Welcome to Boston, Hugo Gonzalez!

[themoneyteam2]

Good on Brad for having this leeway on just throwing away draft picks by the fanbase, problem is we wont win **** anytime soon.

If you know spanish, just go read the comments on the most famous spanish sports journal about this guy https://www.marca.com/baloncesto/nba/2025/06/26/hugo-gonzalez-elegido-puesto-28-draft-nba-boston-celtics.html#google_vignette , in case you dont, i'll save you some time, 99% of the people don't think he's got a chance of making it.

They aren't winning anything without JT next year btw.

And he was better than Egor Demin (top 10 pick) and Jasparas (#20 pick) for the last few years in Spain. The difference is they both went to play in college and he stuck around on the Madrid superteam.

I'm not saying he's going to instantly be a hit, but maybe give him a chance to develop before you write him off 8 hours post pick?

And oh, I'll trust everything I read/saw from scouts and tournaments over a random spanish sports journal lmao

Hopefully he plays summer league to see how good those scouts are.

Yep - summer league is always the truth as to who is a hit or not with end of 1st round draft picks!

For now, stick to your spanish sports journal analysis, since it's clear you've never watched him and have ZERO idea of the type of prospect the Celtics just drafted.

I'm not upset you don't know him. I wouldn't expect a casual fan to. But pretending like you hate the pick 8 hours after is comical I'm sorry.

[jonige94]

They aren't winning anything without JT next year btw.

And he was better than Egor Demin (top 10 pick) and Jasparas (#20 pick) for the last few years in Spain. The difference is they both went to play in college and he stuck around on the Madrid superteam.

I'm not saying he's going to instantly be a hit, but maybe give him a chance to develop before you write him off 8 hours post pick?

And oh, I'll trust everything I read/saw from scouts and tournaments over a random spanish sports journal lmao

Hopefully he plays summer league to see how good those scouts are.

Yep - summer league is always the truth as to who is a hit or not with end of 1st round draft picks!

For now, stick to your spanish sports journal analysis, since it's clear you've never watched him and have ZERO idea of the type of prospect the Celtics just drafted.

I'm not upset you don't know him. I wouldn't expect a casual fan to. But pretending like you hate the pick 8 hours after is comical I'm sorry.

When he busts, because he will, comeback to this chat and tell me I have zero idea of the prospect we drafted, and dont dissapear.

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The list of guys who were in a major media outlet preseason top-5 mock and then, come draft night, went this late is not an inspirational list.
Usually it means a guy got over hyped as a highschool aged prospect, teams put tons of resources into scouting him and the player was then exposed or really disappointed in his draft year. Again, a huge fall from projected top 5 to barely 1st round is not usually a positive indicator.

It's the Skal Labissiere indicator. Sometimes called the Felipe Lopez indicator. And infrequently referred to as the Lenny Cooke indicator

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Also on that list is Jalil Bethea, who perhaps won't be drafted at all.

At least he got the Cooper Flagg pick right!

To some extent, I agree..Often times these guys don't pan out. Romeo Langford is another. And Patrick Baldwin Jr.

Peyton Watson has turned out pretty well though..and is a somewhat similar prospect to Hugo. Many had Watson as a top 5 pick before UCLA where he had a kind of rough freshman season, slipped to late in the 1st round..year 1 was mostly g league for a really good nuggets team but year 2 and beyond he's developed into a solid rotational wing for them.

Also, Jaylen Brown and Anthony Edwards - while they did end up going high in the draft, both have them were not very good during their age 19 season before they were drafted..many folks thought they should've gotten drafted lower than they did. Lots of people thought they were reaches because of poor production/efficiency numbers. But they turned out alright.

Scottie Barnes came off the bench during his pre-draft season. He was a similar case - many people were skeptical about his jumper and whether he deserved to be picked that high due to some meh stats in his pre-draft season. Similar situation with Lamelo.

Hugo was on a stacked Real Madrid team - they had a better roster than any other roster that a draft prospect was on - was playing against competition that was tougher than any other prospect in this draft faced. Ace Bailey, Carter Bryant, Nique Clifford - there's a chance that if you put any of those guys on Real Madrid, they wouldn't have done any better than Hugo did..and if you put Hugo on Rutgers, Arizona or Colorado St, there's a chance Hugo would have done just as well as those guys did - if not better.

[themoneyteam2]

Hopefully he plays summer league to see how good those scouts are.

Yep - summer league is always the truth as to who is a hit or not with end of 1st round draft picks!

For now, stick to your spanish sports journal analysis, since it's clear you've never watched him and have ZERO idea of the type of prospect the Celtics just drafted.

I'm not upset you don't know him. I wouldn't expect a casual fan to. But pretending like you hate the pick 8 hours after is comical I'm sorry.

When he busts, because he will, comeback to this chat and tell me I have zero idea of the prospect we drafted, and dont dissapear.

Actually the point isn't whether he's a bust or not.

