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Post#61 » by redbeamer » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:18 am

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I mentioned on here a few months back that I have a friend in Philly who regularly serves Reddick at one of Philly's premier restaurants.

He's a good tipper, but the guy is a straight up alcoholic who drinks multiple bottles of wine to the face plus shots throughout and then does it the next day again.

Dude probably has his neurons crossed in that video. My friend said that he's the worst regular alcoholic the restaurant has had in his time there (he's been there a few years now). I doubt his brain is in good shape and we'll probably hear some bad stuff about him down the road if he keeps at the bottle like that.


That's crazy and sad. It makes you wonder how many pro athletes have skeletons like that in their closet.

That being said, it doesn't make him a racist. Sure he slipped up and said something he shouldn't have. I just don't buy it that he had racist intent.

How many times has Charles Barkley made disparaging comments about white people on air? The sad part is he is or at least used to be married to a white woman. Yet no one calls him racist.

What about Chris Rock. I haven't watched him lately but his whole shtick used to be degrading whites.

Racism is not acceptable in any fashion but JJ is not a racist because of a slip in an interview.

Racism isn't black and white, it's a spectrum. I'll give you an example. My grandma demands I do not date outside of my ethnicity. Then there are other Asian parents who are only willing to allow interracial dating with White people. Now, what can't be said is both these people are equally racist.

JJ did not mean to use a slur and that's not what I'm accusing him of doing. What I'm saying is that he has used the slur enough in his lifetime to blurt it out. One does not use different sounding words (chahy-neez and chingk) without the two words having an association in their perspective. Does this mean JJ hates Chinese people? No, not necessarily. None of us can read his mind, but it doesn't mean I'm going to group JJ with the KKK or the Nazis.

And yes, people of all races can be racist and it is true White people get much more flak for racism than minorities when they shouldn't if we want to promote real equality. Charles Barkley himself even admitted Black people can be racist:


However, that doesn't mean Barkley isn't racist to a degree himself. I'm willing to bet Charles has made multiple racial comments in his life and I'd make the same bet for almost every single person on this planet.

Chris Rock's standup largely poked fun at Black people and Black culture. He definitely makes jokes at White people's expense, but that's not his main material. Rock had a joke about how as a Black person, there is more respect for time spent in jail than educational degrees and that was a part of a whole bit about ignorance among certain groups of Black people.


I think I can see where you are coming from and I like your spectrum analogy. The way I have always thought of it is all people have some degree of prejudice because it is difficult to understand the nuances of other cultures. The natural reaction when people do not understand other groups is to be critical and disassociate themselves.

On the other hand, my idea of racism is when a person acts on those prejudices. Whether it be through direct action, verbally, or indirectly as in the case you described above.

I do not think our way of thinking is as far apart as I originally thought and I respect the way you continued the dialog. I could have done better with my initial reply. I suppose my interpretation was that you thought JJ is some flaming racist and I wholeheartedly disagree with that. Thanks for helping me understand where you are coming from.
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Re: Around the NBA 2018 (Non-Celtics Talk) 

Post#62 » by Green89 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:48 am

Raptors are interested in Afflalo if he’s bought out.
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Post#63 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:19 am

My preseason MVP pick Kawhi Leonard is not looking too hot right now.
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Post#64 » by PierceFan4ever » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:29 am

Why am I dreaming of a scenario where Kawhi demands a trade this offseason to Boston and then Davis demands a trade himself which leads to him going to Boston which our new core will be Kyrie-Hayward-Leonard-Davis :lol:
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Post#65 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:45 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:Why am I dreaming of a scenario where Kawhi demands a trade this offseason to Boston and then Davis demands a trade himself which leads to him going to Boston which our new core will be Kyrie-Hayward-Leonard-Davis :lol:

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Post#66 » by Moose23 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:00 am

Green89 wrote:Raptors are interested in Afflalo if he’s bought out.
Would be a typical Raptors move that would do more harm than good

You know casey will play him over young guys like van fleet who has been instrumental in alot of games for them.

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Post#67 » by GoCeltics123 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:33 pm

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Hmmmmm might this have something to do with LeBron James???
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Post#68 » by 3D Chess » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:39 pm

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Hmmmmm might this have something to do with LeBron James???

