Around the NBA '17-'18 Season (Non-Celtics Talk)

[Bar Fight]

Simmons isn’t going to be amazing. Wait until until nut cutting time and I bet he turtles. Much like a Fultz...losing programs everywhere he has been.

He's already amazing. It's not a matter of opinion at this point. He's going to be a great NBA player for a long time.

Someone who can shoot isn’t a great player. Force him into jumpers and not baby hooks or within 3 feet? I’ll take Kuzma over him and that’s not saying much.

There have been plenty of all time great NBA players who weren't great shooters. I assume you're trolling at this point with your Kuzma > Simmons comment. That is one of the worst basketball opinions I've ever heard.

[Edug27]

He's already amazing. It's not a matter of opinion at this point. He's going to be a great NBA player for a long time.

Someone who can shoot isn’t a great player. Force him into jumpers and not baby hooks or within 3 feet? I’ll take Kuzma over him and that’s not saying much.

There have been plenty of all time great NBA players who weren't great shooters. I assume you're trolling at this point with your Kuzma > Simmons comment. That is one of the worst basketball opinions I've ever heard.

Jumper or not, Simmons is a better scorer.

[Theocy]

Someone who can shoot isn’t a great player. Force him into jumpers and not baby hooks or within 3 feet? I’ll take Kuzma over him and that’s not saying much.

There have been plenty of all time great NBA players who weren't great shooters. I assume you're trolling at this point with your Kuzma > Simmons comment. That is one of the worst basketball opinions I've ever heard.

Jumper or not, Simmons is a better scorer.

Yiannis used to be an awful shooter. STill is rather bad. I guess Kuzma > Yiannis too

[ViperGTS]

I’m using Kuzma as a point that the Simmons drooling is pathetic. Hell, in all seriousness I’ll take Tatum every day and twice on Sundays over Simmons. Not even a competition.

Simmons will be a good player. That’s it. Simmons was overrated coming out of the draft and seems to still be overrated.

[ViperGTS]

There have been plenty of all time great NBA players who weren't great shooters. I assume you're trolling at this point with your Kuzma > Simmons comment. That is one of the worst basketball opinions I've ever heard.

Jumper or not, Simmons is a better scorer.

Yiannis used to be an awful shooter. STill is rather bad. I guess Kuzma > Yiannis too

Don’t get me started in on the Greek Dud.

[Jakeopp]

Rockets are at 120 points through 3 quarters

[Jakeopp]

I’m using Kuzma as a point that the Simmons drooling is pathetic. Hell, in all seriousness I’ll take Tatum every day and twice on Sundays over Simmons. Not even a competition.

Simmons will be a good player. That’s it. Simmons was overrated coming out of the draft and seems to still be overrated.

What's overrated about a 21 year old averaging 18/9/8?

Your campaign against Giannis and now Simmons gets funnier by the day.

[leper-con]

Rockets are at 120 points through 3 quarters

phoenix sucks

[ViperGTS]

I’m using Kuzma as a point that the Simmons drooling is pathetic. Hell, in all seriousness I’ll take Tatum every day and twice on Sundays over Simmons. Not even a competition.

Simmons will be a good player. That’s it. Simmons was overrated coming out of the draft and seems to still be overrated.

What's overrated about a 21 year old averaging 18/9/8?

Your campaign against Giannis and now Simmons gets funnier by the day.

Because they have massive holes in their game. Simmons and the Dud can’t shoot very well from the outside. Now maybe that changes. Also, I don’t think Simmons is a winner. The Dud seems to be so he has that. And length.

Whenever the “experts” blow smoke up someone's ass I start to look for liabilities. And they both have them in spades.

[ViperGTS]

Rockets are at 120 points through 3 quarters

phoenix sucks

And people were pointing to Lonzos 29 pt night against the Suns as something special.

Harden is a crazy scorer though. Man..

[Jakeopp]

I’m using Kuzma as a point that the Simmons drooling is pathetic. Hell, in all seriousness I’ll take Tatum every day and twice on Sundays over Simmons. Not even a competition.

Simmons will be a good player. That’s it. Simmons was overrated coming out of the draft and seems to still be overrated.

What's overrated about a 21 year old averaging 18/9/8?

Your campaign against Giannis and now Simmons gets funnier by the day.

Because they have massive holes in their game. Simmons and the Dud can’t shoot very well from the outside. Now maybe that changes. Also, I don’t think Simmons is a winner. The Dud seems to be so he has that. And length.

Whenever the “experts” blow smoke up someone's ass I start to look for liabilities. And they both have them in spades.

Sure they have weaknesses, many/most young players do. Giannis still manages to put up 30PPG despite those flaws, he's only getting better at 22 years old. Even if he never becomes a great jump shooter, he's incredibly valuable with everything else he brings to the floor. Same with Simmons.

As for Simmons' "winning ability" it's pretty much a waste of time trying to decide that 14 games into his rookie season.

[ViperGTS]

What's overrated about a 21 year old averaging 18/9/8?

Your campaign against Giannis and now Simmons gets funnier by the day.

Because they have massive holes in their game. Simmons and the Dud can’t shoot very well from the outside. Now maybe that changes. Also, I don’t think Simmons is a winner. The Dud seems to be so he has that. And length.

Whenever the “experts” blow smoke up someone's ass I start to look for liabilities. And they both have them in spades.

Sure they have weaknesses, many/most young players do. Giannis still manages to put up 30PPG despite those flaws, he's only getting better at 22 years old. Even if he never becomes a great jump shooter, he's incredibly valuable with everything else he brings to the floor. Same with Simmons.

