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Re: 2021 Craft Your Boston Celtics Draft Thread 

Post#61 » by BK_2020 » Fri May 7, 2021 8:16 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:Can't draft and develop another wing player with Brown, Tatum, Fournier, Nesmith and Langford on the roster. I could easily see a Romeo Langford, Celtics 1st and maybe even a future 1st trade or Smart for the Celtics to move up in the draft. Ainge is in great position to move up in my opinion if there is someone he is targeting.

It's possible but difficult. The trading team has to have a pick higher enough to be worth trading for and be set with young talent so they are looking for complementary pieces. The lotto teams this season are all so devoid of talent that I think only NOP and GSW are likely trade targets for lotto picks.


New Orleans seems to be about the only slim possibility of moving where Smart & pick is swapped for Bledsoe and NO's pick, with Davion Mitchell as the target.

Golden State will be picking 14th or 15th, so can't see a deal with them.


GSW get the Minny pick if it falls outside top 3 .
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Post#62 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri May 7, 2021 8:44 pm

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BK_2020 wrote:It's possible but difficult. The trading team has to have a pick higher enough to be worth trading for and be set with young talent so they are looking for complementary pieces. The lotto teams this season are all so devoid of talent that I think only NOP and GSW are likely trade targets for lotto picks.


New Orleans seems to be about the only slim possibility of moving where Smart & pick is swapped for Bledsoe and NO's pick, with Davion Mitchell as the target.

Golden State will be picking 14th or 15th, so can't see a deal with them.


GSW get the Minny pick if it falls outside top 3 .


Can't see them giving up that pick for 1 year of Marcus Smart.
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Post#63 » by BK_2020 » Fri May 7, 2021 8:46 pm

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New Orleans seems to be about the only slim possibility of moving where Smart & pick is swapped for Bledsoe and NO's pick, with Davion Mitchell as the target.

Golden State will be picking 14th or 15th, so can't see a deal with them.


GSW get the Minny pick if it falls outside top 3 .


Can't see them giving up that pick for 1 year of Marcus Smart.

They won't so it's gonna have to be Jaylen.
Maybe something like:
Jaylen + Smart + RW or PP + #18 for

Wiggins + Wiseman + #5

I don't know if GSW do it even then.
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Post#64 » by Bleeding Green » Fri May 7, 2021 8:47 pm

Neemias Queta is gonna be a good player for sure. Zero bust potential, immediate impact. I just love bigs who know how to pass, they never fail except due to injury. He's a non-shooting big so his impact will be somewhat limited and he's not worth taking at ~17, and he'll be gone by ~47, but if they can move around the draft board and get him at the top of the second? Easy. This team needs another big as Rob Williams is clearly not someone you can count on for anything unfortunately.

Day'ron Sharpe is also kinda nice but I don't trust bigs who can't put the ball in the hoop. He's got playmaking ability too, but 50% from the FT line and he scores as effectively as Andre Drummond, so who really cares? You're 7 feet tall, put the ball in the hoop bro.

Sandro Mamukelashvili is gonna be fun to watch. I don't see him on draftboards really. Looks like a walmart version of Jokic. 6'11" with ridiculous handle, mobility and passing vision. Shot 43% from 3 as a junior then took a step back this year. Shot looks kinda clean to me, but I'm not shooting scout. He moves so fluidly. I would def take this guy at 47. Will never be a good defender but if his shooting and passing vision play out, I think it's fine. Plus he's a lefty which adds 1 pt to coolness.
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Post#65 » by Curmudgeon » Fri May 7, 2021 10:16 pm

They need to go big, especially since any guard drafted out of the top ten may not be as good as Yom Madar.
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Post#66 » by JediMasterRevan » Fri May 7, 2021 11:25 pm

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Scoonie wrote:I also really like Isaiah Todd form the G-League Ignite team. He's long (6'10), athletic, can run, and can shoot. He shot 38% from NBA 3-point land as a 19 year old right out of high school this past season. He reminds me of a taller, better shooting Daniel Theis with more upside and athleticism. We may be able to get him in the early 2nd round. Kid is being underrated by the NBA Draft evaluators.




Todd is quickly becoming more and more of a binkie for me after doing more research on him.

Alot of posters here want John Collins, well here is john collins imo.

Can shoot, can dribble, can rebound, has range, has speed, has length.

