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Game Thread – Celtics @ Wizards – Mon. 7:00PM, Oct. 30, 2023

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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Wizards – Mon. 7:00PM, Oct. 30, 2023 

Post#621 » by Curmudgeon » Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:56 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Lamar Stevens is a 28.5 percent career 3-point shooter.
You are not replacing Hauser with him


But Stevens does everything else that Hauser doesn't do. This team needs rebounding, not three point shooting.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Wizards – Mon. 7:00PM, Oct. 30, 2023 

Post#622 » by bucknersrevenge » Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:59 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Lamar Stevens is a 28.5 percent career 3-point shooter.
You are not replacing Hauser with him


Actually I'd replace Kornet with Stephens. Sure Lamar is listed as a wing but I think he can play some smallball 5. Certainly wouldn't have been overmatched last night against that team. There's nowhere near enough of a sample size for me to be worried about either PP or Hauser at this point. I couldn't be LESS worried about them right now. Plus, they're still contributing in other ways on the glass, defense, passing, etc. Kornet on the other hand is starting to concern me because I see him moving with less force than I did last year. Set better screens last year. Boxed out better. Don't see him doing the little things I saw last year. But again, I wouldn't mind seeing a little more Lamar Stephens.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Wizards – Mon. 7:00PM, Oct. 30, 2023 

Post#623 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:21 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Lamar Stevens is a 28.5 percent career 3-point shooter.
You are not replacing Hauser with him


But Stevens does everything else that Hauser doesn't do. This team needs rebounding, not three point shooting.


You have to have some 3-point shooting off the bench. How many teams have won a championship in the modern era
without a scorer/shooters off the bench?

Stevens is a Brisset or Kornet replacement; Hauser is a different cat. He might get yanked for Svi or someone better
before the Deadline or find himself.

I expect trades to occur.

A Big and some better version of a wing scorer perhaps.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Wizards – Mon. 7:00PM, Oct. 30, 2023 

Post#624 » by sam_I_am » Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:57 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Lamar Stevens is a 28.5 percent career 3-point shooter.
You are not replacing Hauser with him


But Stevens does everything else that Hauser doesn't do. This team needs rebounding, not three point shooting.


I completely agree but it would be nice to have 3 pt shooting too. I personally want to see Svi get burn. He is the only bench player with a track record of putting up 10 ppg (OKC and CHA). He can handle and play make too and his ability to finish above the rim is even better than Briasett and Stevens. He has looked better than Hauser at his best last year from his first minute in green. Not sure why Sam is getting the minutes given how badly Sam has played.

I do think we need to move on from Kornet and get some insurance behind Al and KP. We don’t really need a 3rd big unless those guys get hurt. Maybe Queta can be that guy. Theis would be perfect.

I also would consider the idea of a backup PG since JRue and White both start and agree with getting a vet like Delon Wright for example. I might even prefer to see what JD can do because PP and Banton have been a disaster. That said, PP deserves another 15-20 games to prove himself.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Wizards – Mon. 7:00PM, Oct. 30, 2023 

Post#625 » by shackles10 » Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:00 pm

My favorite random parts of the game in no particular order...

-The Brissett bench celebrations early on were top notch and not something you expect from a guy who gets actual minutes

-The mic catching Jrue saying "I got him. No problem" when he got switched onto Poole and then within seconds blocked him with... well just like he said, no problem.

- Scal actually wondering if he's ever seen 5 guys average 20 points or more all on the same team lol. I like Scal but come on man.

-The "el Fuego" jokes by Drew Carter haven't died yet.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Wizards – Mon. 7:00PM, Oct. 30, 2023 

Post#626 » by bucknersrevenge » Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:45 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Lamar Stevens is a 28.5 percent career 3-point shooter.
You are not replacing Hauser with him


But Stevens does everything else that Hauser doesn't do. This team needs rebounding, not three point shooting.


You have to have some 3-point shooting off the bench. How many teams have won a championship in the modern era
without a scorer/shooters off the bench?

Stevens is a Brisset or Kornet replacement; Hauser is a different cat. He might get yanked for Svi or someone better
before the Deadline or find himself.

I expect trades to occur.

A Big and some better version of a wing scorer perhaps.


How many had this good a starting 5? Here's the thing. Shooters are like goaltenders in hockey. They can get hot for a stretch and at the right time carry you right through the playoffs. Worry if we get to the playoffs if not the deadline and they're still shooting this bad. Until, we have a ton of shooting in our starting lineup. Even then, I wouldn't worry that much. If the Top 6 guys shoot, I can guarantee that the rest won't matter in the playoffs.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Wizards – Mon. 7:00PM, Oct. 30, 2023 

Post#627 » by bucknersrevenge » Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:48 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Lamar Stevens is a 28.5 percent career 3-point shooter.
You are not replacing Hauser with him


But Stevens does everything else that Hauser doesn't do. This team needs rebounding, not three point shooting.


I actually agree here. If our Top 7 was the first 6 guys and Lamar Stephens off the bench for defense by the time we hit the playoffs I feel pretty certain we'd have enough shooting and it wouldn't matter how the 8th guy was shooting.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Wizards – Mon. 7:00PM, Oct. 30, 2023 

Post#628 » by KamikazeK » Wed Nov 1, 2023 7:38 pm

KamikazeK wrote:I hope Poole gets embarrassed tonight.

Couldn't have asked for a better result. :wink:

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Post#629 » by threrf23 » Wed Nov 1, 2023 8:01 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Lamar Stevens is a 28.5 percent career 3-point shooter.
You are not replacing Hauser with him


But Stevens does everything else that Hauser doesn't do. This team needs rebounding, not three point shooting.


Hauser = 5.9 rebounds per 36 on his career, Stevens = 6.4 rebounds per 36.

Our defense was 3.2 points better (per 100) lastseason with Hauser on the floor vs the bench. Only DWhite & Timelord logged a better defensive +/-.

Cavs' defense was 3.6 points worse last year with Stevens on the floor vs the bench. Nobody in the Cavs' rotation logged a worse defensive +/-.
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Re: Game Thread – Celtics @ Wizards – Mon. 7:00PM, Oct. 30, 2023 

Post#630 » by Larry_Russell » Thu Nov 2, 2023 12:09 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Lamar Stevens is a 28.5 percent career 3-point shooter.
You are not replacing Hauser with him


But Stevens does everything else that Hauser doesn't do. This team needs rebounding, not three point shooting.


You have to have some 3-point shooting off the bench. How many teams have won a championship in the modern era
without a scorer/shooters off the bench?

Stevens is a Brisset or Kornet replacement; Hauser is a different cat. He might get yanked for Svi or someone better
before the Deadline or find himself.

I expect trades to occur.

A Big and some better version of a wing scorer perhaps.


I see Lamar as being able to realistically play 2-5 on the floor.
No reason 3 of Pritch, Hauser and Stevens cannot be on the floot at the same time.

And if Stevens keeps working on his shot (doesnt seem unreasonable with this team - Tatum. Brown, Jrue, White, Pritch, Hauser, Horf, KP all great shooter to help coach) if he is even at around 33-35% by end of season that is a VERY valuable player.

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