It's the fact that you've never heard of him and are trying to pretend like you do. And that you have unrealistic expectations for the 28th pick and what they are looking for.

It's honestly funny how upset you are for a late 1st round pick that 8 hours ago you had no idea existed. Funny stuff!

[phincsfan]

Would have been nice if Hugo took the big bag that BYU offered to play with Egor last season.

I hope more of these kids come over to the states to make scouting easier.

[themoneyteam2]

The list of guys who were in a major media outlet preseason top-5 mock and then, come draft night, went this late is not an inspirational list.
Usually it means a guy got over hyped as a highschool aged prospect, teams put tons of resources into scouting him and the player was then exposed or really disappointed in his draft year. Again, a huge fall from projected top 5 to barely 1st round is not usually a positive indicator.

It's the Skal Labissiere indicator. Sometimes called the Felipe Lopez indicator. And infrequently referred to as the Lenny Cooke indicator

Also on that list is Jalil Bethea, who perhaps won't be drafted at all.

At least he got the Cooper Flagg pick right!

To some extent, I agree..Often times these guys don't pan out. Romeo Langford is another. And Patrick Baldwin Jr.

Peyton Watson has turned out pretty well though..and is a somewhat similar prospect to Hugo.

Also, Jaylen Brown and Anthony Edwards - while they did end up going high in the draft, both have them were not very good during their age 19 season before they were drafted..many folks thought they should've gotten drafted lower than they did. Lots of people thought they were reaches because of poor production/efficiency numbers. But they turned out alright.

Scottie Barnes came off the bench during his pre-draft season. He was a similar case - many people were skeptical about his jumper and whether he deserved to be picked that high due to some meh stats in his pre-draft season. Similar situation with Lamelo.

Hugo was on a stacked Real Madrid team - they had a better roster than any other roster that a draft prospect was on - was playing against competition that was tougher than any other prospect in this draft faced. Ace Bailey, Carter Bryant, Nique Clifford - there's a chance that if you put any of those guys on Real Madrid, they wouldn't have done any better than Hugo did..and if you put Hugo on Rutgers, Arizona or Colorado St, there's a chance Hugo would have done just as well as those guys did - if not better.

And to add to this, Hugo was better than Egor Demin at every step of the way for their Spain U-18 team and Real Madrid. The difference is Egor went to BYU and showed out while Hugo stuck it out on Madrid's superteam. That's not to say Hugo will be better than Egor in the NBA, but just shows a year ago he was seen as the better prospect and I'm sure if he could do it over would've taken the offer to play in college. The same for Jasparas who got picked #20 too.

[phincsfan]

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They must all go to the barber on the same day.

Which one is Hugo ?

[sisibilio]

The Spanish Jordan Walsh, who's even a worse shooter than him.

The amount of gymnatics most guys on this forum are doing to justify this horrendous pick is beyond laughable.

It’s ok to simply say you’ve never heard about him and have no analysis to add!

Don’t pretend to know anything about him or the draft or how picks at the end of the first round work. If you’re this upset at the 28th pick (and somehow projected to go in that range), I have serious concerns for you lol

Good on Brad for having this leeway on just throwing away draft picks by the fanbase, problem is we wont win **** anytime soon.

If you know spanish, just go read the comments on the most famous spanish sports journal about this guy https://www.marca.com/baloncesto/nba/2025/06/26/hugo-gonzalez-elegido-puesto-28-draft-nba-boston-celtics.html#google_vignette , in case you dont, i'll save you some time, 99% of the people don't think he's got a chance of making it.

99% of the people comenting in marca.com are trolls and/or morons.
In case you want to dig into spanish prospects check
https://foros.acb.com/forum/index.php%3Fthread/504159-cantera-afrobasket-u18-feb-s-angt-de-valencia-a-la-vuelta-de-la-esquina/%26pageNo%3D621&ved=2ahUKEwiMjLTonI-OAxWbVqQEHaZBEYEQFnoECAwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3JWldgnlcxmP5vgqeMQxs2

[flintsky21]

One of these Brad Steven draft swings are eventually gonna hit, right?

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Would have been nice if Hugo took the big bag that BYU offered to play with Egor last season.

I hope more of these kids come over to the states to make scouting easier.

No offense, but it's really not that hard to scout overseas players and compare them to college players if you know what you're doing.

This guy AVC has a youtube channel where he posts scouting report vids on all the top rated prospects and he actually says in a few of his vids that it's easier to evaluate overseas players than college prospects because the level of play, the spacing, the types of schemes, sets they run, etc. in the top overseas pro leagues are closer to what you see in the NBA than the college game.

https://www.youtube.com/@_AVC_

He actually pokes fun quite a bit at the NCAA game, how you will often see like 2 guys posting up in the paint at the same time in college - while a teammate is trying to drive the ball to the basket. Or like, instead of spacing out to the corner like he's supposed to, a guy will be just standing in the paint crowding the area, guys will just fall down for no reason, etc. Like he makes fun (in a joking way) at how bad some of the players are in college and how archaic some of the sets/offenses are that NCAA teams run.

