Game Thread – Celtics @ Wizards – Mon. 7:00PM, Oct. 30, 2023

[chrisab123]

PP and Kornet for VC and CP respectively and respectfully.

I think I've gotta go with the WHOLE BENCH because they closed the game out tonight

You took -22 didn't you?

[Parliament10]

Svi played better than Hauser.
But he also actually managed the ball better that Pritchard.

He would fit so much better with better players. He can put it on the floor and pass. Hauser cannot at all.

this is why I've been penciling Svi in as backup '2'. Some tried to convince me basketball is positionless so it doesn't matter -- e.g., Hauser and Svi are 'both wings' -- but gimme that old fashioned 2-guard who can handle and make plays

Svi seems like a better and more controlled option over Hauser.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

PP with almost the perfectly balanced game. 0-8, 7reb, 6ast, -2bpm

[Hal14]

Yikes this bench is pretty dire. We are going to have to get one more piece I think.

They're going to look bad when they're all in at the same time. They'll look better when they're mixed into a lineup with some of our top 6 guys in there.

It's just garbage time. No one looks good in garbage time.

The Wizards scrubs are looking pretty good in garbage time right now lol

Who cares? It's literally garbage time, it means nothing. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things who's 14th man is better than who?

And it's the first reg season game our bench guys have played together. The wizards get blown out every night, so their scrubs probably have had more reps together.

I care much more about how guys like Brissett, Kornet, Banton, Svi, Hauser and Pritchard perform when they're playing alongside some of our top 6 players. Could really care less how they do during garbage time when all of our top 6 guys are resting.

[Hal14]

He would fit so much better with better players. He can put it on the floor and pass. Hauser cannot at all.

this is why I've been penciling Svi in as backup '2'. Some tried to convince me basketball is positionless so it doesn't matter -- e.g., Hauser and Svi are 'both wings' -- but gimme that old fashioned 2-guard who can handle and make plays

Svi seems like a better and more controlled option over Hauser.

I mean, Hauser was in there vs the Wizards starters. Svi was in there vs the Wizards scrubs during garbage time. We have to factor in the context here. That's a huge difference in competition level they were facing.

Also, Hauser looked better defensively than Svi.

[31to6]

this is why I've been penciling Svi in as backup '2'. Some tried to convince me basketball is positionless so it doesn't matter -- e.g., Hauser and Svi are 'both wings' -- but gimme that old fashioned 2-guard who can handle and make plays

Svi seems like a better and more controlled option over Hauser.

I mean, Hauser was in there vs the Wizards starters. Svi was in there vs the Wizards scrubs during garbage time. We have to factor in the context here.

Also, Hauser looked better defensively than Svi.

I’m trying to repeat my claim from this offseason that — despite both being white guys who shoot it — they are two different types of players, who play two different positions.

Svi at the 2. Hauser at the 3. Not one or the other.

[bucknersrevenge]

Svi seems like a better and more controlled option over Hauser.

I mean, Hauser was in there vs the Wizards starters. Svi was in there vs the Wizards scrubs during garbage time. We have to factor in the context here.

Also, Hauser looked better defensively than Svi.

I’m trying to repeat my claim from this offseason that — despite both being white guys who shoot it — they are two different types of players, who play two different positions.

Svi at the 2. Hauser at the 3. Not one or the other.

The reason why Svi's skillset matters less than you think is because for him to get off the bench earlier than Hauser would be for him to play bench minutes among the top 6 guys. His ballhandling skills become practically irrelevant in that context because he will almost never be using them amongst that group. What that group needs is to hit shots (of course) defend and rebound a little. This is what Hauser does a billion times better than Svi. That's why Svi is on his 18th team in the league right now on a non-guaranteed deal.

[Bar Fight]

They're going to look bad when they're all in at the same time. They'll look better when they're mixed into a lineup with some of our top 6 guys in there.

It's just garbage time. No one looks good in garbage time.

The Wizards scrubs are looking pretty good in garbage time right now lol

Who cares? It's literally garbage time, it means nothing. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things who's 14th man is better than who?

