It's a Tragedy to see the Deadline's Over Post Trade Thread

[CeltsfaninDC]

When I think of Otto Porter all I can think of is this haha...

Have Timelord with him on the floor always. Rob can fix that.

That player you see there is not the same one you would see today. He's listed at 198 lbs..... thats a joke.

He's had numerous injuries and can't stay on the court

Injuries have ruined the last two seasons for Porter, limiting him to 14 games last season (foot) and 56 games in 2018-19. The last time he played close to a full season came in 2017-18, when he played 77 games for the Wizards.

Lets just say that no one in WAS was unhappy to see him go when he was traded

[leper-con]

He won't help us against Embied. Embied owns him so badly it isn't even funny.

Embied owns space inside his head.

[CeltsfaninDC]

Ok..... no.
He's had a really bad season, is out of shape, has been hurt and wasn't worth any of the money the Wiz paid him on that big contract a few years ago. He's a 3 and D guy who isn't all that great at the D part. There is a good reason why they are buying him out

Not exactly sure what is going on this season, but if you go back to '18-19, from a statistical standpoint I have him as the league's 14th best defensive player. Better yet, '17-18, I have him ranked 12th offensively, 9th defensively, and 10th overall.

He fell off quite a bit last year in my spreadsheet, but still would have been well worth a minimum contract. And that was on 20 mpg in a messy rebuilding environment. And his per 36 stats look pretty nice this year. If you can get him as a cheap FA signing, IMO you just do it, worst case you end up cutting him.

I doubt he gets bought out, though.

He's been injured and gained a bunch of weight which hasn't helped. he looks like fat Harden now and that has also hurt his speed and defense. He's not a difference maker if he's hurt and overweight

[Ben-N1ce]

He won't help us against Embied. Embied owns him so badly it isn't even funny.

Embied owns space inside his head.

Embiid had career nights against the Celtics this year so...

[BillessuR6]

There can be only one!

Kelly Olynyk!

He is our buy-out guy!

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[bisme37]

I don't even think Drummond is a good player but I'm won't be upset if we get him for the minimum. He is large and adds depth and could be a weapon in certain match-ups.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Not Nets. He's already said that he wasn't interested in Brooklyn. I mean, we have a shot. There's minutes for him here. He supposedly wants to be back east. He's got his UConn connection with Kemba, plus they share the same agent, Jeff Schwartz and he has a fantastic relationship with Danny. I don't know what kind of shot we got but we have a shot. I think I might be more partial to Olynyk due to roster fit and his familiarity but Drummond could choose us.

I think if we get Drummond we'd buy out TT. Or else it's just a dumb move. You can sort of play TT and Theis together. But TT + Drummond would be the disaster of disasters and one of those guys is going to be severely unhappy and be horrible for the team.

This Drummond thing just seems like more spec from media types

Drummond does not make great sense for either LA, Brooklyn philly or Mil ....Boston NY and Charlotte make the most sense. He is far more interested in a prominant role, playing for new contract while still in his prime ...age 27.
He is a VERY rich man's TT, Drummond and Rob will play and TT will cheer

He would get playing time in LA or NJ and he will win a title. I just don't see him wanting to play on a 21-24 that is in shambles. Hell, he would be better off playing in NY or Charlotte as they are better teams right now.

The reality is buyout players don't want to play for a 21-24 (which is going to be the Celtics record 6 hours from now)
team that could very well miss the playoffs.

[GoGreen]

I keep seeing Olynyk's name thrown out there. Is he expected to become available? Cause shoot I'll take him as a back up, easy. Come on home KO.

[bisme37]

I always liked how MY GUY THEIS (tm) played against Embiid. Sure Joel had good nights against him but Theis also had some of his best scoring nights against Joel. Did a great job of drawing him out of the paint and wearing him out over the course of the game.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

He won't help us against Embied. Embied owns him so badly it isn't even funny.

Embied owns space inside his head.

Embiid is an MVP Candidate and is owning everyone.

[Captain_Caveman]

- Kornet is driving from Chicago to meet the Celtics in Milwaukee today.

I lol'd more than i should have

LOL, in fairness, it is a two hour drive and probably a lot easier than dealing with one of Chicago's massive airports.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

- Kornet is driving from Chicago to meet the Celtics in Milwaukee today.

I lol'd more than i should have

LOL, in fairness, it is a two hour drive and probably a lot easier than dealing with one of Chicago's massive airports.

I would rather drive 2 hours than fly for 30 minutes and deal with airports, parking and planes.

[jfs1000d]

I keep seeing Olynyk's name thrown out there. Is he expected to become available? Cause shoot I'll take him as a back up, easy. Come on home KO.

KO has no business being in Houston. Stupid player to have on that roster.


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[jfs1000d]

I think if we get Drummond we'd buy out TT. Or else it's just a dumb move. You can sort of play TT and Theis together. But TT + Drummond would be the disaster of disasters and one of those guys is going to be severely unhappy and be horrible for the team.

This Drummond thing just seems like more spec from media types

Drummond does not make great sense for either LA, Brooklyn philly or Mil ....Boston NY and Charlotte make the most sense. He is far more interested in a prominant role, playing for new contract while still in his prime ...age 27.
He is a VERY rich man's TT, Drummond and Rob will play and TT will cheer

He would get playing time in LA or NJ and he will win a title. I just don't see him wanting to play on a 21-24 that is in shambles. Hell, he would be better off playing in NY or Charlotte as they are better teams right now.

The reality is buyout players don't want to play for a 21-24 (which is going to be the Celtics record 6 hours from now)
team that could very well miss the playoffs.

He isn’t a ring hoe. He wants to play for a contract. Boston is going to make a run at the 4 seed. We’ll see.


