Gentlemen Celts Spot Rest of League 1 Game Head Start! Opening Night Loss vs PHI 10/22
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Re: Gentlemen Celts Spot Rest of League 1 Game Head Start! Opening Night Loss vs PHI 10/22
It's hard to know what to make of this game because I am not sure what to think of the 76ers. 
Queta needs to do a better job avoiding foul trouble. Hes too important to this team. He had a nice stretch middle to late fourth quarter and when he fouled out things went down hill quickly.
Simons had some bad plays defensively but he's not the abomination so many said. He got 2 stocks and showed effort and hustle. I believe he will improve as the season goes along and will be just fine defensively by the time the playoffs roll around.
Agree with those calling for more Minott, Boucher and/or Hugo. Celtics scored 116 despite shooting poorly from 3. The problem isn't that the team didn't score 120+, the problem is giving up 117.
            
                                    
                                    Queta needs to do a better job avoiding foul trouble. Hes too important to this team. He had a nice stretch middle to late fourth quarter and when he fouled out things went down hill quickly.
Simons had some bad plays defensively but he's not the abomination so many said. He got 2 stocks and showed effort and hustle. I believe he will improve as the season goes along and will be just fine defensively by the time the playoffs roll around.
Agree with those calling for more Minott, Boucher and/or Hugo. Celtics scored 116 despite shooting poorly from 3. The problem isn't that the team didn't score 120+, the problem is giving up 117.
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One game in and the Tank Mafia is back?!  LOL going to be a longggg season for you folks.  Queta was a beast tonight, wish Joe didn't go on his suburban league substitution style the entire first half, absolutely no rhythm to the game.  Joe pushing for no timeout at the end says all we need to know about his X's and O's style, they don't really exist haha.  Anyways C's shoot 25% from 3's and should still have won this game....  Hauser needs a seat on the bench, he's been below average for a long time now, I'd insert Simons into the Lineup.  Overall not a great shooting night but this team will not be complete until midseason, so a lot of to look fwd to.  Def not getting tank vibes as a handful here now are hoping, it's game 1 and they lost by a pt.  Go C's!
            
                                    
                                    
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If Mazulla had left Queta in at the end the Celtics would have won the game.
            
                                    
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tfribs45 wrote:One game in and the Tank Mafia is back?! LOL going to be a longggg season for you folks. Queta was a beast tonight, wish Joe didn't go on his suburban league substitution style the entire first half, absolutely no rhythm to the game. Joe pushing for no timeout at the end says all we need to know about his X's and O's style, they don't really exist haha. Anyways C's shoot 25% from 3's and should still have won this game.... Hauser needs a seat on the bench, he's been below average for a long time now, I'd insert Simons into the Lineup. Overall not a great shooting night but this team will not be complete until midseason, so a lot of to look fwd to. Def not getting tank vibes as a handful here now are hoping, it's game 1 and they lost by a pt. Go C's!
This team is going nowhere this season. You will see.
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NYCelticsfan136 wrote:tfribs45 wrote:One game in and the Tank Mafia is back?! LOL going to be a longggg season for you folks. Queta was a beast tonight, wish Joe didn't go on his suburban league substitution style the entire first half, absolutely no rhythm to the game. Joe pushing for no timeout at the end says all we need to know about his X's and O's style, they don't really exist haha. Anyways C's shoot 25% from 3's and should still have won this game.... Hauser needs a seat on the bench, he's been below average for a long time now, I'd insert Simons into the Lineup. Overall not a great shooting night but this team will not be complete until midseason, so a lot of to look fwd to. Def not getting tank vibes as a handful here now are hoping, it's game 1 and they lost by a pt. Go C's!
This team is going nowhere this season. You will see.
def not Championship contenders, there will be a lot of ups and downs... but in the end this roster is in reload mode, not rebuild. See what you have and start trimming the FAT until JT is hopefully back to his NBA form.
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Curmudgeon wrote:If Mazulla had left Queta in at the end the Celtics would have won the game.
There's no way he could have, considering Queta fouled out.
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Celtics defense let up 42 points in the 4th quarter, that's really all that needs to be said. Defense and rebounding is going to be a struggle for this team all year. Celtics did do a decent job on the glass last night.
The Celtics lack of rim protection except for Queta (who can't stay on the court because of fouls) is going to kill the Celtics all year. I believe Stevens needs to do something if they are serious about winning (which I don't believe they are).
            
