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Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21

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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#601 » by Parliament10 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:23 am

Ernest wrote:You'd have to get a really top player to trade Smart. He's just too valuable to the team.

He's our 6th-Starter.

Kemba - Brown - Tatum
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#603 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:57 am

Hayward, #26 for Bjelica, S&T'd Bogdanovic ($52/3 years). Get a backup PG from draft or FA. Sign a vet min big that won't get in the way of Timelord.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#604 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:03 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Per Lowe Post, the sense Zach is getting around the league is that the Warriors are aiming big for that #2 if they're trading it. So the proposed Smart (into GSW TPE) + #14 (from fans including Bill Simmons) won't do it for them. Neither is #12, Bjelica, Holmes, and future 1st from Kings.

People are still considering the Wiggins contract as a negative contract.

Lowe doesn't think Wizards are trading Beal right now.

Also, keep an eye on Dipo to Bucks, per Lowe. Dipo's value is hard to peg.

The thing is the Warriors can aim as high as they want but it takes a team to reach their aim. Everyone knows the Warriors are not in love with anyone in this draft, in fact no team is in love with anyone in this draft. Offers will be low for the Warriors
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#605 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:06 pm

Ernest wrote:You'd have to get a really top player to trade Smart. He's just too valuable to the team.

There is no player in this draft that I would consider moving up by trading Marcus Smart. This draft is very weak on star power and filled with NBA role players. Not bad if you are looking for a bench role player
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#606 » by itrsteve » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:35 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Ernest wrote:You'd have to get a really top player to trade Smart. He's just too valuable to the team.

There is no player in this draft that I would consider moving up by trading Marcus Smart. This draft is very weak on star power and filled with NBA role players. Not bad if you are looking for a bench role player


How much do we really know about this draft? It's hard to tell anything about any of these young men considering most were robbed of playing any meaningful minutes.

This draft is ripe for hidden gems - and with the amount of first rounders Danny has provides a great opportunity to whiff numerous times.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#607 » by 100proof » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:38 pm

Triple7 wrote:https://www.radio.com/weei/sports/celtics/who-says-no-to-this-celtics-trade-with-nets?fbclid=IwAR1uaccG72ZUXjZfu7IduU6HZAuaOBSSXsf9U5GYHZ1S1ZXN0DLHdni_tiw


IMO its an overpay from the celtics.

Romeo was a lotto pick, #26, Timelord AND a lotto protected pick from a player coming off the bench on a team that did not have either of Irving or Durant on the court?>?????

No

I like Allen, I would accept Allen as the starter on the team. But not at that price. and never when Allen is in the last year of his contract.

Williams and filler and #30 for Allen. Tops

or if Kanter was agreeable to opt in, Kanter and 30 for allen.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#608 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:39 pm

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themoneyteam2 wrote:Harden isn’t going anywhere. Russ will be the one who is moved


And likely neither of them are moved...

Read on Twitter


I get it, but its a mistake. One year left for Harden after this year and no one will be paying up for that.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#609 » by Darth Celtic » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:02 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Hayward, #26 for Bjelica, S&T'd Bogdanovic ($52/3 years). Get a backup PG from draft or FA. Sign a vet min big that won't get in the way of Timelord.

if we accept a sign and trade, we are hard capped at lux tax level. Hard to do this year. Impossible to do with trade above.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#610 » by 100proof » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:04 pm

Celtics give : Hayward #30
get
Bamba, Ross, and Gordon,

Aaron Gordon gets shipped to a third team.

Gordon to Brooklyn for a sign and traded Harris, followed with Timelord and Edwards for Allen?
To GSW for TPE?
To Portland for?
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#611 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:18 pm

Darth Celtic wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Hayward, #26 for Bjelica, S&T'd Bogdanovic ($52/3 years). Get a backup PG from draft or FA. Sign a vet min big that won't get in the way of Timelord.

if we accept a sign and trade, we are hard capped at lux tax level. Hard to do this year. Impossible to do with trade above.

We'll be below the tax with that trade if Kanter walks. Let go of Green, Wanamaker, Waters. Include Semi in the Kings trade. Trade Poirier and cash to some team's TPE. We even have the non-tax MLE to use if need be.