His turnaround jumper is borderline unstoppable and his defense is improving and he is only 19.


now THAT is some classic run/jump athleticism!
sign me up for that guy, honestly. My 10 minutes of draft research are done:)
that's like how Zach LaVine did squat in his one year of college hoops but was still a lottery pick because he LOOKED like a prototypical basketball star -- and it's worked out for him. Doesn't work out for lots, I know -- and tankathon has Todd ranked 66 (http://www.tankathon.com/players/isaiah-todd) -- but binky acquired.


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Post#67 » by jmr07019 » Fri May 7, 2021 11:37 pm

Shooting, wing defenders and bigs is what I am looking for.
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Post#68 » by playa-hater » Sat May 8, 2021 3:25 am

Concerning Scottie Barnes. I once mentioned he attended a HS near me. saw him as the top 5 ranked freshman till his junior year. Saw his bad shooting form from day one. I wanted to help. but inquired around a bit and "heard" he was a lazy POS. Saw him hanging around with the son of a billionaire who bought a starting spot on Barnes varsity team. Heard from a few sources that all SB did was play fortnight.

Rumors or truth?? well year after year he got stronger naturally but didn't actually improve anything. Now 5 years later a kid blessed with McGrady like talent still can't shoot to save his life. Ironically he went to the same HS as Ben Simmons for his senior year for one of the only HS coaches who gets 6 figures to coach HS BB. One of the biggest frauds in HS sports. Pay and get great players and don't improve them period.

Now S Barnes, just like Ben Simmons, has become a freak talent with a mental midget approach to the game and will just cruise along with his god given talents. I hate the kid's mentality. Hate the hanger on ass kisses who helped fuel it. Don't expect him to ever live up to his potential. But similar to Ben Simmons, his talent is still going to get him paid.
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Post#69 » by Bleeding Green » Sat May 8, 2021 5:52 am

I mean just watch him play. He isn't lazy on the court. Oh no, he plays fortnite. I play fortnite too. Every NBA player plays a **** ton of video games.

If he's only as good as Ben Simmons, an All-NBA player, oh no the horror. Although he's obviously not nearly the talent that Simmons is. Simmons is the DPOY and the best transition player in basketball. Scottie Barnes is a Draymond/Diaw player if he gets there and he has massive bust potential. But if Celtics pick at 17, I'm willing to take a chance on a high bust player.
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Post#70 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat May 8, 2021 8:47 am

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Day'ron Sharpe is also kinda nice but I don't trust bigs who can't put the ball in the hoop. He's got playmaking ability too, but 50% from the FT line and he scores as effectively as Andre Drummond, so who really cares? You're 7 feet tall, put the ball in the hoop bro.



Bleeding Green wrote:Neemias Queta is gonna be a good player for sure. Zero bust potential, immediate impact. I just love bigs who know how to pass, they never fail except due to injury. He's a non-shooting big


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Post#71 » by Maple Green » Sat May 8, 2021 12:34 pm

I am tired seeing Boston draft small..or under height..
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Post#72 » by JediMasterRevan » Sat May 8, 2021 2:51 pm

Draft Ayo and Todd.

Its a must for me.

Only players on this team I woupd keep moving forward are:

Tatum
Brown
Smart
Timelord
Nesmith
Pritchard
Thompson
Kornet
Hopefully Fournier

Everyone else can be move to make the todd and ayo drafting happen.

Ayo/pritchard
Smart/fournier
Brown/nesmith
Tatum/todd
Timelord/thompson

Ball is in tatum and browns hands alot but ayo and smart will make excellent defensive/playmaking pair at the guard spots who are completely interchangeable.

Team can employ a 100% switch all defense
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Post#73 » by Bleeding Green » Sat May 8, 2021 3:12 pm

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Day'ron Sharpe is also kinda nice but I don't trust bigs who can't put the ball in the hoop. He's got playmaking ability too, but 50% from the FT line and he scores as effectively as Andre Drummond, so who really cares? You're 7 feet tall, put the ball in the hoop bro.



Bleeding Green wrote:Neemias Queta is gonna be a good player for sure. Zero bust potential, immediate impact. I just love bigs who know how to pass, they never fail except due to injury. He's a non-shooting big


Have you two met?

Queta puts the ball in the hoop. Sharpe doesn't.

