Grant Williams thread

[Floody100]

Nevermind his struggles, a player of his prototype is gonna be highly sought out regardless (a 40% 3&D stretch four). He's gonna get an $18m/per offer from a team like OKC, Indiana, or Detroit and Brad's gonna match it.

If Brad does match that ridiculous number it better be for trade purposes. Grant is a ham and egger. Been saying it for months now. Sure he will have a great game every now and then but he’s WAY too inconsistent to pay that kind of coin unless there is an ulterior motive.

yep. People used to talk about Grant like they're currently talking about White. This fanbase grossly overrates all of our players. Tatum is the ONLY one worth the praise and yet, many of the same people overrating Grant and White hate on Tatum. It's so laughable. Not the smartest fanbase, that's for sure.

Mate no one gives two **** about your worthless opinions.
Do us all a favour & post your “brilliant” opinions on someone else’s board.

[playa-hater]

It is way too early and player movements in the offseason can change things. But I am having a hard time thinking of a team willing to Give Grant "18 to 20 million"

Even more so moving forward that there will be games where Muscala plays some 4 and Grant plays even less.

Although it only takes 1 team to "over-pay". Right now I am not seeing it.

[timpiker]

I've liked Grant for a long time. For some reason he's not getting the playing time nor is he as good as I once thought he was. Not sure why. I will say this though. Today, March 2, 2023, no way in hell would I pay him $15M or more based on what I've seen so far.

[31to6]

Grant’s going to look great on that shiny new $7M/per contract. Good on you, mate!

Def underrated post.

appreciate

[BK_2020]

Let's strip away one Grant Williams myth at a time, starting with the reminder that Grant Williams gave us 10 points per game on 36% shooting from the field against the Bucks. Minus the game 7, he shot 31.8% from the field.
Thanks for saving us in game 7, Grant! Maybe if you weren't so bad the series doesn't go to 7.

[Stan34]

Let's strip away one Grant Williams myth at a time, starting with the reminder that Grant Williams gave us 10 points per game on 36% shooting from the field against the Bucks. Minus the game 7, he shot 31.8% from the field.
Thanks for saving us in game 7, Grant! Maybe if you weren't so bad the series doesn't go to 7.

Games have moments. Winning playes, def stops, a steal at the right moment and so on. Stop to sell us that basket is only about shooting stats or stats. It's not.

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[BK_2020]

Let's strip away one Grant Williams myth at a time, starting with the reminder that Grant Williams gave us 10 points per game on 36% shooting from the field against the Bucks. Minus the game 7, he shot 31.8% from the field.
Thanks for saving us in game 7, Grant! Maybe if you weren't so bad the series doesn't go to 7.

Games have moments. Winning playes, def stops, a steal at the right moment and so on. Stop to sell us that basket is only about shooting stats or stats. It's not.

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Yeah and one of those moments might have been any one of the 7 missed shots in game 3. Grant shot 2-9 that game, 1-6 from the three. The Celtics lost by 2 points.

Or, perhaps that moment might have come in game 5 which the Celtics lost by 3. It was a tie game with 31 seconds left. Imagine if Grant had hit even one of his 3 shots he was able to get off in 30 minutes.

Not getting things done hurts the team just as much as getting things done helps the team. Focusing only on moments that happened is a bias. The simple fact is if Grant Williams was not atrociously bad and only regular bad, the Bucks series is over in 5 games and the Celtics probably go on to win the finals without the draining two extra games.

[celtxman]

The Celtics have to balance his value with the ever increasing salary cap. It doesn't look great for Williams to get a DNP at this time essentially saying "we like you,but we can win without you. I think the cap is $15 million.

[bucknersrevenge]

Never seen so much hand-wringing over the 8th man in a rotation.

RENT. FREE,

[Stan34]

Let's strip away one Grant Williams myth at a time, starting with the reminder that Grant Williams gave us 10 points per game on 36% shooting from the field against the Bucks. Minus the game 7, he shot 31.8% from the field.
Thanks for saving us in game 7, Grant! Maybe if you weren't so bad the series doesn't go to 7.

Games have moments. Winning playes, def stops, a steal at the right moment and so on. Stop to sell us that basket is only about shooting stats or stats. It's not.

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Yeah and one of those moments might have been any one of the 7 missed shots in game 3. Grant shot 2-9 that game, 1-6 from the three. The Celtics lost by 2 points.

Or, perhaps that moment might have come in game 5 which the Celtics lost by 3. It was a tie game with 31 seconds left. Imagine if Grant had hit even one of his 3 shots he was able to get off in 30 minutes.

Not getting things done hurts the team just as much as getting things done helps the team. Focusing only on moments that happened is a bias. The simple fact is if Grant Williams was not atrociously bad and only regular bad, the Bucks series is over in 5 games and the Celtics probably go on to win the finals without the draining two extra games.

Grant is a role player, right now he is the 8th man. You have to balance your expectations. Ad an 8th man he is good.

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[cl2117]

Games have moments. Winning playes, def stops, a steal at the right moment and so on. Stop to sell us that basket is only about shooting stats or stats. It's not.

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Yeah and one of those moments might have been any one of the 7 missed shots in game 3. Grant shot 2-9 that game, 1-6 from the three. The Celtics lost by 2 points.

