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Poll: would you trade JB for KD?

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Would you trade JB for KD?

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No
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Post#621 » by Hal14 » Wed Aug 3, 2022 6:03 pm

edit, wrong thread
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything :)
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Re: Poll: would you trade JB for KD? 

Post#622 » by sam_I_am » Wed Aug 3, 2022 6:25 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
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MagicBagley18 wrote:
Hey send over those news reports that confirm it’s More and more bs that it ever happened....my sons at daycare have some time to read today


Don’t waste your time. Jaylen Brown is going to have a great year as a Celtic this season.


So does that means none of these reports exist? Can u point me where to find them? Ps....I hope Jaylen does have a great year. Send over whatever u have really I’ll read anything u got


Sorry to pretend like this JB/KD trade still a thing by engaging you but I guess was bored as Red Sox are so terrible and Pats preseason weeks away.

It was dead in the water when Shams/Woj reported it …. which is exactly why it was leaked. Unless you think making the offer public like this is a good faith negotiating tactic?

The Nets could never accept anything less than a godfather offer after trading away all picks and the Celtics could never give up that much for a 34 yo with rapidly declining ability to win playoff games when they are already contenders. Read Bulpett’s piece if you must read something. Cling to your KD to Boston delusion for as long as you must….but it just is not happening….but that is ONLY my opinion.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Re: Poll: would you trade JB for KD? 

Post#623 » by MagicBagley18 » Wed Aug 3, 2022 6:33 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
Don’t waste your time. Jaylen Brown is going to have a great year as a Celtic this season.


So does that means none of these reports exist? Can u point me where to find them? Ps....I hope Jaylen does have a great year. Send over whatever u have really I’ll read anything u got


Sorry to pretend like this JB/KD trade still a thing by engaging you but I guess was bored as Red Sox are so terrible and Pats preseason weeks away.

It was dead in the water when Shams/Woj reported it …. which is exactly why it was leaked. Unless you think making the offer public like this is a good faith negotiating tactic?

The Nets could never accept anything less than a godfather offer after trading away all picks and the Celtics could never give up that much for a 34 yo with rapidly declining ability to win playoff games when they are already contenders. Read Bulpett’s piece if you must read something. Cling to your KD to Boston delusion for as long as you must….but it just is not happening….but that is ONLY my opinion.


No prob. Send those articles and links over buddy, I’m sure they exist. Pm is fine also. Thanks!
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Re: Poll: would you trade JB for KD? 

Post#624 » by sam_I_am » Wed Aug 3, 2022 6:41 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
So does that means none of these reports exist? Can u point me where to find them? Ps....I hope Jaylen does have a great year. Send over whatever u have really I’ll read anything u got


Sorry to pretend like this JB/KD trade still a thing by engaging you but I guess was bored as Red Sox are so terrible and Pats preseason weeks away.

It was dead in the water when Shams/Woj reported it …. which is exactly why it was leaked. Unless you think making the offer public like this is a good faith negotiating tactic?

The Nets could never accept anything less than a godfather offer after trading away all picks and the Celtics could never give up that much for a 34 yo with rapidly declining ability to win playoff games when they are already contenders. Read Bulpett’s piece if you must read something. Cling to your KD to Boston delusion for as long as you must….but it just is not happening….but that is ONLY my opinion.


No prob. Send those articles and links over buddy, I’m sure they exist. Pm is fine also. Thanks!


A personnel exec from another club expressed disappointment with the process.

“I think there’s some teams that aren’t very happy that when they talk to Brooklyn it gets in the papers,” he said. “That doesn’t help. I’ve talked with a couple of teams that are not happy with the rumors that creep out of there through all this. It’s not a good way to do business.”

Unless, perhaps, the Nets are trying to roil the waters in Boston and damage the relationship with Brown.

“That’s probably why they won’t get anything done and why they haven’t had any conversations for a while,” said a source. “I don’t think they are going to get anything done with Boston.”


