is he a bust? Or just 20 with potential? Could be a nice add at low cost in his 3rd/4th year if in Boston, and he could really blossom in the system as part of the younger group, complimenting Walsh & Hugo.

I would think R8schacher would be used in a AD trade.