EDIT: I have us at $137,669,829 with 14 guys -- Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Smart, Theis, Grant, Timelord, Langford, Bogdanovic, Bjelica, #14, #30, non-tax MLE guy, vet min guy. If we retain Edwards as 15th man, use only portion of the full MLE.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#612 » by CelticsPride18 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:38 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
Darth Celtic wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Hayward, #26 for Bjelica, S&T'd Bogdanovic ($52/3 years). Get a backup PG from draft or FA. Sign a vet min big that won't get in the way of Timelord.

if we accept a sign and trade, we are hard capped at lux tax level. Hard to do this year. Impossible to do with trade above.

We'll be below the tax with that trade if Kanter walks. Let go of Green, Wanamaker, Waters. Include Semi in the Kings trade. Trade Poirier and cash to some team's TPE. We even have the non-tax MLE to use if need be.

EDIT: I have us at $137,669,829 with 14 guys -- Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Smart, Theis, Grant, Timelord, Langford, Bogdanovic, Bjelica, #14, #30, non-tax MLE guy, vet min guy. If we retain Edwards as 15th man, use only portion of the full MLE.


Kings can’t add Bjelica in a sign and trade scenario.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#613 » by 100proof » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:47 pm

CelticsPride18 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
Darth Celtic wrote:if we accept a sign and trade, we are hard capped at lux tax level. Hard to do this year. Impossible to do with trade above.

We'll be below the tax with that trade if Kanter walks. Let go of Green, Wanamaker, Waters. Include Semi in the Kings trade. Trade Poirier and cash to some team's TPE. We even have the non-tax MLE to use if need be.

EDIT: I have us at $137,669,829 with 14 guys -- Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Smart, Theis, Grant, Timelord, Langford, Bogdanovic, Bjelica, #14, #30, non-tax MLE guy, vet min guy. If we retain Edwards as 15th man, use only portion of the full MLE.


Kings can’t add Bjelica in a sign and trade scenario.



Can be done in a 2 deal weird thing.

Hayward for Sign and traded Bogdanovic
#26, little Salary for Bjelica
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#614 » by ddb » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:13 pm

I bet Hayward has more value around the league right now over Dipo. Just saying. Hayward in 52 games or whatever this past season proved to be back and very effective for the Celtics averaging 17.5/6.7/4.1 on solid shooting splits.....AS THE 4TH OPTION! Dipo hasn't proven that he's healthy yet and he's already asking to be traded. Not a good look. Also, Hayward has been a good player for a longer period of time VS Dipo who really only had 2 good seasons prior to the injury.
Another thing to consider is it's far more likely that Hayward will sign a new contract after next season and far less money then what Dipo is going to want, so even though you're paying Hayward more this upcoming season, beyond that he will come cheaper.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#615 » by RickyDizzle » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:21 pm

If the Bulls are faced with a PG or Wiseman at 4... Do they take Wiseman and could we get Wendell Carter Jr for 14 and Semi?
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#616 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:36 pm

Read on Twitter

You see this is why I'd like to just keep it simple. Ask Hayward to opt out and just sign a cheap-ass 3-year contract to stay on a contender lol.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#617 » by BK_2020 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:43 pm

People need to stop overrating Smart. Perimeter defense hits diminished returns quickly, and Smart offers little else other than inconsistent offense. He's not indispensable and he's not going to bring back a star.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#618 » by Feed Your Head » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:58 pm

BK_2020 wrote:People need to stop overrating Smart. Perimeter defense hits diminished returns quickly, and Smart offers little else other than inconsistent offense. He's not indispensable and he's not going to bring back a star.


Offers little else? His team defense is his best attribute, and that’s not going to change anytime soon. Offensively he’s their best playmaker, and a good enough shooter.

This is you underrating Smart, not other people overrating him.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#619 » by BK_2020 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:03 pm

Smart is not the Celtics best playmaker what are you smoking. He constantly misses good reads and throws inaccurate passes. Sure he makes a flashy pass once every other game, but he more than makes up for that by turning the ball over, making bad decisions (usually for individual hero ball).
Smart lacks the court vision and skills to be an effective playmaker that's why his impact is hard capped.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21 

Post#620 » by Feed Your Head » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:12 pm

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