Once upon a time, RealGM was a place you could go for interesting basketball talk and now it’s overrun with ball busters like yourself. I’m sorry you are unable to realize that the Nets leaking this rumor is proof there is no deal on the table. It’s low ball BS behavior by the Nets and it should transparent to anybody that pays attention to how things are done in Boston.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Re: Poll: would you trade JB for KD? 

Post#625 » by MagicBagley18 » Wed Aug 3, 2022 6:45 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
Sorry to pretend like this JB/KD trade still a thing by engaging you but I guess was bored as Red Sox are so terrible and Pats preseason weeks away.

It was dead in the water when Shams/Woj reported it …. which is exactly why it was leaked. Unless you think making the offer public like this is a good faith negotiating tactic?

The Nets could never accept anything less than a godfather offer after trading away all picks and the Celtics could never give up that much for a 34 yo with rapidly declining ability to win playoff games when they are already contenders. Read Bulpett’s piece if you must read something. Cling to your KD to Boston delusion for as long as you must….but it just is not happening….but that is ONLY my opinion.


No prob. Send those articles and links over buddy, I’m sure they exist. Pm is fine also. Thanks!


A personnel exec from another club expressed disappointment with the process.

“I think there’s some teams that aren’t very happy that when they talk to Brooklyn it gets in the papers,” he said. “That doesn’t help. I’ve talked with a couple of teams that are not happy with the rumors that creep out of there through all this. It’s not a good way to do business.”

Unless, perhaps, the Nets are trying to roil the waters in Boston and damage the relationship with Brown.

“That’s probably why they won’t get anything done and why they haven’t had any conversations for a while,” said a source. “I don’t think they are going to get anything done with Boston.”


Once upon a time, RealGM was a place you could go for interesting basketball talk and now it’s overrun with ball busters like yourself. I’m sorry you are too slow to realize that the Nets leaking this rumor is proof there is no deal on the table. It’s low ball BS behavior by the Nets and it should transparent to anybody that pays attention to how things are done in Boston front office.


That’s the same article we talked about from yesterday son.....we need the “more and more” evidence u mentioned. Where’s it at
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Re: Poll: would you trade JB for KD? 

Post#626 » by sam_I_am » Wed Aug 3, 2022 6:49 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
No prob. Send those articles and links over buddy, I’m sure they exist. Pm is fine also. Thanks!


A personnel exec from another club expressed disappointment with the process.

“I think there’s some teams that aren’t very happy that when they talk to Brooklyn it gets in the papers,” he said. “That doesn’t help. I’ve talked with a couple of teams that are not happy with the rumors that creep out of there through all this. It’s not a good way to do business.”

Unless, perhaps, the Nets are trying to roil the waters in Boston and damage the relationship with Brown.

“That’s probably why they won’t get anything done and why they haven’t had any conversations for a while,” said a source. “I don’t think they are going to get anything done with Boston.”


Once upon a time, RealGM was a place you could go for interesting basketball talk and now it’s overrun with ball busters like yourself. I’m sorry you are too slow to realize that the Nets leaking this rumor is proof there is no deal on the table. It’s low ball BS behavior by the Nets and it should transparent to anybody that pays attention to how things are done in Boston front office.


That’s the same article we talked about from yesterday son.....we need the “more and more” evidence u mentioned. Where’s it at


Again, google is pretty simple to use and I’m not your secretary. While we are at it, show me one single article that quotes a Boston Celtic official or even a current Celtic player or agent that contradicts anything I’ve said. One Sham tweet is all we got.

Here is the exact wording of the WOJ tweet:

As Brooklyn Nets star Kevin Durant's trade request approaches a fourth week, the Boston Celtics have emerged among teams engaged in talks on a possible deal, sources told ESPN.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Re: Poll: would you trade JB for KD? 

Post#627 » by MagicBagley18 » Wed Aug 3, 2022 7:06 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:


Once upon a time, RealGM was a place you could go for interesting basketball talk and now it’s overrun with ball busters like yourself. I’m sorry you are too slow to realize that the Nets leaking this rumor is proof there is no deal on the table. It’s low ball BS behavior by the Nets and it should transparent to anybody that pays attention to how things are done in Boston front office.