And it's the first reg season game our bench guys have played together. The wizards get blown out every night, so their scrubs probably have had more reps together.

I care much more about how guys like Brissett, Kornet, Banton, Svi, Hauser and Pritchard perform when they're playing alongside some of our top 6 players. Could really care less how they do during garbage time when all of our top 6 guys are resting.

I mean, I was directly responding to you saying “no one looks good in garbage time”. While the Wizards were looking good in garbage time as we spoke lol. Choose your words better I guess

[Curmudgeon]

Was Pritchard shaving points? He was awful. As for the bench, the only guy (apart from Horford) who played halfway decently was Lamar Stevens.

[Hal14]

The Wizards scrubs are looking pretty good in garbage time right now lol

Who cares? It's literally garbage time, it means nothing. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things who's 14th man is better than who?

And it's the first reg season game our bench guys have played together. The wizards get blown out every night, so their scrubs probably have had more reps together.

I care much more about how guys like Brissett, Kornet, Banton, Svi, Hauser and Pritchard perform when they're playing alongside some of our top 6 players. Could really care less how they do during garbage time when all of our top 6 guys are resting.

I mean, I was directly responding to you saying “no one looks good in garbage time”. While the Wizards were looking good in garbage time as we spoke lol. Choose your words better I guess

I'll choose the words I want. I don't see "moderator" next to your posts.

Looking good in garbage time is meaningless, regardless what team it is.

[bucknersrevenge]

Who cares? It's literally garbage time, it means nothing. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things who's 14th man is better than who?

And it's the first reg season game our bench guys have played together. The wizards get blown out every night, so their scrubs probably have had more reps together.

I care much more about how guys like Brissett, Kornet, Banton, Svi, Hauser and Pritchard perform when they're playing alongside some of our top 6 players. Could really care less how they do during garbage time when all of our top 6 guys are resting.

I mean, I was directly responding to you saying “no one looks good in garbage time”. While the Wizards were looking good in garbage time as we spoke lol. Choose your words better I guess

I'll choose the words I want. I don't see "moderator" next to your posts.

Looking good in garbage time is meaningless, regardless what team it is.

The Wizards "looking good in garbage time" is a lot like put gas in a car that is already totaled.

[Bar Fight]

Who cares? It's literally garbage time, it means nothing. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things who's 14th man is better than who?

And it's the first reg season game our bench guys have played together. The wizards get blown out every night, so their scrubs probably have had more reps together.

I care much more about how guys like Brissett, Kornet, Banton, Svi, Hauser and Pritchard perform when they're playing alongside some of our top 6 players. Could really care less how they do during garbage time when all of our top 6 guys are resting.

I mean, I was directly responding to you saying “no one looks good in garbage time”. While the Wizards were looking good in garbage time as we spoke lol. Choose your words better I guess

I'll choose the words I want. I don't see "moderator" next to your posts.

Looking good in garbage time is meaningless, regardless what team it is.

I…I…don’t care if it’s “meaningless”. I was responding to you saying “no one looks good in garbage time” by commenting on the fact that the Wizards were looking good in garbage time at that very moment. It’s a game thread. People are commenting on the game.

Get out of your feelings lol. I’m sorry that you can’t handle even the slightest “negative”/non-homerific comment on the team. Good lord

[KillahGhostface]

Fiesty fiesty

[50yrceltsfan]

I mean, Hauser was in there vs the Wizards starters. Svi was in there vs the Wizards scrubs during garbage time. We have to factor in the context here.

Also, Hauser looked better defensively than Svi.

I’m trying to repeat my claim from this offseason that — despite both being white guys who shoot it — they are two different types of players, who play two different positions.

Svi at the 2. Hauser at the 3. Not one or the other.

The reason why Svi's skillset matters less than you think is because for him to get off the bench earlier than Hauser would be for him to play bench minutes among the top 6 guys. His ballhandling skills become practically irrelevant in that context because he will almost never be using them amongst that group. What that group needs is to hit shots (of course) defend and rebound a little. This is what Hauser does a billion times better than Svi. That's why Svi is on his 18th team in the league right now on a non-guaranteed deal.

