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All things Draft Pick. #3

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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#61 » by The Corey's » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:06 am

ViperGTS wrote:
SparringPartner wrote:In my mind the below is a really good summer for the Celtics post Philly trade.

BOS - #5 (Isaac), WCS
SAC - #3

BOS - #7 (Ntilikina or DSJ)
MIN - Bradley, 2nd rounder 2017


Sign Gordon Hayward


BOS - PG13 (remember contract)
IND - Crowder, Zeller, Rozier, Mem 19, LAC 19



IT4/(Ntilikina or DSJ)
Hayward/Smart
PG13/Brown
Horford/Isaac
WCS/Zizic

Maintain BRK 18
Maintain LALorSAC


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Guess we never hashed this one out. Why in the hell would Indy take meh players and meh picks for giving up PG? Don't see that working.


Because we have a finals to attend in 2018 damnit!
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#62 » by SparringPartner » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:06 am

The Celtics can beat CLE if they land H20 & PG13. That's NBA finals. The Warriors are formidable, but you still have to play the games.


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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#63 » by reload141 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:07 am

Reckon they are after Tatum as Haywards backup after they move Bradley/Crowder for Butler/George.
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Post#64 » by The Corey's » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:08 am

reload141 wrote:Reckon they are after Tatum as Haywards backup after they move Bradley/Crowder for Butler/George.


Id trade Bradley and Crowder for George. Throw in some picks too just not anything top 5
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#65 » by SparringPartner » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:09 am

ViperGTS wrote:
SparringPartner wrote:In my mind the below is a really good summer for the Celtics post Philly trade.

BOS - #5 (Isaac), WCS
SAC - #3

BOS - #7 (Ntilikina or DSJ)
MIN - Bradley, 2nd rounder 2017


Sign Gordon Hayward


BOS - PG13 (remember contract)
IND - Crowder, Zeller, Rozier, Mem 19, LAC 19



IT4/(Ntilikina or DSJ)
Hayward/Smart
PG13/Brown
Horford/Isaac
WCS/Zizic

Maintain BRK 18
Maintain LALorSAC


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Guess we never hashed this one out. Why in the hell would Indy take meh players and meh picks for giving up PG? Don't see that working.


IND's motivation is George leaving for notta. Very few teams will take the risk to trade for him because of that as well. This brings George's value down to around this level.


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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#66 » by ViperGTS » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:09 am

SparringPartner wrote:The Celtics can beat CLE if they land H20 & PG13. That's NBA finals. The Warriors are formidable, but you still have to play the games.


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Who's H20? And who stops Kyrie? Or Lebron? And PG13 is heading to LA. No chance he stays in Boston. Which is completely fine that is his prerogative.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#67 » by The Corey's » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:10 am

ViperGTS wrote:
SparringPartner wrote:The Celtics can beat CLE if they land H20 & PG13. That's NBA finals. The Warriors are formidable, but you still have to play the games.


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Who's H20? And who stops Kyrie? Or Lebron? And PG13 is heading to LA. No chance he stays in Boston. Which is completely fine that is his prerogative.


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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#68 » by Captain_Caveman » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:11 am

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Maybe

But your 5 straight finals predictions is gonna look rather silly in just a few short weeks

You're the one who is claiming trading the pick is connected to a bigger picture to acquiring a talent needed to be competitive sooner.

Which is great. I hope so. I'll apologize a million times over if THIS trade is the core move that leads us to the promise land.

However it need to be in the next 3.seasons because after that fultz and Simmons have the best promise going forward after that point.

Certainly not Jackson and brown


Keep looking for a way out.

Shout out to Future Caveman for necrof---ing this thread in 2020 or 2021 just to laugh at you for being so emo.


You mean 2018*

The first of 5 straight finals


So the standard for success on this trade is now making 5 straight finals?

Hahaha, you are **** terrified, and there is a nearly 100% chance you eat my balls on this.

I dare you to bookmark this, lol.
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All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#69 » by SparringPartner » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:11 am

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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#70 » by Parliament10 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:11 am

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Darthlukey wrote:Does this mean you are that high on fultz? Not a sarcastic question by any means I'm just curious in that you don't seem to place any value on any of the players we could get at 3


I was high on the value of pick number 1.

I don't think danny got a proper return. In fact I know he didn't. This is a fail of historic proportion.

Admittedly I am disappointed he didn't get both the Lakers and Sacto picks

I don't think it's worth it, without the addition of the Sacramento 2019.

#1 2017 Pick =
1st Round x 2017
1st Round x 2018
1st Round x 2019

Any 1st Rounder =
Lesser 1st Rounder in the same year.
And a 1st Rounder in a successive year.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#71 » by ViperGTS » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:12 am

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reload141 wrote:Reckon they are after Tatum as Haywards backup after they move Bradley/Crowder for Butler/George.


