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Scoonie wrote:Aaron Nesmith has very little market value, so a 2nd rounder might be the best we can do for him. If they could get an early 2nd round pick to select somebody like Christian Koloko, I would jump on it.
CelticFaninLBC wrote:Is a rumor of Nesmith getting dealt for a 2nd rounder.
According to an anonymous GM who spoke with Sean Deveney of Heavy.com, the Celtics could use Aaron Nesmith as a chip to trade into the 2022 NBA Draft.
“They gave away their pick last year, they don’t have a pick this year and they’re looking at the luxury tax, so, yeah, they’d like to have a chance to get back into the draft if they can, get guys contributing on rookie contracts,” the GM revealed. “But the only chip they have for that is (Aaron) Nesmith and he is not going to get you a first-rounder at this point. So, they’ll look at prospects but realistically they’re going to look at second-rounders. They could try to buy a pick there but there’s no real path into the first round for them.”
https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/aaron-nesmith-nba-draft-trade-rumors/
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:Is a rumor of Nesmith getting dealt for a 2nd rounder.
According to an anonymous GM who spoke with Sean Deveney of Heavy.com, the Celtics could use Aaron Nesmith as a chip to trade into the 2022 NBA Draft.
“They gave away their pick last year, they don’t have a pick this year and they’re looking at the luxury tax, so, yeah, they’d like to have a chance to get back into the draft if they can, get guys contributing on rookie contracts,” the GM revealed. “But the only chip they have for that is (Aaron) Nesmith and he is not going to get you a first-rounder at this point. So, they’ll look at prospects but realistically they’re going to look at second-rounders. They could try to buy a pick there but there’s no real path into the first round for them.”
https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/aaron-nesmith-nba-draft-trade-rumors/
There were zero rumors about a potential White trade. Nobody saw the Theis reunion coming. I can't recall any journalists calling the Hernangomez/Forbes/Dozier/Bol trade in advance. Literally the only move that was somewhat telegraphed, the Walker/Horford swap it was like the only logical destination to dump Kemba's contract so it didn't require sources just a decent understanding of the salary cap. This Celtics front office doesn't leak stuff. I wouldn't put too much stock in this rumor. Sounds more like a rival executive trying to tank Nesmith value to acquire him on the cheap then how Boston feels about him.
A second rounder is awful value for Aaron. Yeah you probably can't get a first round pick for him right now but then the return is so low you might just as well keep him and see if he can break out of his three point shooting slump. It's not like his salary is huge.
Scoonie wrote:Aaron Nesmith has very little market value, so a 2nd rounder might be the best we can do for him. If they could get an early 2nd round pick to select somebody like Christian Koloko, I would jump on it.
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:Is a rumor of Nesmith getting dealt for a 2nd rounder.
According to an anonymous GM who spoke with Sean Deveney of Heavy.com, the Celtics could use Aaron Nesmith as a chip to trade into the 2022 NBA Draft.
“They gave away their pick last year, they don’t have a pick this year and they’re looking at the luxury tax, so, yeah, they’d like to have a chance to get back into the draft if they can, get guys contributing on rookie contracts,” the GM revealed. “But the only chip they have for that is (Aaron) Nesmith and he is not going to get you a first-rounder at this point. So, they’ll look at prospects but realistically they’re going to look at second-rounders. They could try to buy a pick there but there’s no real path into the first round for them.”
https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/aaron-nesmith-nba-draft-trade-rumors/
There were zero rumors about a potential White trade. Nobody saw the Theis reunion coming. I can't recall any journalists calling the Hernangomez/Forbes/Dozier/Bol trade in advance. Literally the only move that was somewhat telegraphed, the Walker/Horford swap it was like the only logical destination to dump Kemba's contract so it didn't require sources just a decent understanding of the salary cap. This Celtics front office doesn't leak stuff. I wouldn't put too much stock in this rumor. Sounds more like a rival executive trying to tank Nesmith value to acquire him on the cheap then how Boston feels about him.
