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What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling?

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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#601 » by 50yrceltsfan » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:14 pm

As a shooter, his J is as unblockable as Robert Parish's, the rhythm looks so relaxed, and from the corner his range looks like behind the bench.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#602 » by floyd » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:17 pm

It’ll be interesting to see how well he does against the Raptors and their very good defense. Philly with no Simmons is pretty bad on that end.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#603 » by Theocy » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:56 pm

His ceiling is between Paul George and durant. And that will be a function of consistency. He hasn't been at that level yet.

Coupled with jaylens ceiling which is probably something close to Paul George we can have a really strong duo for years and years.

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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#604 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:25 pm

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PierceFan4ever wrote:Hopefully nobody brings up Paul George because I think Tatum is arguably as good as peak Paul George. And yeah I know he had that year where he was 3rd in mvp but who cares he got his ass kicked by Lillard in 5 games and then the previous playoffs he got embarrassed by Joe Ingles in the first round. Tatum already starting off with 2 monster games in the playoffs.

Ceiling wise? No idea but to me he has best player in the league potential. Maybe not possibly stat wise but impact wise for sure.


He also took the lebron heat 7 games


During that season PG averaged 17 ppg and then averaged 19 ppg for the conference finals. That was a team effort

Paul George playoff success has been pretty bad lately which is why I see Tatum’s ceiling far higher cause I think he’s as good as peak PG whatever year that is. I am taking him with ease this season for sure.


Oh ok...so when the team fails it’s his fault only and when the team has success the team gets credit only. Seems fair. He have to play defense that series didn’t he?
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#605 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:30 pm

I’m just saying do I think tatum will have a better career ceiling than PG? Yes most likely but nothing is guaranteed?

Players don’t always develop the way fan bases and media think the will. Some make huge leaps and never get to that next level. Do you know how hard it is to be a top 5 player in the nba? People drop mvp talk, top 5 talk and you even hear Kobe dropped almost casually.

I love love love tatum, kids a stud and a franchise player and I do think he’ll be top 6 but it’s not some fait accompli- at all. George is a top 10 elite 2 way player year in year out for the most part- even getting that level of player in the nba is much harder than it seems.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#606 » by 3D Chess » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:06 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:I’m just saying do I think tatum will have a better career ceiling than PG? Yes most likely but nothing is guaranteed?

Players don’t always develop the way fan bases and media think the will. Some make huge leaps and never get to that next level. Do you know how hard it is to be a top 5 player in the nba? People drop mvp talk, top 5 talk and you even hear Kobe dropped almost casually.

I love love love tatum, kids a stud and a franchise player and I do think he’ll be top 6 but it’s not some fait accompli- at all. George is a top 10 elite 2 way player year in year out for the most part- even getting that level of player in the nba is much harder than it seems.

You realize this is a thread to discuss the ceiling of a 22 year old player who, according to the opening post, in February was 9th on the MVP rankings and by all accounts has only gotten better since then, right?

I assume you have watched the games lately? This isn't a fluke. The guy has been clowning the top half of the league. Sure, there are no guarantees, but OP asked what his ceiling is. If he's already top 10-15 at age 22, while half of the top 10 are on the back end of their careers... what else is there to say?
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#607 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:10 pm

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MagicBagley18 wrote:I’m just saying do I think tatum will have a better career ceiling than PG? Yes most likely but nothing is guaranteed?

Players don’t always develop the way fan bases and media think the will. Some make huge leaps and never get to that next level. Do you know how hard it is to be a top 5 player in the nba? People drop mvp talk, top 5 talk and you even hear Kobe dropped almost casually.

I love love love tatum, kids a stud and a franchise player and I do think he’ll be top 6 but it’s not some fait accompli- at all. George is a top 10 elite 2 way player year in year out for the most part- even getting that level of player in the nba is much harder than it seems.

You realize this is a thread to discuss the ceiling of a 22 year old player who, according to the opening post, in February was 9th on the MVP rankings and by all accounts has only gotten better since then, right?

I assume you have watched the games lately? This isn't a fluke. The guy has been clowning the top half of the league. Sure, there are no guarantees, but OP asked what his ceiling is. If he's already top 10-15 at age 22, while half of the top 10 are on the back end of their careers... what else is there to say?



Who the hell are u? I’m responding back to the idea that I said his ceiling could a PG like player.and people being insulted What are u the thread police? not a fluke, your talking about a 35-40 game sample not even a season yet. Of course those numbers extrapolate out to a top 5 player but he hasn’t done that for a season yet.

What else is their to say? is that just because he’s projecting higher than top 10 it doesn’t mean he’ll end up there. I’m assuming you can read
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#608 » by 3D Chess » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:14 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
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MagicBagley18 wrote:I’m just saying do I think tatum will have a better career ceiling than PG? Yes most likely but nothing is guaranteed?

