Welcome to Virtual Boston, Yam Madar!

[Hal14]

Count me among the unimpressed. Handle doesn't look very tight. Not sure what his role is going to be in the halfcourt. Needs to be a real plus offensively with his size and I'm not sure where that comes from. Pushes the ball well in transition but that doesn't seem like a role he'd fill with the Celtics/in the NBA, he's got to be the guy sprinting to the wing to take a 3.

His handle could use some improvement, but IMO it's still pretty good. Auburn had a couple of really scrappy guards who were picking him up full court and pressuring him pretty hard (KD Johnson and Zep Jasper). Jasper is their best perimeter defender and Johnson is a good defender too who was really pressuring him - yet Madar was able to bring the ball up against those guys and get the team into their offense without turning it over.

What's his role on offense? The point guard. Bring the ball up, get the team into their offense. Drive and kick. Hit open 3's. Madar also shows some nice flashes of cutting to the basket in this game vs Auburn - after cutting and catching the ball in traffic, he's able to finish at the rim, despite there being 2 much bigger defenders there challenging his shot.

Tighten up the handle a little bit. Speed up the release on his shot. Get bigger/stronger physically. Those are his main areas where he could improve. If he can improve in at least 1 or 2 of those areas, he could be a solid backup PG in the NBA who can push the pace, find the open man, play decent defense, play with high energy and hit some shots. We'll see.. no one is saying he's gonna be an all-star.

[sam_I_am]

Um, ok. Deni was a top 10 pick and Madar was pretty much just as good as Deni was in this game. How is that not impressive. These are their stat lines:

Madar: 24 pts, 7 rebs, 7 assists
Deni: 25 pts, 7 rebs, 6 assists

Deni also fouled out with like 3 mins left and Israel up by 7. If Madar and everyone else on Israel was such trash (as you imply) and if Deni is so much better than his Israeli teammates (as you imply) then why did Israel increase their lead after Deni fouled out? Israel won by 9.

And what does Madar being 21 have to do with it? Some of Auburn's players are older than him.


It's still very early, draft is very far away - too soon to tell. But as of now, I'd say Yohan Traore from Auburn is likely a 1st round pick and Allen Flanigan has a shot at 2nd round. 1 or 2 others who could be UDFA.

That doesn't even matter that much, though. UNC went to the NCAA title game last year and didn't have anyone drafted. UNC was a better team than Duke (beat Duke twice, including in the final four) even though Duke had 5 dudes get drafted.

4/5 Duke players drafted were under 20. Auburn lost its 2 best players from last year so they still have a long way to go to be a top 20 college team. I think its great that Madar played well but game was surprisingly competitive. Summer league and G league teams would all be expected to easily handle the best college teams. Not sure how Madar skipping summer league to play against this type of competition gets him ready to be a Celtic to be honest.

Exactly why number of players who got drafted does not necessarily make them a better college team.

Auburn lost their 2 best players yes, but they return all of their other rotation players from a team that was ranked no. 1 in the country at one point. Plus they added 2 good freshmen (1 of them might be the top freshman in the SEC) and a good transfer player.

This game vs Auburn is not why Madar missed summer league for us. Summer league ended awhile ago. The FIBA world cup qualifiers is the event he played in, instead of summer league.

I get wanting to play for your country. However, his early exit last year and his failure to show this year don’t seem to bother the Celtics even a little bit. Do they view him as an asset that is still a few years away….or do they not really view him as asset? His numbers yesterday were pretty great so I hope it is the former. Physically, he doesn’t seem cut out for NBA but maybe he can make up for that with quickness.

[Bleeding Green]

4/5 Duke players drafted were under 20. Auburn lost its 2 best players from last year so they still have a long way to go to be a top 20 college team. I think its great that Madar played well but game was surprisingly competitive. Summer league and G league teams would all be expected to easily handle the best college teams. Not sure how Madar skipping summer league to play against this type of competition gets him ready to be a Celtic to be honest.

Exactly why number of players who got drafted does not necessarily make them a better college team.

Auburn lost their 2 best players yes, but they return all of their other rotation players from a team that was ranked no. 1 in the country at one point. Plus they added 2 good freshmen (1 of them might be the top freshman in the SEC) and a good transfer player.

This game vs Auburn is not why Madar missed summer league for us. Summer league ended awhile ago. The FIBA world cup qualifiers is the event he played in, instead of summer league.

I get wanting to play for your country. However, his early exit last year and his failure to show this year don’t seem to bother the Celtics even a little bit. Do they view him as an asset that is still a few years away….or do they not really view him as asset? His numbers yesterday were pretty great so I hope it is the former. Physically, he doesn’t seem cut out for NBA but maybe he can make up for that with quickness.

They probably drafted him knowing they would only sign him on the day his draft rights expired or if he improved beyond reasonable expectations. And so far, that's still all in the cards. From the day he was drafted until as I type each additional letter of this post, there has been no change in the plan.

I wanted to see him in Summer League, but from his perspective, and likely the perspective of the Celtics, he would be playing in a more structured environment in the Euroleague anyway, so why bother?

[jfs1000d]

4/5 Duke players drafted were under 20. Auburn lost its 2 best players from last year so they still have a long way to go to be a top 20 college team. I think its great that Madar played well but game was surprisingly competitive. Summer league and G league teams would all be expected to easily handle the best college teams. Not sure how Madar skipping summer league to play against this type of competition gets him ready to be a Celtic to be honest.

Exactly why number of players who got drafted does not necessarily make them a better college team.

Auburn lost their 2 best players yes, but they return all of their other rotation players from a team that was ranked no. 1 in the country at one point. Plus they added 2 good freshmen (1 of them might be the top freshman in the SEC) and a good transfer player.