A second rounder is awful value for Aaron. Yeah you probably can't get a first round pick for him right now but then the return is so low you might just as well keep him and see if he can break out of his three point shooting slump. It's not like his salary is huge.
CelticFaninLBC wrote:Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:Is a rumor of Nesmith getting dealt for a 2nd rounder.
According to an anonymous GM who spoke with Sean Deveney of Heavy.com, the Celtics could use Aaron Nesmith as a chip to trade into the 2022 NBA Draft.
“They gave away their pick last year, they don’t have a pick this year and they’re looking at the luxury tax, so, yeah, they’d like to have a chance to get back into the draft if they can, get guys contributing on rookie contracts,” the GM revealed. “But the only chip they have for that is (Aaron) Nesmith and he is not going to get you a first-rounder at this point. So, they’ll look at prospects but realistically they’re going to look at second-rounders. They could try to buy a pick there but there’s no real path into the first round for them.”
https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/aaron-nesmith-nba-draft-trade-rumors/
There were zero rumors about a potential White trade. Nobody saw the Theis reunion coming. I can't recall any journalists calling the Hernangomez/Forbes/Dozier/Bol trade in advance. Literally the only move that was somewhat telegraphed, the Walker/Horford swap it was like the only logical destination to dump Kemba's contract so it didn't require sources just a decent understanding of the salary cap. This Celtics front office doesn't leak stuff. I wouldn't put too much stock in this rumor. Sounds more like a rival executive trying to tank Nesmith value to acquire him on the cheap then how Boston feels about him.
A second rounder is awful value for Aaron. Yeah you probably can't get a first round pick for him right now but then the return is so low you might just as well keep him and see if he can break out of his three point shooting slump. It's not like his salary is huge.
This team will likely be a luxury tax team next year. Ownership may want to cut any deadweight to lessen expenses.
Hal14 wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:There were zero rumors about a potential White trade. Nobody saw the Theis reunion coming. I can't recall any journalists calling the Hernangomez/Forbes/Dozier/Bol trade in advance. Literally the only move that was somewhat telegraphed, the Walker/Horford swap it was like the only logical destination to dump Kemba's contract so it didn't require sources just a decent understanding of the salary cap. This Celtics front office doesn't leak stuff. I wouldn't put too much stock in this rumor. Sounds more like a rival executive trying to tank Nesmith value to acquire him on the cheap then how Boston feels about him.
A second rounder is awful value for Aaron. Yeah you probably can't get a first round pick for him right now but then the return is so low you might just as well keep him and see if he can break out of his three point shooting slump. It's not like his salary is huge.
This team will likely be a luxury tax team next year. Ownership may want to cut any deadweight to lessen expenses.
exactly. "cut deadweight to lessen expenses" in other words, if you're not a legit rotation piece and you're making more $ than the rookie minimum or veterans minimum, you're deadweight. Nesmith falls into that bucket. He's due to make $3.8 mil next season.
The rookie minimum next season is only $1 mil. So we save $ by getting a 2nd round pick for him. Question is, do you think Nesmith next season gives us more production on the court than a 2nd round pick? Probably (not a sure thing, though). But is Nesmith next season going to be THAT much better than the 2nd round pick to justify paying him $2.8 mil more? Probably not..
This is why we traded Langford..
batabatuta wrote:I'm still hoping they get Kai Sotto even as undrafted.
Dogen wrote:Celtics win despite Smart having -1 points for the game.
Dogen wrote:Celtics win despite Smart having -1 points for the game.
Scoonie wrote:When the NBA announced the Early Entry Candidate list for the 2022 NBA Draft, there were 247 college players on the list. Under NCAA rules, players had until June 1 to withdraw from the draft and retain college eligibility.