                                    
                                    
                        The Celtics lack of rim protection except for Queta (who can't stay on the court because of fouls) is going to kill the Celtics all year. I believe Stevens needs to do something if they are serious about winning (which I don't believe they are).
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NYCelticsfan136 wrote:tfribs45 wrote:One game in and the Tank Mafia is back?! LOL going to be a longggg season for you folks. Queta was a beast tonight, wish Joe didn't go on his suburban league substitution style the entire first half, absolutely no rhythm to the game. Joe pushing for no timeout at the end says all we need to know about his X's and O's style, they don't really exist haha. Anyways C's shoot 25% from 3's and should still have won this game.... Hauser needs a seat on the bench, he's been below average for a long time now, I'd insert Simons into the Lineup. Overall not a great shooting night but this team will not be complete until midseason, so a lot of to look fwd to. Def not getting tank vibes as a handful here now are hoping, it's game 1 and they lost by a pt. Go C's!
This team is going nowhere this season. You will see.
That Sixers team is AWFUL and the C's schedule to start the season is brutal. VJ and Maxey are good sure but Embiid is a corpse and their role players suck
This Celtics team is going to be very bad
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Simons played nearly the same minutes last night as he played in Portland last year. The main difference is he averaged 16 shots per game there, but only took 10 last night. Even if you're going to have him come off the bench, he needs more touches/shots for us to be successful this season. No one else aside from JB is skilled at consistent scoring like Simons is.
            
                                    
                                    
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Not getting wrapped up in w/l results this year but enjoying seeing an entirely different product and figuring out what the hell it is.
Things I liked last night:
- Al Queta - high energy, effective and great cuts for easy looks
- Outside of one portion of the game where they got tense, the offense was moving and fluid for the most part. We got a lot of easy looks (and missed a lot) but ones that didn't come off static plays with everybody ball watching
- Really liked JB's facilitating vs trying to take over the game. Outside of a few plays, he looked naturally confident and was very effective
- Simons looked plenty serviceable on the defensive end, a few missed assignments but played with high effort and made two solid pokes at the ball, he gives a crap and I like it
            