That’s the same article we talked about from yesterday son.....we need the “more and more” evidence u mentioned. Where’s it at


Again, google is pretty simple to use and I’m not your secretary. While we are at it, show me one single article that quotes a Boston Celtic official or even a current Celtic player or agent that contradicts anything I’ve said. One Sham tweet is all we got.

Here is the exact wording of the WOJ tweet:

As Brooklyn Nets star Kevin Durant's trade request approaches a fourth week, the Boston Celtics have emerged among teams engaged in talks on a possible deal, sources told ESPN.


Buddy, these are all old links. You said yesterday there was more and more evidence to back your claim - where it at?
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Post#628 » by sam_I_am » Wed Aug 3, 2022 7:12 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
That’s the same article we talked about from yesterday son.....we need the “more and more” evidence u mentioned. Where’s it at


Again, google is pretty simple to use and I’m not your secretary. While we are at it, show me one single article that quotes a Boston Celtic official or even a current Celtic player or agent that contradicts anything I’ve said. One Sham tweet is all we got.

Here is the exact wording of the WOJ tweet:

As Brooklyn Nets star Kevin Durant's trade request approaches a fourth week, the Boston Celtics have emerged among teams engaged in talks on a possible deal, sources told ESPN.


Buddy, these are all old links. You said yesterday there was more and more evidence to back your claim - where it at?


Yet you peddle the same Sham tweet for weeks? Come on. Let’s see you do better.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Re: Poll: would you trade JB for KD? 

Post#629 » by MagicBagley18 » Wed Aug 3, 2022 7:27 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
Again, google is pretty simple to use and I’m not your secretary. While we are at it, show me one single article that quotes a Boston Celtic official or even a current Celtic player or agent that contradicts anything I’ve said. One Sham tweet is all we got.

Here is the exact wording of the WOJ tweet:



Buddy, these are all old links. You said yesterday there was more and more evidence to back your claim - where it at?


Yet you peddle the same Sham tweet for weeks? Come on. Let’s see you do better.


Sure, if you ignore the other half dozen reports by the most respected in the business who have also backed it. Anyways pm me those links buddy! I’m sure they exist. Gotta go
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Post#630 » by sam_I_am » Wed Aug 3, 2022 7:53 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Buddy, these are all old links. You said yesterday there was more and more evidence to back your claim - where it at?


Yet you peddle the same Sham tweet for weeks? Come on. Let’s see you do better.


Sure, if you ignore the other half dozen reports by the most respected in the business who have also backed it. Anyways pm me those links buddy! I’m sure they exist. Gotta go


Have a nice summer old friend! Can’t wait until JB and Tatum take the floor as they enter their prime with an upgraded roster! Then we can talk about the games rather than the fake news.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Re: Poll: would you trade JB for KD? 

Post#631 » by Slax » Wed Aug 3, 2022 8:14 pm

Hal14 wrote:
Slax wrote:"I can sell you the car for $34k."

"Sure, that's a deal."

"Oh! You said yes! Uh, let me go ask my manager if this car was actually even for sale in the first place."

Hmmmmmmm

Are you seriously comparing selling a car to executing an NBA trade involving franchise players?

I'm making a point about how professionals don't waste their time and credibility offering to conduct business transactions that they don't actually have the authority to fulfill.
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Post#632 » by Hal14 » Wed Aug 3, 2022 8:20 pm

Slax wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Slax wrote:"I can sell you the car for $34k."

"Sure, that's a deal."

"Oh! You said yes! Uh, let me go ask my manager if this car was actually even for sale in the first place."

Hmmmmmmm

Are you seriously comparing selling a car to executing an NBA trade involving franchise players?

I'm making a point about how professionals don't waste their time and credibility offering to conduct business transactions that they don't actually have the authority to fulfill.

and i'm saying that car dealerships conduct business much differently than NBA teams do. So differently that it's a silly comparison to make.
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything :)
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Re: Poll: would you trade JB for KD? 

