Welcome Derrick White

[TheMartian]

Here’s hoping the past 2 games of inspired play become the norm for Derrick. He’s really a crucial cog to the title hopes of this team.

[zoyathedestroya]

His best game in green so far.

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Since getting a haircut (24-game span), White is averaging 13.5/3.9/4.3/0.5/1.2 on 49/40/85 splits in 30 mpg. Just 1.1 turnovers per game.

[Curmudgeon]

Most underrated player in the NBA. He may push Smart back into the 6th man role.

[SuperDeluxe]

did you guys see what a game White had against the tanking Hornets? Simply incredible. This brought his scoring average to 11.3 ppg which is even higher than last season's 11 ppg! He was so good last season we didn't feel the need to trade a 2023 1st and Nesmith for an upgrade in Brogdon...oh wait.

Not to be an a-hole, but the best way to assess a player's contribution is to actually watch games. Stats can be cool though, but they don't replace the real thing.

[Feed Your Head]

Over his last 15 games, he’s averaging 16/4/4 on a 64% TS, while being the best defensive guard in the league. He never turns the ball over, he makes quick decision, he gets into the paint. Advanced stats LOVE him, he’s second on the team in EPM, RAPTOR, and LEBRON, third in DPM and RPM. He has the second best net rating on the team, third best on/off behind Tatum and Rob.

He’s a guy who can fit into any role, and clearly can score more when needed. It was an A+ trade by Brad.

[BostonCouchGM]

did you guys see what a game White had against the tanking Hornets? Simply incredible. This brought his scoring average to 11.3 ppg which is even higher than last season's 11 ppg! He was so good last season we didn't feel the need to trade a 2023 1st and Nesmith for an upgrade in Brogdon...oh wait.

Not to be an a-hole, but the best way to assess a player's contribution is to actually watch games. Stats can be cool though, but they don't replace the thing.

Watch every one and he was so underwhelming last season (shooting his customary 31% from three) that the Celtics felt they needed an upgrade over him. We went into the tax and it cost a promising former #1 in Nesmith (whose stats aren’t all that far from White’s this season) and a 1st. I love the Brogdon pick up but you’d have to be the biggest fanboy apologist not to admit that had White played better that move wouldn’t have needed to be made. “Who cares about late 1st rounders???? It’s a cRapShooT!” I do because that’s where guys like Bane, Siakam, Claxton, Keldon Johnson can be had.

Again, if we don’t win a championship and Jaylen leaves us for nothing this will come back to haunt us. Since people love to rejoice after good games I guess to counterbalance that I’ll start pointing out his bad ones. Maybe point out the multiple times per game ge gets blown by on defense. Should be fun.

[BostonCouchGM]

Over his last 15 games, he’s averaging 16/4/4 on a 64% TS, while being the best defensive guard in the league. He never turns the ball over, he makes quick decision, he gets into the paint. Advanced stats LOVE him, he’s second on the team in EPM, RAPTOR, and LEBRON, third in DPM and RPM. He has the second best net rating on the team, third best on/off behind Tatum and Rob.

He’s a guy who can fit into any role, and clearly can score more when needed. It was an A+ trade by Brad.

A+? C’mon. He’s certainly playing better this season and helping us weather the storm of losing Smart but you’re forgetting about last season. He was terrible in the playoffs and a major reason why we didn’t win a championship. His awful play cost us games in multiple series forcing long series and eventually Tatum being washed by the time the Finals came around. His play was bad enough they felt they needed Brogdon. Last season HAS to be part of evaluating the trade. But I guess if you’re only judging him on this great run the past couple of weeks then yeah…A. And true evaluation won’t be possible until we feel the ramifications of trading away back to back 1st rounders, whether those young players traded amount to anything and what happens to the pick swap. It COULD be an A if he’s an integral part of us winning a championship. Anything less than that COULD make it disastrous

[SuperDeluxe]

did you guys see what a game White had against the tanking Hornets? Simply incredible. This brought his scoring average to 11.3 ppg which is even higher than last season's 11 ppg! He was so good last season we didn't feel the need to trade a 2023 1st and Nesmith for an upgrade in Brogdon...oh wait.

Not to be an a-hole, but the best way to assess a player's contribution is to actually watch games. Stats can be cool though, but they don't replace the thing.

Watch every one and he was so underwhelming last season (shooting his customary 31% from three) that the Celtics felt they needed an upgrade over him. We went into the tax and it cost a promising former #1 in Nesmith (whose stats aren’t all that far from White’s this season) and a 1st. I love the Brogdon pick up but you’d have to be the biggest fanboy apologist not to admit that had White played better that move wouldn’t have needed to be made. “Who cares about late 1st rounders???? It’s a cRapShooT!” I do because that’s where guys like Bane, Siakam, Claxton, Keldon Johnson can be had.

