Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 2

[Fencer reregistered]

I don't know exactly how many people need to come into close proximity for a basketball team to train. Players, coaches, trainers, chefs, various kinds of grunts. I'd guess it's 50-100 per team. If ANY of those people are infected, should the team be allowed to participate in games? If the answer is "no", then we're not getting a restart any time soon.

If the season resumes teams would have to accept that it isn't business as usual. Every star isn't going to be able to bring his own personal trainer, nutritionist, chef, etc. You might be looking at 1 chef for multiple teams. There's no reason a team needs 100 people to play a game. You need your 15 man roster, your coaches, and training staff. The training staff doesn't need to be more than 10 people. Owner and GM get to attend to. I know they're pampered millionaires but come onnnn. The rest of the country / world is sacrificing you're telling me NBA players can't?

If the season resumes then coaches, trainers, nutritionists and so on will have tougher jobs than usual, due to the lockdown/layoff. Slashing those people's numbers is not a good idea. If saving the postseason requires very unfair competition of very erratic quality with a very high chance of injury, why even bother? To some extent those factors will surely be present, but if they can't be sufficiently minimized, the whole effort should be called off.

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Actually, per WT and the underlying article, the figure seems to be 30-35 people per team onsite where the games are played.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29119309/inside-nba-urgent-decisions-tries-finish-season

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We're going to see a lot of stories like these: lots of institutions that understandably aren't set up to weather a sudden and prolonged economic shock will fold, and we will sadly lose a huge chunk of business and culture because of that.

[zoyathedestroya]

The damage this virus has done on lives, livelihood, and what makes life interesting in general -- sports, entertainment, culture, travel, arts, etc. -- has been unfathomable. It may be cliche at this point, but maybe the powerful nations really should've put more resources behind fighting diseases instead of fighting wars.

Somehow, some way we will recover, but I do hope those in power have been smacked silly and given a wake-up call after what's transpired over the last two months or so. I don't think COVID-19 will be the last and worst of it.

[KGboss]

The damage this virus has done on lives, livelihood, and what makes life interesting in general -- sports, entertainment, culture, travel, arts, etc. -- has been unfathomable. It may be cliche at this point, but maybe the powerful nations really should've put more resources behind fighting diseases instead of fighting wars.

Somehow, some way we will recover, but I do hope those in power have been smacked silly and given a wake-up call after what's transpired over the last two months or so. I don't think COVID-19 will be the last and worst of it.

Not our government they dont care

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[SuperDeluxe]

Science once again to the rescue. A few Massachusetts firms are involved.

The clickbait title is misleading - where it says "in your toilet" it should've said "in the sewers."

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[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

The damage this virus has done on lives, livelihood, and what makes life interesting in general -- sports, entertainment, culture, travel, arts, etc. -- has been unfathomable. It may be cliche at this point, but maybe the powerful nations really should've put more resources behind fighting diseases instead of fighting wars.

Somehow, some way we will recover, but I do hope those in power have been smacked silly and given a wake-up call after what's transpired over the last two months or so. I don't think COVID-19 will be the last and worst of it.

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My government, on a federal level, has been very good. They are paying people $2000/month to stay home, providing that they have been affected by the pandemic. Provinces are also adding funds or some form of other relief to help out their residents.

However, my provincial government, has decided to not give any sort of relief other than to delay property tax payments. And even though we are likely headed into a recession, rather than offering stimulus packages to keep money flowing, our moron of a premier (Canadian version of governor) has decided now would be a great time to slash provincial jobs in the educational sectors and crown corporations by 30%. We are also going to open up retail businesses, hair and nail salons, and restaurant patios starting on Monday. I'll give you a guess as to what kind of party is in power right now.

[KGboss]

The damage this virus has done on lives, livelihood, and what makes life interesting in general -- sports, entertainment, culture, travel, arts, etc. -- has been unfathomable. It may be cliche at this point, but maybe the powerful nations really should've put more resources behind fighting diseases instead of fighting wars.

Somehow, some way we will recover, but I do hope those in power have been smacked silly and given a wake-up call after what's transpired over the last two months or so. I don't think COVID-19 will be the last and worst of it.

Not our government they dont care

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My government, on a federal level, has been very good. They are paying people $2000/month to stay home, providing that they have been affected by the pandemic. Provinces are also adding funds or some form of other relief to help out their residents.

However, my provincial government, has decided to not give any sort of relief other than to delay property tax payments. And even though we are likely headed into a recession, rather than offering stimulus packages to keep money flowing, our moron of a premier (Canadian version of governor) has decided now would be a great time to slash provincial jobs in the educational sectors and crown corporations by 30%. We are also going to open up retail businesses, hair and nail salons, and restaurant patios starting on Monday. I'll give you a guess as to what kind of party is in power right now.

Well my government gave everyone one payment of 1200 dollars and said sink or **** swim while the banks and their corporate buddies got millions.

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My government, on a federal level, has been very good. They are paying people $2000/month to stay home, providing that they have been affected by the pandemic. Provinces are also adding funds or some form of other relief to help out their residents.

However, my provincial government, has decided to not give any sort of relief other than to delay property tax payments. And even though we are likely headed into a recession, rather than offering stimulus packages to keep money flowing, our moron of a premier (Canadian version of governor) has decided now would be a great time to slash provincial jobs in the educational sectors and crown corporations by 30%. We are also going to open up retail businesses, hair and nail salons, and restaurant patios starting on Monday. I'll give you a guess as to what kind of party is in power right now.