As for Simmons' "winning ability" it's pretty much a waste of time trying to decide that 14 games into his rookie season.

Well the Dud gets the benefit of being a bull in a China shop to get his 30. When I see a 19 year old in Tatum being able to operate at all 3 levels extremely well..it puts a massive dent in the salivating over Simmons and the Dud. If anything.. people should be doing carthweeels over Tatum. With Brown a close second.

[Moose23]

I’m using Kuzma as a point that the Simmons drooling is pathetic. Hell, in all seriousness I’ll take Tatum every day and twice on Sundays over Simmons. Not even a competition.

Simmons will be a good player. That’s it. Simmons was overrated coming out of the draft and seems to still be overrated.

What's overrated about a 21 year old averaging 18/9/8?

Your campaign against Giannis and now Simmons gets funnier by the day.

Because they have massive holes in their game. Simmons and the Dud can’t shoot very well from the outside. Now maybe that changes. Also, I don’t think Simmons is a winner. The Dud seems to be so he has that. And length.

Whenever the “experts” blow smoke up someone's ass I start to look for liabilities. And they both have them in spades.

Lebron came into the league not being able to shoot as well.

A massive hole in his game that teams exploited.

Worked out fine for him.

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[Kolkmania]

Because they have massive holes in their game. Simmons and the Dud can’t shoot very well from the outside. Now maybe that changes. Also, I don’t think Simmons is a winner. The Dud seems to be so he has that. And length.

Whenever the “experts” blow smoke up someone's ass I start to look for liabilities. And they both have them in spades.

Sure they have weaknesses, many/most young players do. Giannis still manages to put up 30PPG despite those flaws, he's only getting better at 22 years old. Even if he never becomes a great jump shooter, he's incredibly valuable with everything else he brings to the floor. Same with Simmons.

As for Simmons' "winning ability" it's pretty much a waste of time trying to decide that 14 games into his rookie season.

Well the Dud gets the benefit of being a bull in a China shop to get his 30. When I see a 19 year old in Tatum being able to operate at all 3 levels extremely well..it puts a massive dent in the salivating over Simmons and the Dud. If anything.. people should be doing carthweeels over Tatum. With Brown a close second.

At the end of the day it matters how efficiently you score, if Giannis can score 81.2% from 0-3 feet why would you shoot from three even if you're a league average shooter?

[ViperGTS]

Sure they have weaknesses, many/most young players do. Giannis still manages to put up 30PPG despite those flaws, he's only getting better at 22 years old. Even if he never becomes a great jump shooter, he's incredibly valuable with everything else he brings to the floor. Same with Simmons.

As for Simmons' "winning ability" it's pretty much a waste of time trying to decide that 14 games into his rookie season.

Well the Dud gets the benefit of being a bull in a China shop to get his 30. When I see a 19 year old in Tatum being able to operate at all 3 levels extremely well..it puts a massive dent in the salivating over Simmons and the Dud. If anything.. people should be doing carthweeels over Tatum. With Brown a close second.

At the end of the day it matters how efficiently you score, if Giannis can score 81.2% from 0-3 feet why would you shoot from three even if you're a league average shooter?

Because at the end of the day teams, like Boston, will force you out of that?

[Jakeopp]

Well the Dud gets the benefit of being a bull in a China shop to get his 30. When I see a 19 year old in Tatum being able to operate at all 3 levels extremely well..it puts a massive dent in the salivating over Simmons and the Dud. If anything.. people should be doing carthweeels over Tatum. With Brown a close second.

At the end of the day it matters how efficiently you score, if Giannis can score 81.2% from 0-3 feet why would you shoot from three even if you're a league average shooter?

Because at the end of the day teams, like Boston, will force you out of that?

Giannis put up 28 and 37 against us earlier in the year, on good efficiency.

Well the Dud gets the benefit of being a bull in a China shop to get his 30.

Why is dominating based on physical ability inferior to doing it with skill? At the end of the day, he's playing great basketball and putting up incredible numbers. Does it matter how he does it?

Your hilarious "dud" nickname for the freak has to be the most inaccurate nickname I've ever heard. He's a top ten player at age 22, I wish we had some "duds" on our team.

[ViperGTS]

At the end of the day it matters how efficiently you score, if Giannis can score 81.2% from 0-3 feet why would you shoot from three even if you're a league average shooter?

Because at the end of the day teams, like Boston, will force you out of that?

Giannis put up 28 and 37 against us earlier in the year, on good efficiency.

Well the Dud gets the benefit of being a bull in a China shop to get his 30.

Why is dominating based on physical ability inferior to doing it with skill? At the end of the day, he's playing great basketball and putting up incredible numbers. Does it matter how he does it?

Your hilarious "dud" nickname for the freak has to be the most inaccurate nickname I've ever heard. He's a top ten player at age 22, I wish we had some "duds" on our team.

Because it’s a problem in the NBA for the offensive player to initiate contact on a good defensive player and draw a foul or an and 1. So yeah, pardon me for disliking basic out of control play to draw fouls. That what the Dud does. Now, if he cleans his game up and becomes a more complete player I will remove the Dud moniker. Until then it stays.

[Homerclease]

Conley out indefinitely with a sore left Achilles. Memphis is starting to slip down the standings and now this. Top 8 protected next year? That pick may turn out to be solid gold as Conley and Gasol age

[ViperGTS]

Look at these a-holes. Something called the “Curry Challenge”.

[Darth Celtic]

Wizards are terrible.