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[Andrew McCeltic]

Any ideas/scenarios for a Tristan Thompson trade this summer, or for using the 10 million TPE? The only realistic TPE scenario I see is getting Mason Plumlee from Detroit..

[sportfan6197]

I think if we get Drummond we'd buy out TT. Or else it's just a dumb move. You can sort of play TT and Theis together. But TT + Drummond would be the disaster of disasters and one of those guys is going to be severely unhappy and be horrible for the team.

This Drummond thing just seems like more spec from media types

Drummond does not make great sense for either LA, Brooklyn philly or Mil ....Boston NY and Charlotte make the most sense. He is far more interested in a prominant role, playing for new contract while still in his prime ...age 27.
He is a VERY rich man's TT, Drummond and Rob will play and TT will cheer

He would get playing time in LA or NJ and he will win a title. I just don't see him wanting to play on a 21-24 that is in shambles. Hell, he would be better off playing in NY or Charlotte as they are better teams right now.

The reality is buyout players don't want to play for a 21-24 (which is going to be the Celtics record 6 hours from now)
team that could very well miss the playoffs.

The issue with LA, is I’m not sure he’ll look good at all without Lebron or Rondo there. He obviously wants to go to a place he’ll not only get PT but what’s the point if he is playing with Harrell KCP Dennis THT most of the time, and then spot min in playoffs?

If nets brass didn’t let JA start over Jordan, they won’t let Drummond. But the fit would be way better , harden would make him look amazing

[skywalker33]

I heard Ainge "tried" to trade for Vuc, seems we hear something like this every year. Not sure why we hear of these FAILURES, is Ainge just trying to prove he has good intentions or is just inept at his job ? Never understood why the FO puts this out their "what could have been" efforts, seems like an attempt to show the fanbase he's got their back but always comes across as he doesn't get the job done IMO. Either way, seems like a chance to do some PR manipulation.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/262049/Celtics-Tried-To-Trade-For-Nikola-Vucevic

Wait until you Nuggets fans watch Aaron Gordon play basketball. Maybe you will reevaluate your opinion of Ainge. As for Vuc, there is almost no way that the Celtics could have matched salaries without Orlando agreeing to take Kemba Walker. It would have taken Smart, Tristan Thompson and at least one prospect (e.g. Langford) plus two draft picks. He's not worth it.

I have no issue with the prudence of NOT trading away the farm for a player, I think it shows good discernment and wisdom. But why LEAK out about what you COULDN'T get done, seems like he's trying to placate the fanbase, a little stroking to keep his job.

[Homerclease]

I’m shocked people are so down on this trade deadline.

They got Fournier for absolutely peanuts, will space the floor and make things 100x easier on the Jays going forward. Can always have a number two option on the court with either Jay with Kemba and Fournier now.

Wagner is a better player than Semi and Grant, they got an upgrade there where they desperately needed one.

Last but not least, getting Theis out of the way opens the door for RW3 to start as he should’ve been all year. Addition by subtraction.

We aren’t any closer to a chip but that was never realistic unless we made the move for John Collins. It should be a much more enjoyable product on the floor though and should at least be able to climb back to 4th in the conference. They need injuries from the Nets to make to the finals but I think this team has a punchers chance against either Milwaukee or Philly as is

[Captain_Caveman]

It's amazing how many people on here don't understand. It's been spelled out so many times. People are just willingly ignorant. Feel like there are 5 or 6 of us who get it and everyone else is screaming "fire Ainge."

On a board where one of our best posters just got a 12-hour ban for saying this place sucks, I'm not gonna go too far here. Its a message board and all opinions within board rules have a right to be stated. But speaking for myself, as frustrating as the team and last 12 months of life have been, I'll just be honest and say that I am only here for like 30% of the posters here. Beyond that, I don't care for the bulk of the discourse, the rampant entitlement, or what I perceive to be some taking out their COVID fatigue and/or lives out on the team.

To the topic, no, you do not trigger a repeater tax at potentially $20-25m above the tax threshold next year just to go $1m above the tax now for 29 games of Theis on a sub-.500 team that might not even make the playoffs.

Yeah I think you are ok. Unless you are planning on losing your **** like truth.

I agree that the entitlement in this area is extreme. We have a whole generation of Boston sports fan that have been spoiled by Tom Brady and a good amount of success from every major sports team in this city.

On a whole, Danny Ainge has been a reason for that success. But, the last two plus years have certainly been less than spectacular for this management team. I have been willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until we let Hayward walk. But between that move, our subpar drafting, and poor roster construction. It’s been a tough to watch us squander what looked to be an opportunity to win a championship.

I know this isn’t all on Danny as some of the things that happened have been out of his control. But I just feel the organization has only been half way inn on winning. The last two years are prime examples. Kyrie asked for vets and roster improvement his last year here. We weren’t willing to go for it. If we had listened maybe Kyrie isn’t checked out and we win a championship in a down year. IMO these last two championships were winnable. But we weren’t willing to make short term win now moves to go for it. All to preserve picks that became Grant Williams , Romeo Langford, Aaron Nesmith and Payton Pritchard.

Honestly you could argue , we did the same thing during the KG era. Stupidly low balling Tony Allen, and despite it being a bad deal on the back end, not resigning James Posey. All because we wanted flexibility moving forward when we were in the middle of championship contention.

Minor quibble on the subpar drafting comment. I think Ainge is well-demonstrated as one of the top drafters. This year alone, we have two guys that were drafted 26th-27th who have emerged as legit rotation players. During his 17-year tenure, Ainge has basically averaged one non-lottery pick a year becoming a decent-to-excellent rotation player. That's actually pretty amazing.

[skywalker33]

Now all you need is to sign Drummomnd !!