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Nick Foles looked like stinking hot smelly garbage tonight. And it pisses me off, where those few stops we couldn't get in the Super Bowl instead of making him look like prime Dan Marino out there? Wasted an easy ring for Brady not being able to get a stop or two vs. a backup QB.
Maybe it was Matt Patricia's fault. Have fun Lions!
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Red Sox lose and the slide has begun. Main culprit is good pitchers being able to pitch to this lineup. Key point Betts. Pitch him outside with curves and dotted FBs and he can’t hit it. He along with most are pull happy and that isn’t going to work. It was a fun ride and until something changes the lead will disappear as they play better teams.
This shows Betts issue. He’s cold on outside pitches because he has a pull swing on everything. Pitch him there and he’s a sub .200 hitter.
https://www.fangraphs.com/zonegrid.aspx?playerid=13611&position=2B/OF
This shows Betts issue. He’s cold on outside pitches because he has a pull swing on everything. Pitch him there and he’s a sub .200 hitter.
https://www.fangraphs.com/zonegrid.aspx?playerid=13611&position=2B/OF
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Red Sox lose a game by one run against a two time cy young winner=a slide has begun. Good lord that may be the most pre 2004 red sox fan thing ive ever seen. Also Mookie went 2-5 tonight, pssst that's really good.
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The Comedian wrote:Red Sox lose one game against a two time cy young winner=a slide has begun. Good lord that may be the most pre 2004 red sox fan thing ive ever seen. Also Mookie went 2-5 tonight, pssst that's really good.
No. I saw it at the AS game. Sherzer pounded the outside and Betts was helpless. Look at his heat chart. If pitchers pitch him there he doesn't adjust. Go look at the pitch he doubled on. Middle-in. Right in his wheelhouse.
Look, I’m pointing out they have a bunch of pull happy hitters. Moreland, first inning...takes an outside pitch to left. Bravo! 9th? Tries to pull a middle outer pitch and rolls it over to second.
Good pitchers will eat this lineup alive if they can execute.
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You're describing almost every hitter in baseball lol, great pitching almost always wins. How on earth has "the slide" begun?
I hope you understand how ridiculously over the top pessimistic that is.
I hope you understand how ridiculously over the top pessimistic that is.
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The Comedian wrote:You're describing almost every hitter in baseball lol, great pitching almost always wins. How on earth has "the slide" begun?
Red Sox mentality lol. My dad always tells me every year "the end is near" for the Red Sox since he grew up with getting his heartbroken.
I think even I have to see it to believe it most of the time with the Sox.
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The Comedian wrote:You're describing almost every hitter in baseball lol, great pitching almost always wins. How on earth has "the slide" begun?
I hope you understand how ridiculously over the top pessimistic that is.
Its because they will be facing elite pitchers in the next few weeks. That 9 game lead is in danger of going poof. Also, MVP candidates aren't almost every player in baseball either.
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ViperGTS wrote:The Comedian wrote:You're describing almost every hitter in baseball lol, great pitching almost always wins. How on earth has "the slide" begun?
I hope you understand how ridiculously over the top pessimistic that is.
Its because they will be facing elite pitchers in the next few weeks. That 9 game lead is in danger of going poof. Also, MVP candidates aren't almost every player in baseball either.
Here's Mike Trouts heat map. Guess what it looks remarkably similar to? That division lead is in no danger lol.
https://www.fangraphs.com/zonegrid.aspx?playerid=10155&position=OF
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ViperGTS wrote:Red Sox lose and the slide has begun. Main culprit is good pitchers being able to pitch to this lineup. Key point Betts. Pitch him outside with curves and dotted FBs and he can’t hit it. He along with most are pull happy and that isn’t going to work. It was a fun ride and until something changes the lead will disappear as they play better teams.
This shows Betts issue. He’s cold on outside pitches because he has a pull swing on everything. Pitch him there and he’s a sub .200 hitter.
https://www.fangraphs.com/zonegrid.aspx?playerid=13611&position=2B/OF
This is nonsense lol
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Homerclease wrote:ViperGTS wrote:Red Sox lose and the slide has begun. Main culprit is good pitchers being able to pitch to this lineup. Key point Betts. Pitch him outside with curves and dotted FBs and he can’t hit it. He along with most are pull happy and that isn’t going to work. It was a fun ride and until something changes the lead will disappear as they play better teams.
This shows Betts issue. He’s cold on outside pitches because he has a pull swing on everything. Pitch him there and he’s a sub .200 hitter.
https://www.fangraphs.com/zonegrid.aspx?playerid=13611&position=2B/OF
This is nonsense lol
Watch his at bats. Kluber pounded him outside and he K’d. He doesn’t have a go with the pitch swing. Its his biggest liability.