Well my government gave everyone one payment of 1200 dollars and said sink or **** swim while the banks and their corporate buddies got millions.

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I'm going to do something I haven't done very much in this thread: defend the US government. Congress passed a bill to increase unemployment benefits so that they are more generous than actually working (full income plus $600 a month), and expanded UI to cover gig workers, so the policy response to mass unemployment was dramatic and fairly generous. The real problem has been poor execution - most states have outdated unemployment insurance systems that were unable to handle the crush of new applicants, or have onerous and bureaucratic claim requirements (by design, to prevent easy access, for example). And nobody is really set up to easily determine whether or not a gig employee is eligible for uninsurance. So it's a definite mess, but not because the federal government wasn't ambitious enough about dedicating resources to the unemployed.

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We're going to see a lot of stories like these: lots of institutions that understandably aren't set up to weather a sudden and prolonged economic shock will fold, and we will sadly lose a huge chunk of business and culture because of that.

Bars, clubs and entertainment venues are always hanging by a string. If the places aren't packed and selling a lot of booze, they fold. But new venues (old normal) would pop up just the same. This is going to be very interesting because for one, nobody is going to be able to turn any kind of profit at the 25% capacity which is the general initial # I'm hearing around here, but the antidote to that is outdoor venues, which admittedly can only work seasonally. Some of my regular venues are going to be ****** because they rely on cramming a ton of people into small spaces to make money and don't have an option to be outdoors. But others have great outdoor layouts that are much safer logistically. A partial capacity requirement is a real quagmire for these businesses. On one hand they won't be able to stay solvent, on the other they won't be able to protect anyone if they don't adhere. And even saying that you can have less people in an establishment, while it might sound like a safe precaution on the surface really isn't. Its still a contagion nightmare given the rate of spread with this virus. One person can essentially infect the entire room.

It became apparent to me from the beginning that this is going to murder live music, comedy and general live entertainment. Not completely, but the way it operates now isn't going to be a viable business model anymore and for a large part it's already been on the way out culturally for awhile. And also in the short term I can't really see a lot of venues wanting to shell out money for entertainment when they need to keep their own asses and staff getting paid. Whatever of these venues do stay afloat are going to do so by changing their business model. $hits gonna be very weird for a while.

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This would be pretty fast, if they can do it.

[Green89]

Hard question here but I have to ask. Why is Massachusetts so high with coronavirus cases? We have a population of just under 7 million. Michigan has 10 million people and California has close to 40 million, yet we have more cases than them. Are we too stubborn and not following guidelines? I've actually seen a lot of people not practicing social distancing, but I suspect that's not too dissimilar to other states, especially not to the point that the cases would be this disproportionate. So, what is it? I know California has been much more stricter with their lockdowns. Not sure I know what else would make us so susceptible.

[SuperDeluxe]

Hard question here but I have to ask. Why is Massachusetts so high with coronavirus cases? We have a population of just under 7 million. Michigan has 10 million people and California has close to 40 million, yet we have more cases than them. Are we too stubborn and not following guidelines? I've actually seen a lot of people not practicing social distancing, but I suspect that's not too dissimilar to other states, especially not to the point that the cases would be this disproportionate. So, what is it? I know California has been much more stricter with their lockdowns. Not sure I know what else would make us so susceptible.

Because the vast majority of infections are asymptomatic, the more you test the more positive cases you find. Massachusetts has tested about 50% more people than Michigan, but both states have proportionally about the same number of positive cases.

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2020/coronavirus-testing-by-state-chart-of-new-cases/

California seems to be a whole different animal. Aside from what you mentioned (stricter lockdown guidelines), I assume they have been randomly testing people, not just people with symptoms and people who have been around infected people, which would explain the low percentage of positive cases vs. the total universe of tested people. However, I'm just speculating here.

[Green89]

Hard question here but I have to ask. Why is Massachusetts so high with coronavirus cases? We have a population of just under 7 million. Michigan has 10 million people and California has close to 40 million, yet we have more cases than them. Are we too stubborn and not following guidelines? I've actually seen a lot of people not practicing social distancing, but I suspect that's not too dissimilar to other states, especially not to the point that the cases would be this disproportionate. So, what is it? I know California has been much more stricter with their lockdowns. Not sure I know what else would make us so susceptible.

Because the vast majority of infections are asymptomatic, the more you test the more positive cases you find. Massachusetts has tested about 50% more people than Michigan, but both states have proportionally about the same number of positive cases.

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2020/coronavirus-testing-by-state-chart-of-new-cases/

California seems to be a whole different animal. Aside from what you mentioned (stricter lockdown guidelines), I assume they have been randomly testing people, not just people with symptoms and people who have been around infected people. However, I'm just speculating here.

Yes, there is actually one town in California with about 1,400 people and they are testing every single person, trying to get some good data. I'd love to know how that's going to happen. Not sure you want the elderly, vulnerable people, and children just being tested for no reason, as I'm sure it's mostly safe, but with so many medical professionals getting sick, I'm sure there's always a small chance of infection from just the exposure with the testing personnel and equipment, even when wearing PPE.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

FYI, truth18 is doing great things out in Philly for the homeless community. He and a friend raised money to install sinks around town so the less fortunate would have a place to wash their hands, all in an effort to stop the spread amongst their community. DM me if you want the article.

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FYI, truth18 is doing great things out in Philly for the homeless community. He and a friend raised money to install sinks around town so the less fortunate would have a place to wash their hands, all in an effort to stop the spread amongst their community. DM me if you want the article.

Wow, really? Good on them. That is great work.