Again, if we don’t win a championship and Jaylen leaves us for nothing this will come back to haunt us. Since people love to rejoice after good games I guess to counterbalance that I’ll start pointing out his bad ones. Maybe point out the multiple times per game ge gets blown by on defense. Should be fun.

Good stuff. By pointing out some of the bad stuff you'll counterbalance your constant positive discourse about the team.

[themoneyteam2]

did you guys see what a game White had against the tanking Hornets? Simply incredible. This brought his scoring average to 11.3 ppg which is even higher than last season's 11 ppg! He was so good last season we didn't feel the need to trade a 2023 1st and Nesmith for an upgrade in Brogdon...oh wait.

They didn’t make the decision to trade for Brogdon because of the performance of White last year. If that were true, wouldn’t White’s role on the team shrink because of Brogdon now in the mix? Oh wait, it didn’t…

You’re somehow worse at this than I thought lol.

[BostonCouchGM]

Not to be an a-hole, but the best way to assess a player's contribution is to actually watch games. Stats can be cool though, but they don't replace the thing.

Watch every one and he was so underwhelming last season (shooting his customary 31% from three) that the Celtics felt they needed an upgrade over him. We went into the tax and it cost a promising former #1 in Nesmith (whose stats aren’t all that far from White’s this season) and a 1st. I love the Brogdon pick up but you’d have to be the biggest fanboy apologist not to admit that had White played better that move wouldn’t have needed to be made. “Who cares about late 1st rounders???? It’s a cRapShooT!” I do because that’s where guys like Bane, Siakam, Claxton, Keldon Johnson can be had.

Again, if we don’t win a championship and Jaylen leaves us for nothing this will come back to haunt us. Since people love to rejoice after good games I guess to counterbalance that I’ll start pointing out his bad ones. Maybe point out the multiple times per game ge gets blown by on defense. Should be fun.

Good stuff. By pointing out some of the bad stuff you'll counterbalance your constant positive discourse about the team.

cute! Clever even.

[SuperDeluxe]

Watch every one and he was so underwhelming last season (shooting his customary 31% from three) that the Celtics felt they needed an upgrade over him. We went into the tax and it cost a promising former #1 in Nesmith (whose stats aren’t all that far from White’s this season) and a 1st. I love the Brogdon pick up but you’d have to be the biggest fanboy apologist not to admit that had White played better that move wouldn’t have needed to be made. “Who cares about late 1st rounders???? It’s a cRapShooT!” I do because that’s where guys like Bane, Siakam, Claxton, Keldon Johnson can be had.

Again, if we don’t win a championship and Jaylen leaves us for nothing this will come back to haunt us. Since people love to rejoice after good games I guess to counterbalance that I’ll start pointing out his bad ones. Maybe point out the multiple times per game ge gets blown by on defense. Should be fun.

Good stuff. By pointing out some of the bad stuff you'll counterbalance your constant positive discourse about the team.

cute! Clever even.

Did it make you smile for a second? I'm sorry if that made you uncomfortable.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Watch every one and he was so underwhelming last season (shooting his customary 31% from three)

You do realise that's the only season he has shot below 34% from three and that he is a 35% career shooter from distance right ?

We went into the tax and it cost a promising former #1 in Nesmith (whose stats aren’t all that far from White’s this season) and a 1st.

Except the Celtics didn't go into the tax to get White. While Nesmith is getting stats that might look similar he's also much worse at basketball so there is that to consider as well.

His awful play cost us games in multiple series forcing long series and eventually Tatum being washed by the time the Finals came around.

You should have no problem giving us a list of those games then. What I remember is the Nets series being a sweep so it can't be that one and I recall the Bucks series shifting Boston's way once the Celtics went smaller and played White a lot more so it can't be that one either. You can complain about his performance in the Finals, that's fair, he wasn't good beyond game 1 (though he was hardly the only one). What you can't complain about is his role in getting the Celtics there, they don't sniff the Finals without him.

And true evaluation won’t be possible until we feel the ramifications of trading away back to back 1st rounders, whether those young players traded amount to anything and what happens to the pick swap

For perspective the best rookie selected after the pick the Celtics sent in the White trade is Andrew Nembhard and he's a 23 years old averaging 8 points per game on below average efficiency. Even if the Celtics could have handpicked the best guy available with the benefit of hindsight, they still wouldn't have gotten a player anywhere near White's level.

Again, if we don’t win a championship and Jaylen leaves us for nothing this will come back to haunt us. Since people love to rejoice after good games I guess to counterbalance that I’ll start pointing out his bad ones. Maybe point out the multiple times per game ge gets blown by on defense. Should be fun.

If we are just going to throw hypotheticals around maybe the reason Jaylen stays is because he prefers playing with White than a 2027 pick swap.