This game vs Auburn is not why Madar missed summer league for us. Summer league ended awhile ago. The FIBA world cup qualifiers is the event he played in, instead of summer league.

I get wanting to play for your country. However, his early exit last year and his failure to show this year don’t seem to bother the Celtics even a little bit. Do they view him as an asset that is still a few years away….or do they not really view him as asset? His numbers yesterday were pretty great so I hope it is the former. Physically, he doesn’t seem cut out for NBA but maybe he can make up for that with quickness.

This is pro basketball. Mader has to weigh lifestyle, earning potential, improving his game vs. coming to nba. I am sure he wants to play in nba, but he has to show he. Am be a rotation player.


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[BostonCouchGM]

Yam has no chance to play in the NBA until he packs on muscle and he hasn't since being drafted so it's kinda pointless wasting energy talking about him. He's not relevant. He's an undersized combo guard with below average athleticism. He's well behind Begarin and Davison in our plans I'd suspect.

[Garbanzo]

Why are you guys so intrigued about a guy who’s never going to play for us ? lol

Because he fits here better than Pritchard, and there is a small possibility we will see him play for Boston.
As someone who have watched him a lot, even live a few times, he really has potential to be a good NBA player.

Some players just have "it".
Yam was as good as Deni Avdija when Israel under under 20 won the first place in Europe under 20 tournament.
But as Avdija was the "do it all" type of guy, the leader was Madar.

Now, I know it is not a good indicator, as many great European prospects don't make it in the NBA..
But Yam Madar has "it". He was best when the lights were the brightest.

He really reminds me of Goran Dragic.
Not because they have similar style of play.. but the fact they are going to be as smart as anybody on the court and find a way to outplay you.

Wait what? Pritchard is so much better than him it’s not even funny lol.

You see Pritchard as the now 10th man and essentially pushed out of the playoff rotation if the roster is healthy and Yam at best case would be the water boy on this team

Never said Madar is better. Overall I think Pritchard is the better player.
But I also think Madar is a better fit as a third stringer.
He is also 3 years younger..

[Parliament10]

Read on Twitter

[Garbanzo]

Yam Madar posted:
18 points, 4 assists VS Georgia
10 points VS Georgia
17 points VS Romania (leading scorer)

Came from the bench in all games

[poopship]

18/4 off the bench against Georgia. It's odd to be born again when you're still young and alive, Manu Ginobili cheating

[Justin33]

Watch on YouTube

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Watch on YouTube

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He’s been playing well there. Plus those Israeli announcers lol that kills me.

[Justin33]

Watch on YouTube

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He’s been playing well there. Plus those Israeli announcers lol that kills me.

He's turned himself into a hell of a shooter

[BostonCouchGM]

18/4 off the bench against Georgia. It's odd to be born again when you're still young and alive, Manu Ginobili cheating

none of his game will translate to the NBA. I'm not sure why people are so excited about him. He's really an undersized SG with well below athleticism. Manu was 6'6". THAT is why his craftiness was made possible. I gotta hand it to our fans that we show more excitement over Madar than most boards on realgm do about their best players though

[Bleeding Green]

I don't know why people project 20-21 year olds to mature physically, but they keep doing it. Gotta hand it to them.

[Hal14]

I don't know why people project 20-21 year olds to mature physically, but they keep doing it. Gotta hand it to them.

have you seen what Tatum looked like at 20 compared to today? how about steph curry? Giannis?

[Smart2Nesmith43]

I don't know why people project 20-21 year olds to mature physically, but they keep doing it. Gotta hand it to them.

have you seen what Tatum looked like at 20 compared to today? how about steph curry? Giannis?

I think that's the point that Bleeding Green was trying to make. That there's no way to know how the body of 20 years old is going to look like after a few summers in the gym. Giannis is a good example, he came into the league pretty thin but now he just plows through every NBA athlete like they aren't even there.

For Madar, his size is a hindrance at the NBA level but it's certainly not a death knell. There's plenty of 6'3 guys playing across the league. Some of them like Avery Bradley have had long NBA careers with far worse playmaking skills. Heck, Cory Joseph is going into his 13th year and I don't think he is bigger, faster or more athletic than Madar. I don't know why BostonCouchGM thinks that Ginobili is the bar against which second round picks must be measured to determine if their career are a success. Yeah, Madar isn't going to have Manu's career but that doesn't mean he can't become a useful player.

Madar will sink or swim based on his skills not his size.

[Bleeding Green]

I don't know why people project 20-21 year olds to mature physically, but they keep doing it. Gotta hand it to them.

have you seen what Tatum looked like at 20 compared to today? how about steph curry? Giannis?

Yeah I am mocking someone who thinks a 20 year old won't mature physically.

[return2glory]

Yam looks like he is playing well.

Seems like he drafted him 5 years ago. He is still only 21.

[Garbanzo]

18/4 off the bench against Georgia. It's odd to be born again when you're still young and alive, Manu Ginobili cheating

none of his game will translate to the NBA. I'm not sure why people are so excited about him. He's really an undersized SG with well below athleticism. Manu was 6'6". THAT is why his craftiness was made possible. I gotta hand it to our fans that we show more excitement over Madar than most boards on realgm do about their best players though

You think he is an undersized sg based on what, exactly?
He never played sg in his life. Played as the primary ball handler for Hapoel tlv and Partizan..

[poopship]

18/4 off the bench against Georgia. It's odd to be born again when you're still young and alive, Manu Ginobili cheating

none of his game will translate to the NBA. I'm not sure why people are so excited about him. He's really an undersized SG with well below athleticism. Manu was 6'6". THAT is why his craftiness was made possible. I gotta hand it to our fans that we show more excitement over Madar than most boards on realgm do about their best players though

I was absolutely being sarcastic. And tbh we have what, three to four real Yamsters on realgm? It's nothing to get worked up over.