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ViperGTS wrote:Homerclease wrote:ViperGTS wrote:Red Sox lose and the slide has begun. Main culprit is good pitchers being able to pitch to this lineup. Key point Betts. Pitch him outside with curves and dotted FBs and he can’t hit it. He along with most are pull happy and that isn’t going to work. It was a fun ride and until something changes the lead will disappear as they play better teams.
This shows Betts issue. He’s cold on outside pitches because he has a pull swing on everything. Pitch him there and he’s a sub .200 hitter.
https://www.fangraphs.com/zonegrid.aspx?playerid=13611&position=2B/OF
This is nonsense lol
Watch his at bats. Kluber pounded him outside and he K’d. He doesn’t have a go with the pitch swing. Its his biggest liability.
Its everybodys biggest liability, i just showed you Mike Trouts heat map lol. Very few hitters are actually good at going the other way, pitchers can't just throw it there nonstop. You have to come inside, and Mookie makes them pay for it, just like all great hitters.
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ViperGTS wrote:Homerclease wrote:ViperGTS wrote:Red Sox lose and the slide has begun. Main culprit is good pitchers being able to pitch to this lineup. Key point Betts. Pitch him outside with curves and dotted FBs and he can’t hit it. He along with most are pull happy and that isn’t going to work. It was a fun ride and until something changes the lead will disappear as they play better teams.
This shows Betts issue. He’s cold on outside pitches because he has a pull swing on everything. Pitch him there and he’s a sub .200 hitter.
https://www.fangraphs.com/zonegrid.aspx?playerid=13611&position=2B/OF
This is nonsense lol
Watch his at bats. Kluber pounded him outside and he K’d. He doesn’t have a go with the pitch swing. Its his biggest liability.
This is the equivalent of when thetruth316 posted that we needed a stud after our 16 game winning streak was snapped last year. The Yankees have huge problems of their own. Their starting pitching is still trash, Severino has fallen off a cliff. Judge is still out, DiDi just got hurt, they have to worry more about holding off the A’s rather than catching the Sox
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Homerclease wrote:ViperGTS wrote:Homerclease wrote:This is nonsense lol
Watch his at bats. Kluber pounded him outside and he K’d. He doesn’t have a go with the pitch swing. Its his biggest liability.
This is the equivalent of when thetruth316 posted that we needed a stud after our 16 game winning streak was snapped last year. The Yankees have huge problems of their own. Their starting pitching is still trash, Severino has fallen off a cliff. Judge is still out, DiDi just got hurt, they have to worry more about holding off the A’s rather than catching the Sox
The Spankees have their own issues for sure. My big issue is if you show you flat out refuse to go the other way, why would a pitcher throw inside?
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ViperGTS wrote:Homerclease wrote:ViperGTS wrote:
Watch his at bats. Kluber pounded him outside and he K’d. He doesn’t have a go with the pitch swing. Its his biggest liability.
This is the equivalent of when thetruth316 posted that we needed a stud after our 16 game winning streak was snapped last year. The Yankees have huge problems of their own. Their starting pitching is still trash, Severino has fallen off a cliff. Judge is still out, DiDi just got hurt, they have to worry more about holding off the A’s rather than catching the Sox
The Spankees have their own issues for sure. My big issue is if you show you flat out refuse to go the other way, why would a pitcher throw inside?
Yet he’s still the best hitter in baseball. Sox drop two in a row and you saying the 9 game lead is in real danger is a massive leap
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Homerclease wrote:ViperGTS wrote:Homerclease wrote:This is the equivalent of when thetruth316 posted that we needed a stud after our 16 game winning streak was snapped last year. The Yankees have huge problems of their own. Their starting pitching is still trash, Severino has fallen off a cliff. Judge is still out, DiDi just got hurt, they have to worry more about holding off the A’s rather than catching the Sox
The Spankees have their own issues for sure. My big issue is if you show you flat out refuse to go the other way, why would a pitcher throw inside?
Yet he’s still the best hitter in baseball. Sox drop two in a row and you saying the 9 game lead is in real danger is a massive leap
As they stated at the beginning of the broadcast, as Mookie goes, they go. If hes waving at outside pitches trying to pull everything and anything they won’t go.
Its not hard to see. He can’t or refuses to adjust. Thus, if you watch where the catchers set up you will see its outside near every pitch. Only pitches Mookie hits are mistakes, and average pitchers make plenty of them. The elite guys, not so much.