A rough outline of how good the different leagues are besides the NBA:

EuroLeague
Spain ACB
Turkey
France LNB
Australia NBL
Adriatic league
G league
Italy
Greece
Germany
NCAA (high major conferences)
Israel
Serbia (KLS)
NCAA Mid major conferences

[phincsfan]

I’m not scouting, I just want to watch basketball and use my eye test. Not a fan of highlight clips.

Egor playing at BYU and Kasparas playing in college let me see them a lot.

I’m also a fan that the league got rid of gleague ignite.

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AVC with a short breakdown on what he thinks of the Hugo pick here at 16:30..he gives it a B grade..

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I’m not scouting, I just want to watch basketball and use my eye test. Not a fan of highlight clips.

Egor playing at BYU and Kasparas playing in college let me see them a lot.

I’m also a fan that the league got rid of gleague ignite.

Ohh, that's fair. It's definitely easier if you're in the US to watch full games of the college guys.

Real Madrid, pretty much all I can find is those short highlight vids on youtube for their games so ya, I hear ya. That does make it harder to scout them - I wasn't sure that was what you meant.

I do like the Hardwood Hoops channel though which puts together 1 vid for each prospect with like 1.5 - 2.5 hours worth of footage from their season, across lots of games, both good and bad clips which help make it easier to see what they can/can't do..here's Hugo's vid on there:

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[bisme37]

Welcome Hugo. He's coming over this season but may not play summer league.

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Welcome Hugo. He's coming over this season but may not play summer league.

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Yeah, what that is referencing is the FIBA EuroBasket 2025 tournament, which Spain will be playing in.

Hugo should hopefully get a decent amount of playing time for the Spain national team, which will likely also feature guys like Juancho Hernangomez, Usman Garuba, Willy Hernangomez and Santi Aldama. Some good depth on that roster in 3-5 positions so maybe Hugo gets some decent mins at the 2..


Of course, he would choose representing his country over summer league. So our first chance to see him in a celtics uniform may not be until preseason.

[ThePigeon]

The only question here will Joe even play him?
I saw him brick 3s all season long which does not bode well.
I am not impressed by anything he does but he plays hard. Can be our Josh Hart in about 5-6 years if he develops

[jfs1000d]

The kid has motor and an athlete. Why him over McNeely, who has skill and is gonna be a good bench scorer eventually, I don't know.

I think simkynti bring him over. He should go to Australia or China for a year. Euroleague too good, he wont develop. Maybe Australia for a season instead of signing and then buried in the g league and taking up our cap.


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[sisibilio]

Welcome Hugo. He's coming over this season but may not play summer league.

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Yeah, what that is referencing is the FIBA EuroBasket 2025 tournament, which Spain will be playing in.

Hugo should hopefully get a decent amount of playing time for the Spain national team, which will likely also feature guys like Juancho Hernangomez, Usman Garuba, Willy Hernangomez and Santi Aldama. Some good depth on that roster in 3-5 positions so maybe Hugo gets some decent mins at the 2..


Of course, he would choose representing his country over summer league. So our first chance to see him in a celtics uniform may not be until preseason.

He could playing in the Eurobasket but i wouldn't bet the house on It.

[ParticleMan]

The only question here will Joe even play him?
I saw him brick 3s all season long which does not bode well.
I am not impressed by anything he does but he plays hard. Can be our Josh Hart in about 5-6 years if he develops

Brad seems to want to emphasize movement and cutting. If Joe is not on board with that I don't think his tenure here will be long. I think we are going to see more diversity on offense next year, yes it will be 3-heavy but less 5 guys standing around the arc waiting for the ball.

And a 6-6 Josh Hart would be a helluva get for a #28 pick.

[Shak_Celts]

So, I just got through all of his shot attempts (I fell asleep), he can’t shoot a lick. I don’t really know about forms but he looks like he’s not trying to do too much, it doesn’t look wonky, he doesn’t bring it low, it looks effortless, he doesn’t look off balance most of the time though it may be something I can’t see. He isn’t afraid to shoot it, not a lick of hesitation, and if you didn’t see it miss you would think it had a chance (it doesn’t). Love him going inside though, he isn’t afraid of being bumped, he gets by his man, he hustles for putbacks (rbs), and he has timely cuts. I think he’ll be fine on offense, if Joe gives him time and doesn’t only force him to spam 3s.


Edit: lots more video to go. Rebounding is next.


I don’t know if the video is in this thread but there is a long video showing him up until 2 months ago. It says Real Madrid, but I couldn’t tell you if it’s the big boys for sure or a lower team. Everyone around him looks like grown men though. I’ve seen Hezonja and other ex NBA players (can’t recall atm but guys I know).

Haven’t seen all the rebounds yet and I know nba players seems to suck at it imo, he’s going to get some rebounds!