Or, perhaps that moment might have come in game 5 which the Celtics lost by 3. It was a tie game with 31 seconds left. Imagine if Grant had hit even one of his 3 shots he was able to get off in 30 minutes.

Not getting things done hurts the team just as much as getting things done helps the team. Focusing only on moments that happened is a bias. The simple fact is if Grant Williams was not atrociously bad and only regular bad, the Bucks series is over in 5 games and the Celtics probably go on to win the finals without the draining two extra games.

Grant is a role player, right now he is the 8th man. You have to balance your expectations. Ad an 8th man he is good.

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Yeah he was in his third year in the league last year as well. Context matters.

He played good defense against Giannis (as good as you can hope for given that he's unstoppable), had a clutch game 7 and good series against both Miami and Brooklyn. That's good for a 3rd year guy who wasn't a lotto pick.

[snowman]

No way do I pay Grant Williams more than I pay Rob Williams. (4 for 48)

Rob has leg issues but still is one of the most valuable players on the team, even with bad knees.

Grant can shoot the three ball, and at times play some great defense but disappears too often, fouls too much and is too small to play a "big" position consistently and to slow to play the three. I got no problem with us matching up too 4 for 48 like Rob gets, but no more. Sign and trade for a TPE if more.

[celtxman]

Never seen so much hand-wringing over the 8th man in a rotation.

RENT. FREE,

I really don't see it as handwringing. I'm not losing any sleep if he winds up elsewhere and it would be nice to make it a sign and trade and get a little something back. Remember - there's a thread about the 15th man here so people are hoping for a perfect roster.
Many of us remember the Big 3 Era where the team did not do a good job with the roster and it was probably costly. I've got no issue about being diligent with the 8th spot, but not losing sleep if Willaims doesn't work out.

[BK_2020]

Games have moments. Winning playes, def stops, a steal at the right moment and so on. Stop to sell us that basket is only about shooting stats or stats. It's not.

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Yeah and one of those moments might have been any one of the 7 missed shots in game 3. Grant shot 2-9 that game, 1-6 from the three. The Celtics lost by 2 points.

Or, perhaps that moment might have come in game 5 which the Celtics lost by 3. It was a tie game with 31 seconds left. Imagine if Grant had hit even one of his 3 shots he was able to get off in 30 minutes.

Not getting things done hurts the team just as much as getting things done helps the team. Focusing only on moments that happened is a bias. The simple fact is if Grant Williams was not atrociously bad and only regular bad, the Bucks series is over in 5 games and the Celtics probably go on to win the finals without the draining two extra games.

Grant is a role player, right now he is the 8th man. You have to balance your expectations. Ad an 8th man he is good.

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My post is responding to people who think he's a starter-level player deserving of 18-20 million and the reason we won the Bucks series. I completely agree with you. Grant is a bottom of the rotation role player, albeit he does well in that role.

[captain green]

Never liked can't Williams. And I'd be even more annoyed if we paid him anything over 13 mill

[return2glory]

Grant gets a DNP and the haters come out.

He is a really good role player and a great teammate. There is a lot he does for the team, including playing multiple positions amd guarding multiple positions. Don't worry about how much he is going to get paid. Brad will handle that. Or another team.

Grant and Pritchard will most likely find another time, where they will get paid more and have a chance to play more.

[captain green]

Grant gets a DNP and the haters come out.

He is a really good role player and a great teammate. There is a lot he does for the team, including playing multiple positions amd guarding multiple positions. Don't worry about how much he is going to get paid. Brad will handle that. Or another team.

Grant and Pritchard will most likely find another time, where they will get paid more and have a chance to play more.

No I've been here sense the beginning. I gave him the nickname can't will

[bucknersrevenge]

Never seen so much hand-wringing over the 8th man in a rotation.

RENT. FREE,

I really don't see it as handwringing. I'm not losing any sleep if he winds up elsewhere and it would be nice to make it a sign and trade and get a little something back. Remember - there's a thread about the 15th man here so people are hoping for a perfect roster.
Many of us remember the Big 3 Era where the team did not do a good job with the roster and it was probably costly. I've got no issue about being diligent with the 8th spot, but not losing sleep if Willaims doesn't work out.

It's definitely handwringing by some. You sound somewhat measured if not fairly apathetic about whether or not Grant stays here. But many others seem legitimately angry and bent over by the audacity of a player as "terrible" as Grant trying to secure the bag. As if wanting 20M (regardless of whether or not he gets it) is akin to giving them the finger. It's not really as deep as it's made out to be though. Teams know who Grant is and isn't at this point. But he's gonna make or lose his fortune in the playoffs, not a random game here or there in the regular season when he misses a few shots.

[bucknersrevenge]

Grant gets a DNP and the haters come out.

He is a really good role player and a great teammate. There is a lot he does for the team, including playing multiple positions amd guarding multiple positions. Don't worry about how much he is going to get paid. Brad will handle that. Or another team.

Grant and Pritchard will most likely find another time, where they will get paid more and have a chance to play more.

So much this.

We have a deep bench now. Deep bench now means options for Joe. Grant wasn't a good matchup for Cleveland but he should be a much better one for Brooklyn.

[165bows]

Duplicate posting like a rookie.