Players don’t always develop the way fan bases and media think the will. Some make huge leaps and never get to that next level. Do you know how hard it is to be a top 5 player in the nba? People drop mvp talk, top 5 talk and you even hear Kobe dropped almost casually.

I love love love tatum, kids a stud and a franchise player and I do think he’ll be top 6 but it’s not some fait accompli- at all. George is a top 10 elite 2 way player year in year out for the most part- even getting that level of player in the nba is much harder than it seems.

You realize this is a thread to discuss the ceiling of a 22 year old player who, according to the opening post, in February was 9th on the MVP rankings and by all accounts has only gotten better since then, right?

I assume you have watched the games lately? This isn't a fluke. The guy has been clowning the top half of the league. Sure, there are no guarantees, but OP asked what his ceiling is. If he's already top 10-15 at age 22, while half of the top 10 are on the back end of their careers... what else is there to say?



Who the hell are u? I’m responding back to the idea that I said his ceiling could a PG like player.and people being insulted What are u the thread police? not a fluke, your talking about a 35-40 game sample not even a season yet. Of course those numbers extrapolate out to a top 5 player but he hasn’t done that for a season yet.

What else is their to say? is that just because he’s projecting higher than top 10 it doesn’t mean he’ll end up there. I’m assuming you can read

You*, you're*, there*. Yes, I can read, and I can spell.

And you are correct that projecting him to end up top 10 doesn't mean he will end up there. But that's what a 'ceiling' discussion is about. Where *could* he end up, all going well.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#609 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:16 pm

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MagicBagley18 wrote:I’m just saying do I think tatum will have a better career ceiling than PG? Yes most likely but nothing is guaranteed?

Players don’t always develop the way fan bases and media think the will. Some make huge leaps and never get to that next level. Do you know how hard it is to be a top 5 player in the nba? People drop mvp talk, top 5 talk and you even hear Kobe dropped almost casually.

I love love love tatum, kids a stud and a franchise player and I do think he’ll be top 6 but it’s not some fait accompli- at all. George is a top 10 elite 2 way player year in year out for the most part- even getting that level of player in the nba is much harder than it seems.

You realize this is a thread to discuss the ceiling of a 22 year old player who, according to the opening post, in February was 9th on the MVP rankings and by all accounts has only gotten better since then, right?

I assume you have watched the games lately? This isn't a fluke. The guy has been clowning the top half of the league. Sure, there are no guarantees, but OP asked what his ceiling is. If he's already top 10-15 at age 22, while half of the top 10 are on the back end of their careers... what else is there to say?


Kemba Walker is listed as a fringe mvp contender on that bs list....gimme a break. 9th in mvp voting? Who gives a damn. Outside of the top 3 nothing matters and oh btw the player I said his ceiling is POSSIBLE he could end up being close to finished 3rd last season.

Your talking about he got better since February- yes, he’s played amazing but before you annoying someone to top 5 status as all but guarantee, yup I’d like to see it for an actual season...sorry. I know it’s crazy.

I love Tatum don’t act like I don’t but I also am not just going to pencil him in as a top 5 mvp level because fans here say he will be.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#610 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:17 pm

3D Chess wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
3D Chess wrote:You realize this is a thread to discuss the ceiling of a 22 year old player who, according to the opening post, in February was 9th on the MVP rankings and by all accounts has only gotten better since then, right?

I assume you have watched the games lately? This isn't a fluke. The guy has been clowning the top half of the league. Sure, there are no guarantees, but OP asked what his ceiling is. If he's already top 10-15 at age 22, while half of the top 10 are on the back end of their careers... what else is there to say?



Who the hell are u? I’m responding back to the idea that I said his ceiling could a PG like player.and people being insulted What are u the thread police? not a fluke, your talking about a 35-40 game sample not even a season yet. Of course those numbers extrapolate out to a top 5 player but he hasn’t done that for a season yet.

What else is their to say? is that just because he’s projecting higher than top 10 it doesn’t mean he’ll end up there. I’m assuming you can read

You*, you're*, there*. Yes, I can read, and I can spell.

And you are correct that projecting him to end up top 10 doesn't mean he will end up there. But that's what a 'ceiling' discussion is about. Where *could* he end up, all going well.


I was discussing wasn’t I? so saying his ceiling is a pg level like career could be possible isn’t a discussion? No it is, it’s just not what fan boys like you wanna hear.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#611 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:24 pm

3D Chess wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
3D Chess wrote:You realize this is a thread to discuss the ceiling of a 22 year old player who, according to the opening post, in February was 9th on the MVP rankings and by all accounts has only gotten better since then, right?

I assume you have watched the games lately? This isn't a fluke. The guy has been clowning the top half of the league. Sure, there are no guarantees, but OP asked what his ceiling is. If he's already top 10-15 at age 22, while half of the top 10 are on the back end of their careers... what else is there to say?