Post#633 » by sam_I_am » Wed Aug 3, 2022 8:32 pm

Slax wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Slax wrote:"I can sell you the car for $34k."

"Sure, that's a deal."

"Oh! You said yes! Uh, let me go ask my manager if this car was actually even for sale in the first place."

Hmmmmmmm

Are you seriously comparing selling a car to executing an NBA trade involving franchise players?

I'm making a point about how professionals don't waste their time and credibility offering to conduct business transactions that they don't actually have the authority to fulfill.


The Nets are the sellers so this analogy doesn’t work. This is more accurate. Brad saw a vintage Cadillac with a market value of $50,000 and offered $35,000. Carfax reports 2 prior accidents. The Nets came back and says it’ll cost $60,000 plus $10,000 dealer markup and that includes counting your 3 year old Toyota Camry as a trade in. The buyer then discovered the asking price isn’t worth it. The manager then posted on Facebook details about an offer a customer made and included his name.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Re: Poll: would you trade JB for KD? 

Post#634 » by zronv7 » Wed Aug 3, 2022 10:24 pm

Absolutely not, go to the nets board and see how hungry they are for brown. They have a toxic situation now let’s let them deal with that mess lol

But Durant is getting old, the c’s dominated him in the playoffs. This would screw up the amazing squad of players we have and the timeline. This would be looked at as a “greedy” move from management, thinking it’d the next leg up to a championship but sometimes you need to sit with what you build.

I’d also rather have Brown for 2 years then Durant for 4.
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Re: Poll: would you trade JB for KD? 

Post#635 » by MagicBagley18 » Wed Aug 3, 2022 10:31 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
Slax wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Are you seriously comparing selling a car to executing an NBA trade involving franchise players?

I'm making a point about how professionals don't waste their time and credibility offering to conduct business transactions that they don't actually have the authority to fulfill.


The Nets are the sellers so this analogy doesn’t work. This is more accurate. Brad saw a vintage Cadillac with a market value of $50,000 and offered $35,000. Carfax reports 2 prior accidents. The Nets came back and says it’ll cost $60,000 plus $10,000 dealer markup and that includes counting your 3 year old Toyota Camry as a trade in. The buyer then discovered the asking price isn’t worth it. The manager then posted on Facebook details about an offer a customer made and included his name.


Can you link the car fax reports bro? I never got the other stuff so I’d like to read those
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Re: Poll: would you trade JB for KD? 

Post#636 » by Slax » Wed Aug 3, 2022 10:39 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
Slax wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Are you seriously comparing selling a car to executing an NBA trade involving franchise players?

I'm making a point about how professionals don't waste their time and credibility offering to conduct business transactions that they don't actually have the authority to fulfill.


The Nets are the sellers so this analogy doesn’t work. This is more accurate. Brad saw a vintage Cadillac with a market value of $50,000 and offered $35,000. Carfax reports 2 prior accidents. The Nets came back and says it’ll cost $60,000 plus $10,000 dealer markup and that includes counting your 3 year old Toyota Camry as a trade in. The buyer then discovered the asking price isn’t worth it. The manager then posted on Facebook details about an offer a customer made and included his name.

In your example, is Brad lying about his ability to offer $35k because he hadn't actually checked if his rich dad is willing to write the check?
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Post#637 » by sam_I_am » Wed Aug 3, 2022 11:44 pm

Slax wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
Slax wrote:I'm making a point about how professionals don't waste their time and credibility offering to conduct business transactions that they don't actually have the authority to fulfill.


The Nets are the sellers so this analogy doesn’t work. This is more accurate. Brad saw a vintage Cadillac with a market value of $50,000 and offered $35,000. Carfax reports 2 prior accidents. The Nets came back and says it’ll cost $60,000 plus $10,000 dealer markup and that includes counting your 3 year old Toyota Camry as a trade in. The buyer then discovered the asking price isn’t worth it. The manager then posted on Facebook details about an offer a customer made and included his name.