Reference to Sloan conference

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Re: Around the NBA 2018 (Non-Celtics Talk) 

Post#69 » by GoCeltics123 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:13 pm

Read on Twitter


This article makes it seem like LeBron will leave...seems LA and Houston are his best options
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Post#70 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:49 pm

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Read on Twitter


This article makes it seem like LeBron will leave...seems LA and Houston are his best options


Lebron wont play with Ball because of his dad. My guess is that the Lakers will trade Ball, Kuzma or Ingram, along with Deng's contract, to get an All-Star. Lebron and George will follow.
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Re: Around the NBA 2018 (Non-Celtics Talk) 

Post#71 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:08 pm

**** LeBron. I wish all these NBA owners just joined up and all agreed to not include a no trade clause in this fools contract..would be wonderful to watch him squirm to choose a new team thinking he could possibly end up traded to a 15 win team at the tail end of his career.
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Re: Around the NBA 2018 (Non-Celtics Talk) 

Post#72 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:40 pm

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:**** LeBron. I wish all these NBA owners just joined up and all agreed to not include a no trade clause in this fools contract..would be wonderful to watch him squirm to choose a new team thinking he could possibly end up traded to a 15 win team at the tail end of his career.


If LeBron leaves Cleveland, I think the only other team that could give him an NTC would be the Miami Heat, and he wouldn't get it until next year. You need to have played at least 8 years in the NBA, with 4 being with your most current team.
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Post#73 » by mademan » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:52 pm

Article makes no sense. We just saw Gilbert pay like an extra 50 mill in luxury tax at the trade deadline and trade a pick to try and convince Lebron to stay. You really think after all that money+all the other repeater tax he has/will pay, that they wouldnt sign Lebron because of a NTC?
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Post#74 » by GoCeltics123 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:20 pm

mademan wrote:Article makes no sense. We just saw Gilbert pay like an extra 50 mill in luxury tax at the trade deadline and trade a pick to try and convince Lebron to stay. You really think after all that money+all the other repeater tax he has/will pay, that they wouldnt sign Lebron because of a NTC?

Yeah I do, it's been known Gilbert wants to run things and giving LBJ a no-trade clause gives him no leverage over LeBron.

Gilbert is a selfish prick, it's been known for a while. Those trades were to help convince him but also keep a competitive team if he leaves, as Cleveland doesn't want to go through another rebuild like they had when LBJ left.
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Post#75 » by reload141 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:28 pm

I really hope that we can try and pry Kawhi from SAS.... a lineup of Irving/Kawhi/Hayward/Tatum/Horford. Dreamy.
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Post#76 » by mademan » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:40 pm

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mademan wrote:Article makes no sense. We just saw Gilbert pay like an extra 50 mill in luxury tax at the trade deadline and trade a pick to try and convince Lebron to stay. You really think after all that money+all the other repeater tax he has/will pay, that they wouldnt sign Lebron because of a NTC?

Yeah I do, it's been known Gilbert wants to run things and giving LBJ a no-trade clause gives him no leverage over LeBron.

Gilbert is a selfish prick, it's been known for a while. Those trades were to help convince him but also keep a competitive team if he leaves, as Cleveland doesn't want to go through another rebuild like they had when LBJ left.


If the options on the table are Lebron+NTC or no Lebron, Lebron+NTC wins everytime.
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Post#77 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:15 am

reload141 wrote:I really hope that we can try and pry Kawhi from SAS.... a lineup of Irving/Kawhi/Hayward/Tatum/Horford. Dreamy.


I feel like Kawhi will be more readily available this offseason relative to AD. I also feel that he’s the only guy who puts fear into KD and LeBron.

Ive been thinking about Kawhi for way too much these past few days. Your referenced closing lineup would be the new ‘death lineup’ and would straight up destroy teams.
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Post#78 » by reload141 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:44 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
reload141 wrote:I really hope that we can try and pry Kawhi from SAS.... a lineup of Irving/Kawhi/Hayward/Tatum/Horford. Dreamy.


I feel like Kawhi will be more readily available this offseason relative to AD. I also feel that he’s the only guy who puts fear into KD and LeBron.

Ive been thinking about Kawhi for way too much these past few days. Your referenced closing lineup would be the new ‘death lineup’ and would straight up destroy teams.


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Re: Around the NBA 2018 (Non-Celtics Talk) 

Post#79 » by mademan » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:47 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
reload141 wrote:I really hope that we can try and pry Kawhi from SAS.... a lineup of Irving/Kawhi/Hayward/Tatum/Horford. Dreamy.


I feel like Kawhi will be more readily available this offseason relative to AD. I also feel that he’s the only guy who puts fear into KD and LeBron.

Ive been thinking about Kawhi for way too much these past few days. Your referenced closing lineup would be the new ‘death lineup’ and would straight up destroy teams.


It'd be ridiculous. That said, if Tatum isnt part of the deal, a couple of teams can compete with a C's package headlined by Brown+SAC 1st.
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Re: Around the NBA 2018 (Non-Celtics Talk) 

Post#80 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:33 am

Personally not a fan of these energized Cavs. Lebron seems engaged again. They're defending, getting easy open looks, and running every chance they get. I liked them more when they sucked.
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