[31to6]

Monthly reminder that Derrick White is good at basketball even when his three point shot isn’t falling

[Yinwest]

Basketball nerds love player like Derrick White, high IQ, never really force the issue, When he is handling the ball, he just has that calming presence.

[Floody100]

Death, taxes & BostonCouchGM never admitting he may have been wrong.
3 things that are certain in life.

[exculpatory]

Death, taxes & BostonCouchGM never admitting he may have been wrong.
3 things that are certain in life.

And cataracts.

And decreasing testosterone with every decade a man lives.

[BostonCouchGM]

Watch every one and he was so underwhelming last season (shooting his customary 31% from three)

You do realise that's the only season he has shot below 34% from three and that he is a 35% career shooter from distance right ?

We went into the tax and it cost a promising former #1 in Nesmith (whose stats aren’t all that far from White’s this season) and a 1st.

Except the Celtics didn't go into the tax to get White. While Nesmith is getting stats that might look similar he's also much worse at basketball so there is that to consider as well.

His awful play cost us games in multiple series forcing long series and eventually Tatum being washed by the time the Finals came around.

You should have no problem giving us a list of those games then. What I remember is the Nets series being a sweep so it can't be that one and I recall the Bucks series shifting Boston's way once the Celtics went smaller and played White a lot more so it can't be that one either. You can complain about his performance in the Finals, that's fair, he wasn't good beyond game 1 (though he was hardly the only one). What you can't complain about is his role in getting the Celtics there, they don't sniff the Finals without him.

And true evaluation won’t be possible until we feel the ramifications of trading away back to back 1st rounders, whether those young players traded amount to anything and what happens to the pick swap

For perspective the best rookie selected after the pick the Celtics sent in the White trade is Andrew Nembhard and he's a 23 years old averaging 8 points per game on below average efficiency. Even if the Celtics could have handpicked the best guy available with the benefit of hindsight, they still wouldn't have gotten a player anywhere near White's level.

Again, if we don’t win a championship and Jaylen leaves us for nothing this will come back to haunt us. Since people love to rejoice after good games I guess to counterbalance that I’ll start pointing out his bad ones. Maybe point out the multiple times per game ge gets blown by on defense. Should be fun.

If we are just going to throw hypotheticals around maybe the reason Jaylen stays is because he prefers playing with White than a 2027 pick swap.

a) two years as a starter he's shot .338 and .312 from three

b) they went into the tax getting Brogdon which they wouldn't have felt the need to do if White was the answer. And White's salary contributes as well since we traded away cheaper assets to get him.

c) In the three losses in Games 3, 4, 5 to the Warriors, White shot a combined 5-21. In the game 2 close loss to MIA he had a whopping zero points. We won in the playoffs because opponents had major injuries and Tatum carried us. lol imagine thinking we got there because of Derrick White who put up 11-3-4 shooting 31% from three with average defense. Good Lord smh.

Derricks White in the playoffs:

vs BK: 5-5-2 and .091% from three

vs MIL: 8-4-3 and 31% from three

vs. MIA: 10-3-4 and 33% from three

vs. GSW: 10-1-2 and shot 40% from three (distorted by a 5-8 game 1 win. The rest of the series he was 5-17)

d) It's WAY too early to determine how costly trading away Nesmith, the 2022 1st round pick and the later swap could be. Many of the players drafted haven't even been given an opportunity to play much. It'll take time for the dust to settle. And who knows who else we may have been able to obtain with that package. Surely we wouldn't have had much trouble finding someone to duplicate White's stellar 11-3-4 shooting 31% from three with average defense would we?

e) Derrick White isn't under contract in 2025/26 so Jaylen will be looking at who will still be on the Celtics going forward should he sign an extension. He's going to look around and see that Brogdon, Horford, and White all will be UFA and likely gone. Smart will be into his 30s and a UFA a year later. Years of not having 1st round picks might have caught up to us and we may be facing a rebuild especially if Jaylen leaves which makes that pick swap potentially devastating. Everything is peaches and cream while we're beating scrub tanking teams.

[BostonCouchGM]

Good stuff. By pointing out some of the bad stuff you'll counterbalance your constant positive discourse about the team.

cute! Clever even.

Did it make you smile for a second? I'm sorry if that made you uncomfortable.

huge smile. Super duper clever!

[BostonCouchGM]

Death, taxes & BostonCouchGM never admitting he may have been wrong.
3 things that are certain in life.

have I been wrong about White? And have I not said should we win a championship with White playing an integral role that I'll be wrong? Oh, I have? So your post makes no sense? Got it

[SuperDeluxe]

cute! Clever even.

Did it make you smile for a second? I'm sorry if that made you uncomfortable.

huge smile. Super duper clever!

You're more annoying that I thought. Hats off to you.