                                    
                                    Things I liked last night:
- Al Queta - high energy, effective and great cuts for easy looks
- Outside of one portion of the game where they got tense, the offense was moving and fluid for the most part. We got a lot of easy looks (and missed a lot) but ones that didn't come off static plays with everybody ball watching
- Really liked JB's facilitating vs trying to take over the game. Outside of a few plays, he looked naturally confident and was very effective
- Simons looked plenty serviceable on the defensive end, a few missed assignments but played with high effort and made two solid pokes at the ball, he gives a crap and I like it
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GoCeltics123 wrote:NYCelticsfan136 wrote:tfribs45 wrote:One game in and the Tank Mafia is back?! LOL going to be a longggg season for you folks. Queta was a beast tonight, wish Joe didn't go on his suburban league substitution style the entire first half, absolutely no rhythm to the game. Joe pushing for no timeout at the end says all we need to know about his X's and O's style, they don't really exist haha. Anyways C's shoot 25% from 3's and should still have won this game.... Hauser needs a seat on the bench, he's been below average for a long time now, I'd insert Simons into the Lineup. Overall not a great shooting night but this team will not be complete until midseason, so a lot of to look fwd to. Def not getting tank vibes as a handful here now are hoping, it's game 1 and they lost by a pt. Go C's!
This team is going nowhere this season. You will see.
That Sixers team is AWFUL and the C's schedule to start the season is brutal. VJ and Maxey are good sure but Embiid is a corpse and their role players suck
This Celtics team is going to be very bad
At least the Celtics don't have a 4 year and $240 million Joel Embiid problem.
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Celts17Pride wrote:GoCeltics123 wrote:NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
This team is going nowhere this season. You will see.
That Sixers team is AWFUL and the C's schedule to start the season is brutal. VJ and Maxey are good sure but Embiid is a corpse and their role players suck
This Celtics team is going to be very bad
At least the Celtics don't have a 4 year and $240 million Joel Embiid problem.
Celtics going to be bad is an Overreaction IMO, They should crack the top 6 in the East and this roster will clean up through trade, buyouts and a possible JT return.
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Green89 wrote:Curmudgeon wrote:If Mazulla had left Queta in at the end the Celtics would have won the game.
There's no way he could have, considering Queta fouled out.
I thought he only had 5.
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Curmudgeon wrote:Green89 wrote:Curmudgeon wrote:If Mazulla had left Queta in at the end the Celtics would have won the game.
There's no way he could have, considering Queta fouled out.
I thought he only had 5.
Queta playing hard - Check
Queta playing smart and hard - Work in progress
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Team isn't good. 
Passing ability relative to their position:
PP < avg
White >
Brown <
Boucher <
Queta <
Simons <
Hauser =
This team can shoot. I will give them that. But they are challenged from a passing standpoint. Last night was a meh performance.
So below average passing team and Norton protection.
Also, the Tatum 4 spot with. Hauser, Boucher, Minot is a tragedy.
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                        Passing ability relative to their position:
PP < avg
White >
Brown <
Boucher <
Queta <
Simons <
Hauser =
This team can shoot. I will give them that. But they are challenged from a passing standpoint. Last night was a meh performance.
So below average passing team and Norton protection.
Also, the Tatum 4 spot with. Hauser, Boucher, Minot is a tragedy.
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tfribs45 wrote:Celts17Pride wrote:GoCeltics123 wrote:That Sixers team is AWFUL and the C's schedule to start the season is brutal. VJ and Maxey are good sure but Embiid is a corpse and their role players suck
This Celtics team is going to be very bad
At least the Celtics don't have a 4 year and $240 million Joel Embiid problem.
Celtics going to be bad is an Overreaction IMO, They should crack the top 6 in the East and this roster will clean up through trade, buyouts and a possible JT return.
They are cutting money to this team, they aren't adding to it
If last night is an indication of this season, it will go south quickly and they're probably going to be really bad. We'll see
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Honestly, the Celtics played hard and were entertaining last night. That's all that I wanted to see. You can't lose Holiday, Horford, Porzingis, Kornet and Tatum and replace them with Simons, Garza, Boucher, Tillman and Minott and not expect a major drop off. It's just unrealistic to think otherwise.
My only complaint about last night is no minutes for Hugo. Hugo needs to play 15+ minutes per night because he represents hope for the future.
            
                                    
                                    
                        My only complaint about last night is no minutes for Hugo. Hugo needs to play 15+ minutes per night because he represents hope for the future.
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Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics defense let up 42 points in the 4th quarter, that's really all that needs to be said. Defense and rebounding is going to be a struggle for this team all year. Celtics did do a decent job on the glass last night.
The Celtics lack of rim protection except for Queta (who can't stay on the court because of fouls) is going to kill the Celtics all year. I believe Stevens needs to do something if they are serious about winning (which I don't believe they are).
And a Big part of that was PP- Simons and White lineup. Before the season started, I said I would hate that lineup. They can score but they are just too small.
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I mentioned Hauser is my former "binky". I feel his value is higher when played along side "great players" like Tatum. He can help keep spacing. But in this situation, I have felt the need for a more "impactful player" of all around things. Reason why I made Minott my current Binky. Better defense, energy and switch-ability as examples. Plus anyone in their right mind knows we are not contending for 19 this season. So development of young, higher ceiling players like Minott and Hugo should be a Priority. Especially when their "floor" is already similar to Hauser.
            
                                    
                                    2 things need to go.. my lack of spell check and Joe.. 
                        