I disagree with that. Hauser gets pressed at the 3 point line now and gets very few clean looks, cause he can't make a move and step around those bodies. You can never have enough handles on the court at the same time, especially with this team. Svi over Hauser unless we see some real growth in Hauser's game.

[Curmudgeon]

I want them to give Hauser's minutes to Stevens.

[bucknersrevenge]

I’m trying to repeat my claim from this offseason that — despite both being white guys who shoot it — they are two different types of players, who play two different positions.

Svi at the 2. Hauser at the 3. Not one or the other.

The reason why Svi's skillset matters less than you think is because for him to get off the bench earlier than Hauser would be for him to play bench minutes among the top 6 guys. His ballhandling skills become practically irrelevant in that context because he will almost never be using them amongst that group. What that group needs is to hit shots (of course) defend and rebound a little. This is what Hauser does a billion times better than Svi. That's why Svi is on his 18th team in the league right now on a non-guaranteed deal.

I disagree with that. Hauser gets pressed at the 3 point line now and gets very few clean looks, cause he can't make a move and step around those bodies. You can never have enough handles on the court at the same time, especially with this team. Svi over Hauser unless we see some real growth in Hauser's game.

Then that means the ball is not moving enough (which actually has been a thing to start this year, 29th in assists/game going into tonight), or guys are setting good enough screens for him. Also he's just flat out missing some shots he has a history of making. It happens sometimes. But it's a long seasons. Shooters shoot and they usually shoot their way out of slumps. I don't need guys that are gonna handle and take the ball out of Jrue, Tatum or DWhite's hands. I want guys who will complement them by scoring off their gravity without a lot of Usage. As for Svi over Hauser, I get your opinion and goes without saying that you're welcome to it. Don't see Joe doing that anytime soon. Again, there's a reason why Svi was found in a garbage dump before we signed him to a non-guaranteed deal on this his 87th team in 6 years.

[31to6]

I want them to give Hauser's minutes to Stevens.

Nice job, YOU have identified two players who play the same position. Unlike Svi and Hauser:)

[tfribs45]

PP with almost the perfectly balanced game. 0-8, 7reb, 6ast, -2bpm

half this board was happy to free up the guard position for PP.. No way he should crack our playoff rotation lol. This bench needs help, there will be plenty of options to load up the bench down the rd...

[sam_I_am]

Who cares? It's literally garbage time, it means nothing. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things who's 14th man is better than who?

And it's the first reg season game our bench guys have played together. The wizards get blown out every night, so their scrubs probably have had more reps together.

I care much more about how guys like Brissett, Kornet, Banton, Svi, Hauser and Pritchard perform when they're playing alongside some of our top 6 players. Could really care less how they do during garbage time when all of our top 6 guys are resting.

I mean, I was directly responding to you saying “no one looks good in garbage time”. While the Wizards were looking good in garbage time as we spoke lol. Choose your words better I guess

I'll choose the words I want. I don't see "moderator" next to your posts.

Looking good in garbage time is meaningless, regardless what team it is.

Blowing a huge chunk of a 40 point lead faster than your team built it is nothing to just write off. The Wizards ran a layup drill and erased 20 points off lead without hitting a 3. Kornet, PP and Hauser are rotational players and they got obliterated. They did not look like NBA caliber players out there during that run. They literally looked worse against Jags than the Wizards starters did against our starters in first quarter. I cannot recall a worse performance by a Celtics bench since 2008 against another team’s starters let alone their end of bench. Honestly, the top 3 bench players have been this bad all season so far but it was hidden when they played with the stars. The only reason Hauser is in NBA as an undrafted player is his 3 point shot and he is shooting 17% - and the misses have been way off. While it’s great that he has played some defense and grabbed some boards, there are 60 guys in G-league who can do that better than him. He needs to make 3s.

If Svi and Stevens didn’t ‘stabilize’ things a little we might have seen Joe put the starters back in.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Lamar Stevens is a 28.5 percent career 3-point shooter.
You are not replacing Hauser with him