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ViperGTS wrote:Homerclease wrote:ViperGTS wrote:
The Spankees have their own issues for sure. My big issue is if you show you flat out refuse to go the other way, why would a pitcher throw inside?
Yet he’s still the best hitter in baseball. Sox drop two in a row and you saying the 9 game lead is in real danger is a massive leap
As they stated at the beginning of the broadcast, as Mookie goes, they go. If hes waving at outside pitches trying to pull everything and anything they won’t go.
Its not hard to see. He can’t or refuses to adjust. Thus, if you watch where the catchers set up you will see its outside near every pitch. Only pitches Mookie hits are mistakes, and average pitchers make plenty of them. The elite guys, not so much.
Dude, pitchers always have the advantage. Why do you think the best hitters only get hits 30-35% of the time. Mookie is elite, it's not hard to see. And the poster Kyridiculous reminded me of this story from a month or so ago. Here, enjoy,
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/23974293/angels-mike-trout-red-sox-mookie-betts-opposite-approaches-perfect
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The Comedian wrote:ViperGTS wrote:Homerclease wrote:Yet he’s still the best hitter in baseball. Sox drop two in a row and you saying the 9 game lead is in real danger is a massive leap
As they stated at the beginning of the broadcast, as Mookie goes, they go. If hes waving at outside pitches trying to pull everything and anything they won’t go.
Its not hard to see. He can’t or refuses to adjust. Thus, if you watch where the catchers set up you will see its outside near every pitch. Only pitches Mookie hits are mistakes, and average pitchers make plenty of them. The elite guys, not so much.
Dude, pitchers always have the advantage. Why do you think the best hitters only get hits 30-35% of the time. Mookie is elite, and the poster Kyridiculous reminded me of this story. Here, enjoy.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/23974293/angels-mike-trout-red-sox-mookie-betts-opposite-approaches-perfect
Its because they refuse to adjust. If they went opposite of their approach every once in a while they would be more unpredictable.
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ViperGTS wrote:The Comedian wrote:ViperGTS wrote:
As they stated at the beginning of the broadcast, as Mookie goes, they go. If hes waving at outside pitches trying to pull everything and anything they won’t go.
Its not hard to see. He can’t or refuses to adjust. Thus, if you watch where the catchers set up you will see its outside near every pitch. Only pitches Mookie hits are mistakes, and average pitchers make plenty of them. The elite guys, not so much.
Dude, pitchers always have the advantage. Why do you think the best hitters only get hits 30-35% of the time. Mookie is elite, and the poster Kyridiculous reminded me of this story. Here, enjoy.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/23974293/angels-mike-trout-red-sox-mookie-betts-opposite-approaches-perfect
Its because they refuse to adjust. If they went opposite of their approach every once in a while they would be more unpredictable.
Yeah that's totally why batters struggle on pitches away, not the fact that you have less than a second to recognize the pitch and decide what to do with it. Or the fact that when you cant barrel a ball up you're going to make weaker contact. Batters focus middle in, because those are the pitches you can make the hardest contact on.
Ted Williams is likely the best hitter ever, and he only got hits 34% of the time. The problem here isn't batters refusing to adjust, it's you failing to understand just how hard it is to hit major league pitching.
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The Comedian wrote:ViperGTS wrote:The Comedian wrote:
Dude, pitchers always have the advantage. Why do you think the best hitters only get hits 30-35% of the time. Mookie is elite, and the poster Kyridiculous reminded me of this story. Here, enjoy.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/23974293/angels-mike-trout-red-sox-mookie-betts-opposite-approaches-perfect
Its because they refuse to adjust. If they went opposite of their approach every once in a while they would be more unpredictable.
Yeah that's totally why batters struggle on pitches away, not the fact that you have less than a second to recognize the pitch and decide what to do with it. Or the fact that when you cant barrel a ball up you're going to make weaker contact. Batters focus middle in, because those are the pitches you can make the hardest contact on.
Ted Williams is likely the best hitter ever, and he only got hits 34% of the time. The problem here isn't batters refusing to adjust, it's you failing to understand just how hard it is to hit major league pitching.
Wrong. Its not about getting a hit. It’s about making the proper swing decision. The catcher sets up outside to Betts. Every. Single. Time. Yet he pulls every swing. This has been going on for a while.
Do you remember Bogie last year and year before? They made it a point for him to go with the pitch and it worked wonders.
So yeah I know how hard it is to get a hit (they have fielders). To hit the baseball however shouldn't be as difficult, especially if you know its outside every time.