Id trade Bradley and Crowder for George. Throw in some picks too just not anything top 5


That doesn't work on Indys end either. They want a high lotto pick for PG even if he has one year left. They don't want FA to be Avery and Jae "No hops" Crowder. If that's all it took, Avery and Jae with a crappy pick..do it tomorrow even if for one year. Maybe you sell him on staying somehow, someway.
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Post#72 » by PierceFan4ever » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:14 am

Is there any way we can have a lineup of IT/Hayward/George/Griffin/Horford lol
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Post#73 » by The Corey's » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:15 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
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Captain_Caveman wrote:
Keep looking for a way out.

Shout out to Future Caveman for necrof---ing this thread in 2020 or 2021 just to laugh at you for being so emo.


You mean 2018*

The first of 5 straight finals


So the standard for success on this trade is now making 5 straight finals?

Hahaha, you are **** terrified, and there is a nearly 100% chance you eat my balls on this.

I dare you to bookmark this, lol.


Of course it's not my standard. That's absurd.

It's your standard when you said the Sixers can enjoy us playing in the next 5 June's.

Only teams in the finals play in June. If you wanna admit your mistake we can move on and I won't hold you to it. Otherwise I'm gonna take you at your word
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Post#74 » by reload141 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:15 am

People worried Sac will be out of the bottom 5 in 2 years? I'm sorry, what talent do they have to crawl out of those depths?
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#75 » by BigTrade92 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:16 am

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CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:To the insiders who know things - is the All-Star we are chasing via trade a name we've heard before, or is it a brand new name?


No inside info necessary. We know the names. Will try to add two, while keeping IT and Horford, but several top-tier and second-tier assets to boot.

Cannot wait to bury the haters in a funeral pyre of their own ****.

IT'S COMING.


How so? We all knew we could grab Butler or George with the first overall pick. That isn't exactly breaking news.

That problem a majority of us are having is that getting one of them and either Hayward or Griffin MAY get us past the Cavs, but it doesn't get us past the Warriors.

So if we're not winning a title by going "all in" now, then why go "all in"' now? Draft Fultz, develop him, Brown and the BKN 18 selection and build a stud team, a la the Warriors, that will replace the Warriors when they fade out.

Now we force our own hand to push all the chips in, and we may get 0 titles out of it. Oh and by the way, we just paved the way for the Sixers to have a power squad in a few years time.

This was an extremely shortsighted move.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#76 » by JJtheBricklayer » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:17 am

SparringPartner wrote:The Celtics can beat CLE if they land H20 & PG13. That's NBA finals. The Warriors are formidable, but you still have to play the games.


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Even with those 2 the Cavs are still a much better team, 3 of the 5 best players in that series are on the Cavs and Lebron is still head and shoulders above everyone else.

That trade basically turns us into a less talented version of the clippers, a good team but not a serious contender for the title
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#77 » by SparringPartner » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:17 am

ViperGTS wrote:
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reload141 wrote:Reckon they are after Tatum as Haywards backup after they move Bradley/Crowder for Butler/George.


Id trade Bradley and Crowder for George. Throw in some picks too just not anything top 5


That doesn't work on Indys end either. They want a high lotto pick for PG even if he has one year left. They don't want FA to be Avery and Jae "No hops" Crowder. If that's all it took, Avery and Jae with a crappy pick..do it tomorrow even if for one year. Maybe you sell him on staying somehow, someway.


Just no. If IND is willing to let George walk or hope he makes the All-NBA team, then so be it.

No team is giving up its war chest for the risk of George leaving. With that said, Ainge will have a better offer then the only other team willing to offer good assets, CLE (Love)


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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#78 » by Afam » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:17 am

Captain Caveman called the Celtics passing on Demarcus Cousin, and the Warriors getting Kevin Durant. Have to given him a benefit of the doubt here until proven otherwise.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#79 » by The Corey's » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:17 am

I'm just waiting for truth to come in here and lose it.
No Way he accepts this trade at face value.
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Re: All things Draft Pick. #3 

Post#80 » by Captain_Caveman » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:18 am

The Corey's wrote:Of course it's not my standard. That's absurd.

It's your standard when you said the Sixers can enjoy us playing in the next 5 June's.

Only teams in the finals play in June. If you wanna admit your mistake we can move on and I won't hold you to it. Otherwise I'm gonna take you at your word


Homie, you the one spending a whole day going all-in on hating this trade as a complete disaster.

My response?

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NOT GOING TO WORK OUT FOR YOU.

PREPARED TO BE BOARDED.

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