Who the hell are u? I’m responding back to the idea that I said his ceiling could a PG like player.and people being insulted What are u the thread police? not a fluke, your talking about a 35-40 game sample not even a season yet. Of course those numbers extrapolate out to a top 5 player but he hasn’t done that for a season yet.

What else is their to say? is that just because he’s projecting higher than top 10 it doesn’t mean he’ll end up there. I’m assuming you can read

You*, you're*, there*. Yes, I can read, and I can spell.

And you are correct that projecting him to end up top 10 doesn't mean he will end up there. But that's what a 'ceiling' discussion is about. Where *could* he end up, all going well.


Ohhh man you played me......grammar game on point, I’m sure that got you laid a lot and I bet your real fun at parties. Bottom line is I’m extremely high on Tatum but playing the odds I’d say it’s more likely he ends up top10 than top 5 due to how hard it absolutely is to become that level of a stud.

You wanna call me out for suggesting he won’t be a top 5 player because of a half of a season of a sample size. All I’m saying is that it’s going to take more than that- to just solidify his ceiling.

If you wanna waive your panties in the air because he’s number 9 on an mvp ballot and take it as some sort of validation feel free.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#612 » by Feed Your Head » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:27 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
3D Chess wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:

Who the hell are u? I’m responding back to the idea that I said his ceiling could a PG like player.and people being insulted What are u the thread police? not a fluke, your talking about a 35-40 game sample not even a season yet. Of course those numbers extrapolate out to a top 5 player but he hasn’t done that for a season yet.

What else is their to say? is that just because he’s projecting higher than top 10 it doesn’t mean he’ll end up there. I’m assuming you can read

You*, you're*, there*. Yes, I can read, and I can spell.

And you are correct that projecting him to end up top 10 doesn't mean he will end up there. But that's what a 'ceiling' discussion is about. Where *could* he end up, all going well.


Ohhh man you played me......grammar game on point, I’m sure that got you laid a lot and I bet your real fun at parties. Bottom line is I’m extremely high on Tatum but playing the odds I’d say it’s more likely he ends up top10 than top 5 due to how hard it absolutely is to become that level of a stud.

You wanna call me out for suggesting he won’t be a top 5 player because of a half of a season of a sample size. All I’m saying is that it’s going to take more than that- to just solidify his ceiling.

If you wanna waive your panties in the air because he’s number 9 on an mvp ballot and take it as some sort of validation feel free.


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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#613 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:28 pm

The real question is what is this team's ceiling as presently constituted.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#614 » by 3D Chess » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:31 pm

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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#615 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:38 pm

The Comedian wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
3D Chess wrote:You*, you're*, there*. Yes, I can read, and I can spell.

And you are correct that projecting him to end up top 10 doesn't mean he will end up there. But that's what a 'ceiling' discussion is about. Where *could* he end up, all going well.


Ohhh man you played me......grammar game on point, I’m sure that got you laid a lot and I bet your real fun at parties. Bottom line is I’m extremely high on Tatum but playing the odds I’d say it’s more likely he ends up top10 than top 5 due to how hard it absolutely is to become that level of a stud.

You wanna call me out for suggesting he won’t be a top 5 player because of a half of a season of a sample size. All I’m saying is that it’s going to take more than that- to just solidify his ceiling.

If you wanna waive your panties in the air because he’s number 9 on an mvp ballot and take it as some sort of validation feel free.


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Let’s just enjoy the fact that we clearly have a legitimate number one on a championship team. AND HE’S AGING BACKWARDS.


I think you know that I’m about as high as tatum as anyone here....I’ve made that abundantly clear. It’s laughable for anyone to say I’m not all in on JT. I know where you stand also.

I want nothing more than him to be top 5 mvp and he’s trending that way but it’s also possible he ends up top 10 and that’s says more about how hard it is to be top 5 and it’s not a failure if he is a bonefide top 10 guy who makes multiple all star games, All nba teams and all defense teams.
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Post#616 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:39 pm

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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#617 » by Darth Celtic » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:52 pm

Watching the rockets I can see Tatum in five years as a taller harden who plays defense like NBA first team all defense.

I'm not even joking.

If he keeps getting stronger and better handles he already has the unlockable step back threes

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Post#618 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:00 pm

Darth Celtic wrote:Watching the rockets I can see Tatum in five years as a taller harden who plays defense like NBA first team all defense.

I'm not even joking.

If he keeps getting stronger and better handles he already has the unlockable step back threes

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Imagine if he ever starts getting to the line even remotely close as harden too or getting those calls....my god
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

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Spoiler:
I’d take him over Luka. Don’t care if it makes me a homer.
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Re: What is Jayson Tatum's ceiling? 

Post#620 » by Tatumfor2 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:50 pm

Someone remind me what year Giannis really took off physically? It will be way easier for JT to add the "reckless charge to the rim and get every call" game than it will be for GA to develop a jump shot. I'll ride with our guy who is mentally and physically growing by leaps and bounds right before our eyes. :nod:
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