Well over 100 players withdrew from the draft and will return to school. This list included likely first round pick Terquavion Smith. In addition, college standouts Max Abmas, Tyler Burton, Baylor Scheierman and Drew Timme all returned to play their senior seasons.
The NBA's withdrawal deadline is June 13 at 5:00 PM ET. The 2022 NBA Draft is June 23.
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/267218/Over-100-NCAA-Players-Withdraw-from-2022-NBA-Draft
return2glory wrote:Marcus Bingham Jr Michigan State – HT: 7-0 – WT: 23. He is a solid center that could be there when we pick.
Hal14 wrote:I don't think i would take him with our 2nd round pick but Darius Days could definitely be a good target as an UDFA.
Here's an interview with him: https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/2022-nba-draft-qa-lsus-darius-days-will-bring-110-to-an-nba-franchise
"I think I can definitely be a floor-spacer; I think thats what a lot of teams like about me. I bring versatility on the defensive end, guarding 3-through-5. I’m going to be able to shoot the three-ball at a consistent rate. I bring 110% every night; I play hard for my guys, sacrificing my body for the team. I do what I’m supposed to do, on and off the court."
"I’m someone who will give 110% the whole game, you know, play hard. I like to rebound out of area, shoot the three-ball, and I like to mix it up with the trees and bang down low. I think I’m a great team player, leading by example, helping get people in the right spots and communicate on defense, I’m very vocal."
Just based off those quotes, it sounds like he could be a good fit.
Updated list of who the celtics have brought in for a pre draft workout:
Keon Ellis - Wing - Alabama
Kevin McCullar Jr - Wing - Texas Tech
Gabe Brown - Wing - Michigan St
Ron Harper Jr - Wing - Rutgers
Lucas Williamson - Wing - Loyola Chicago
Jared Rhoden - Wing - Seton Hall
Julian Champagnie - Wing - St John's
Trevion Williams - C - Purdue
Isaiah Wong - SG - Miami
Michael Foster - PF - G League Ignite
Teddy Allen - Wing - New Mexico St
Peter Kiss - Wing - Bryant
Collin Gillespie - Guard - Villanova
Darius Days - PF - LSU
*Wong and McCullar have withdrawn from the draft and will go back to college. The rest of these guys are realistic targets, either with our 2nd round pick or as an UDFA..
The draft combine gives a nice new chunk of information to work with: official measurements are most interesting and the combine scrimmages have been surprisingly predictive, with Quentin Grimes and Bones Hyland shining last season and being two of the most productive rookies taken outside of the lottery.
This year there were not any prospects who stood out as clearly, but let’s run through the guys who made favorable impressions:
Darius Days
Days received a combine invite after a monster G League camp where he measured 6’7 with 7’1 wingspan and in 17.5 mins he averaged 14 pts, 5 rebs, 0.5 ast, 0.5 tov, 2.5 stls on 5/9 2P 5/14 3P 3/5 FT.
Then in the combine he continued to play effectively averaging 22.5 mins, 13 pts, 6 rebs, 1 ast, 0 tovs, 1 stl on 4/7 3P 5/15 3P 3/4 FT.
Combine both samples and you get an average of 20 mins, 13.5 pts, 5.5 rebs, 0.8 ast, 0.3 tov, 1.8 stl and a whopping 7.3 3PA per game.
It’s difficult to see how such a prototypical 3 + D wing can go undrafted. He is getting off a huge volume of 3PA, not taking bad shots, not turning it over, and is capable of rebounding and defending the perimeter.
Days is on the older side as he turns 23 before next season in October, and he is only a decent but non-elite shooter. But what more do you want in round 2 than a pull at a solid 3 + D wing like him? It seems crazy that he is currently slated to go undrafted, and somewhat obviously deserves to be picked.
Dogen wrote:Celtics win despite Smart having -1 points for the game.
return2glory wrote:Marcus Bingham Jr Michigan State – HT: 7-0 – WT: 23. He is a solid center that could be there when we pick.