In your example, is Brad lying about his ability to offer $35k because he hadn't actually checked if his rich dad is willing to write the check?


I think when a team is fielding 25 offers, it’s pretty standard to put in an offer to see what market is. I’m sure when Nets replied they wanted Smart, Williams, 3 picks and 2 swaps Brad did discuss with brain trust and they all moved on. If they really wanted KD, the initial offer would have been different. We’ll see ….
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Re: Poll: would you trade JB for KD? 

Post#638 » by Slax » Thu Aug 4, 2022 12:11 am

sam_I_am wrote:
Slax wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
The Nets are the sellers so this analogy doesn’t work. This is more accurate. Brad saw a vintage Cadillac with a market value of $50,000 and offered $35,000. Carfax reports 2 prior accidents. The Nets came back and says it’ll cost $60,000 plus $10,000 dealer markup and that includes counting your 3 year old Toyota Camry as a trade in. The buyer then discovered the asking price isn’t worth it. The manager then posted on Facebook details about an offer a customer made and included his name.

In your example, is Brad lying about his ability to offer $35k because he hadn't actually checked if his rich dad is willing to write the check?


I think when a team is fielding 25 offers, it’s pretty standard to put in an offer to see what market is. I’m sure when Nets replied they wanted Smart, Williams, 3 picks and 2 swaps Brad did discuss with brain trust and they all moved on. If they really wanted KD, the initial offer would have been different. We’ll see ….

If what you're saying is that we offered Brown, Whote, and a draft pick as a little bit of a low ball and they came back with an unreasonable ask that we wouldn't go through with and if neither team budges from their current offers then obviously nothing gets done, then I agree.
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Re: Poll: would you trade JB for KD? 

Post#639 » by sam_I_am » Thu Aug 4, 2022 12:22 am

Slax wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
Slax wrote:In your example, is Brad lying about his ability to offer $35k because he hadn't actually checked if his rich dad is willing to write the check?


I think when a team is fielding 25 offers, it’s pretty standard to put in an offer to see what market is. I’m sure when Nets replied they wanted Smart, Williams, 3 picks and 2 swaps Brad did discuss with brain trust and they all moved on. If they really wanted KD, the initial offer would have been different. We’ll see ….

If what you're saying is that we offered Brown, Whote, and a draft pick as a little bit of a low ball and they came back with an unreasonable ask that we wouldn't go through with and if neither team budges from their current offers then obviously nothing gets done, then I agree.


I think it would be fireable offense if Celtics brass did not explore framework of a deal and then think about it. It’s either Horford and picks or JB + white or smart……that’s the only way to match salary. Celtics only offered 1 pick when the price was 3 + 2 swaps and then walked away. The Nets then tanked any chance of future negotiations by releasing details to Shams….which means it was dead in the water already. What is so complicated here?
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Re: Poll: would you trade JB for KD? 

Post#640 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Aug 4, 2022 12:48 am

sam_I_am wrote:
Slax wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
I think when a team is fielding 25 offers, it’s pretty standard to put in an offer to see what market is. I’m sure when Nets replied they wanted Smart, Williams, 3 picks and 2 swaps Brad did discuss with brain trust and they all moved on. If they really wanted KD, the initial offer would have been different. We’ll see ….

If what you're saying is that we offered Brown, Whote, and a draft pick as a little bit of a low ball and they came back with an unreasonable ask that we wouldn't go through with and if neither team budges from their current offers then obviously nothing gets done, then I agree.


I think it would be fireable offense if Celtics brass did not explore framework of a deal and then think about it. It’s either Horford and picks or JB + white or smart……that’s the only way to match salary. Celtics only offered 1 pick when the price was 3 + 2 swaps and then walked away. The Nets then tanked any chance of future negotiations by releasing details to Shams….which means it was dead in the water already. What is so complicated here?


The price is what the market dictates it is. You can ask for anything but if or when Durant accelerates his trade demand the nets will have to seriously negotiate and they’ll come right back to us.

The nets did not tank any chance of future negotiations with us.

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