Non-shooting big, as in: he doesn't have a jumper and his offense will be limited in the NBA.
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Post#74 » by CelticFaninLBC » Sat May 8, 2021 6:12 pm

JediMasterRevan wrote:Draft Ayo and Todd.

Its a must for me.

Only players on this team I woupd keep moving forward are:

Tatum
Brown
Smart
Timelord
Nesmith
Pritchard
Thompson
Kornet
Hopefully Fournier

Everyone else can be move to make the todd and ayo drafting happen.

Ayo/pritchard
Smart/fournier
Brown/nesmith
Tatum/todd
Timelord/thompson

Ball is in tatum and browns hands alot but ayo and smart will make excellent defensive/playmaking pair at the guard spots who are completely interchangeable.

Team can employ a 100% switch all defense


Ayo is similar to Langford. Both long playmaking guards, who can defend. from the same recruiting class. Romeo was top 5, whereas Ayo was top 30... Romeo was better as a freshman in college. Ayo really improved his three point shot this year, but has a low release on his shot.
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Post#75 » by threrf23 » Sat May 8, 2021 6:31 pm

Any reason there's been talk about trying to acquire Lonzo Ball, but no talk about trading up to acquire Jalen Suggs?
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Post#76 » by Bill Lumbergh » Sat May 8, 2021 6:34 pm

My disgust with this team has reached the point where I hope we lose in the play in tournament, then jump up in the lottery for a top 4 pick. Ideal situation.
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Post#77 » by CelticFaninLBC » Sat May 8, 2021 6:42 pm

NuckyPowell wrote:My disgust with this team has reached the point where I hope we lose in the play in tournament, then jump up in the lottery for a top 4 pick. Ideal situation.


Given the Celtics will likely have 2-3 key players either hurt or sick this is sounds very plausible.
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Post#78 » by Bleeding Green » Sat May 8, 2021 8:38 pm

threrf23 wrote:Any reason there's been talk about trying to acquire Lonzo Ball, but no talk about trading up to acquire Jalen Suggs?

How are they going to get a top-2 pick? Suggs might even go first overall if the right team gets that pick.
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Post#79 » by JediMasterRevan » Sat May 8, 2021 9:50 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:Draft Ayo and Todd.

Its a must for me.

Only players on this team I woupd keep moving forward are:

Tatum
Brown
Smart
Timelord
Nesmith
Pritchard
Thompson
Kornet
Hopefully Fournier

Everyone else can be move to make the todd and ayo drafting happen.

Ayo/pritchard
Smart/fournier
Brown/nesmith
Tatum/todd
Timelord/thompson

Ball is in tatum and browns hands alot but ayo and smart will make excellent defensive/playmaking pair at the guard spots who are completely interchangeable.

Team can employ a 100% switch all defense


Ayo is similar to Langford. Both long playmaking guards, who can defend. from the same recruiting class. Romeo was top 5, whereas Ayo was top 30... Romeo was better as a freshman in college. Ayo really improved his three point shot this year, but has a low release on his shot.



Ayo and romeo are nothing alike.

Ayo is superior at everythibg to romeo amd is far closer to westbrook than romeo
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Post#80 » by CelticFaninLBC » Sat May 8, 2021 10:03 pm

JediMasterRevan wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:Draft Ayo and Todd.

Its a must for me.

Only players on this team I woupd keep moving forward are:

Tatum
Brown
Smart
Timelord
Nesmith
Pritchard
Thompson
Kornet
Hopefully Fournier

Everyone else can be move to make the todd and ayo drafting happen.

Ayo/pritchard
Smart/fournier
Brown/nesmith
Tatum/todd
Timelord/thompson

Ball is in tatum and browns hands alot but ayo and smart will make excellent defensive/playmaking pair at the guard spots who are completely interchangeable.

Team can employ a 100% switch all defense


Ayo is similar to Langford. Both long playmaking guards, who can defend. from the same recruiting class. Romeo was top 5, whereas Ayo was top 30... Romeo was better as a freshman in college. Ayo really improved his three point shot this year, but has a low release on his shot.



Ayo and romeo are nothing alike.

Ayo is superior at everythibg to romeo amd is far closer to westbrook than romeo


Romeo would have dominated as a college junior just like Ayo did... I'm an Illinois fan, so watch lots of Big 10 ball and seen Ayo a lot.

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